raced a TC SCION lst night....huh ?

well, sir........how would i know that since this was my very first posts?



Seriously, no one hates you here. Yes we've all had our little run in's with other people on the interstate, but running home and posting it is another story. I would expect this on some "other" forum that I won't mention, but it just does'nt go over to well here. Thats all. :smile:
 
of course street racing is not a good idea. that i honestly agree......
but it was just one of those times when im finally getting used to the car since i just recently acquired it last july. i drive the car once a month. like i said before, i dont race at all on public streets. heck, when i was younger in mid 20's, yeah.......you can count that when we us kids used to drive bunch of hondas, toyota's....etc. i know the nsx is very luxury car and that's one of the reasons i got it. but insulting me for just having a fun time deal is a no no to me. are you saying you never race anyone on the streets before with your car? if not, then that's your decision. you do hate my guts and i can tell. :biggrin:

now you think you're tougher than me now by saying these things to me?
i dont think so my brother. you dont provide food on my table, you dont pay for my bills, mortgage, you didnt pay for my nsx...so, what makes you better person than i am? oh i know.........cuz i am being immature for having a little bit of fun. crucify me !

Wait. I don't "hate your guts" - your immaturity is showing again. :wink:

I'm not a moderator here. Prime doesn't require the constant babysitting that is required on other forums you may be accustomed to. The members here do a pretty good job of keeping things in line. I just agree w/ most of the Prime members that street racing is not a good idea. You could hurt yourself and others.

Here are two life rules that most people don't realize: 1. "you are not as smart as you think you are" and 2. "you are not as tough as you think you are".
 
now you think you're tougher than me now by saying these things to me?
i dont think so my brother. you dont provide food on my table, you dont pay for my bills, mortgage, you didnt pay for my nsx...so, what makes you better person than i am? oh i know.........cuz i am being immature for having a little bit of fun. crucify me !

Listen, I'm sure you are a good guy. Nobody is trying to "crucify" you (few people are important enough to be "crucified"). Many just feel that your street racing is NOT a good idea and would rather not see you hurt yourself or others. You may have misinterpreted my post. I wasn't talking about you specifically. I was trying to hint at the fact that being humble isn't a bad thing.


How is putting others in danger fun?

Maturity requires you to think of others and to think a couple of steps ahead w/ your actions.
 
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I think it's time to close this thread.:cool:
+1, and if you read some of the recent posts, a member in Florida, a solid contributor to our community just lost his son, who was uninvolved in the event, who was actually travelling in the opposite direction in a street racing contest. If you must participate, speak about it on other forums if you must, not here. Let's lock this down.
 
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This thread wasn't going to accomplish anything positive from the moment it was created.:frown:

it doesn't help that this guy was attacked from the get-go. he wasn't posting a "check it out, i beat this car" thread; he was surprised that the damn Tc kept up :confused: say whatever you want, but i had a similar experience. (and please don't tell me you're going to school me on how to drive.... :rolleyes: ) maybe the car was modified, maybe it wasn't- but i was surprised too.

in any case, he's not arguing with you guys that streetracing isn't bad. he simply posted something that surprised him. stop making such a big deal out of the whole thing, and immediately the thread stops being heated. jeez.

again, can somebody please explain to me why this is a no-no, and doing 190mph on the autobahn isn't? :rolleyes: hypocrites.
 
Listen, I'm sure you are a good guy. Nobody is trying to "crucify" you (few people are important enough to be "crucified"). Many just feel that your street racing is NOT a good idea and would rather not see you hurt yourself or others. You may have misinterpreted my post. I wasn't talking about you specifically. I was trying to hint at the fact that being humble isn't a bad thing.


How is putting others in danger fun?

Maturity requires you to think of others and to think a couple of steps ahead w/ your actions.

you don't have to be important to be crucified. (and even if you did have to be "important enough", how do you know he's not? :wink: )
 
again, can somebody please explain to me why this is a no-no, and doing 190mph on the autobahn isn't? :rolleyes: hypocrites.

I'll take a stab at it....the autobahn permits high speed runs and there are special rules for the drivers to comply with when performing high speed runs to optimize safety concerns for other drivers, whereas on highways, streets (in the U.S.), high speed runs in excess of the designated speed limit are not, nor are special rules in place to optimize safety concerns for these type of runs. Although, I do see your logic in comparing the two....there are some distinguishing differences that makes one socially acceptable while not of the other.
 
quick wiki search about the laws on the autobahn related to high speed runs and laws in place to optimize safety...., which are clearly not in place in the United States.

The right lane must be used when it is free, (Rechtsfahrgebot) and the left lane is generally intended for passing maneuvers only. Drivers using the left lane when the other lanes are free may be fined by autobahn police.
Overtaking on the right (Undertaking) is forbidden, except in traffic jams where it may be practiced with caution. The fact that the car overtaken is illegally occupying the left-hand lane is not an acceptable excuse. In these cases the police will routinely stop and fine both drivers.
Not allowing faster cars to overtake one's own car if the traffic situation allows it (eg. by occupying the left-hand lane for a longer period of time) may be considered coercion[6].
 
I'll take a stab at it....the autobahn permits high speed runs and there are special rules for the drivers to comply with when performing high speed runs to optimize safety concerns for other drivers, whereas on highways, streets (in the U.S.), high speed runs in excess of the designated speed limit are not, nor are special rules in place to optimize safety concerns for these type of runs. Although, I do see your logic in comparing the two....there are some distinguishing differences that makes one socially acceptable while not of the other.

only difference is it being socially acceptable over there :wink:
so, to these people, it should be "wrong" over there too. let's see what they have to say..... why they didn't get on the other guy's case. :tongue:

personally, i think everybody is capable of doing "dangerous" things responsibly.

and i also believe this guy wouldn't have got half the flak if it were a better "kill".
 
quick wiki search about the laws on the autobahn related to high speed runs and laws in place to optimize safety...., which are clearly not in place in the United States.

The right lane must be used when it is free, (Rechtsfahrgebot) and the left lane is generally intended for passing maneuvers only. Drivers using the left lane when the other lanes are free may be fined by autobahn police.
Overtaking on the right (Undertaking) is forbidden, except in traffic jams where it may be practiced with caution. The fact that the car overtaken is illegally occupying the left-hand lane is not an acceptable excuse. In these cases the police will routinely stop and fine both drivers.
Not allowing faster cars to overtake one's own car if the traffic situation allows it (eg. by occupying the left-hand lane for a longer period of time) may be considered coercion[6].

all of these laws are in place in the US as well. (well, i know for certain in NY they are....i've even heard of somebody in alabama getting a ticket for not staying to the right.... but looking at the way they NEVER MOVE OVER down here you wouldn't think it was a law :wink: )
 
Hey Sokudo88,

Don't sweat it. To be honest with you, I believe it is probably NOT wise race everyone who tempts you. Don't listen to some of these guys that preach as though they've never pressed down on the accelerator a bit harder than usual when someone is toying with them for fun.

:biggrin:

Some guys have NEVER pressed down on the accelerator. I took a guys NSX for a test drive a few years ago. After warming up I accelerated from 0-60 in about 6 - 6.5 seconds. He said "WOW - I have never been that fast! That was so fast." The car was never taken above 6500 rpm. Some people buy the NSX for a weekend toy that they can park in front of the country club to brag about how great it looks oem style.
 
Some people buy the NSX for a weekend toy that they can park in front of the country club to brag about how great it looks oem style.

Wow, and I thought it was all about driving a quarter mile at a time, racing scions, corrolla's, tiburons, street light to street light....geesh get a clue!:rolleyes:
 
again, can somebody please explain to me why this is a no-no, and doing 190mph on the autobahn isn't? hypocrites.

Context and implicit agreement is what makes the rule of law. It is not about the speed.

Everybody who is on the autobahn is there by choice, know what the rules are and can avoid it if they do not agree.

Nobody in the USA would reasonably expect insane driving on a 65 mph zone under ANY circumstances. They did not agree to it, likely do not want such speeds, are not expecting it and the roads are also not engineered for it. Making it all very unsafe and unreasonable.

Might as well ask:

Why can you exceed the speed limit on a race track, but not the public road that is 50 feet away?

Why can you be naked in a gym shower, but not 4 inches on the other side of the wall in the main workout room?

Customs, context and the stated rules.

**

The positive benefit of this thread is to pound down on people who think street racing is cool or even acceptable. We moderate ourselves.

The police only show up after the damage or stupid behavior is done, we are trying to prevent it.

Drew
 
Context and implicit agreement is what makes the rule of law. It is not about the speed.

Everybody who is on the autobahn is there by choice, know what the rules are and can avoid it if they do not agree.

Nobody in the USA would reasonably expect insane driving on a 65 mph zone under ANY circumstances. They did not agree to it, likely do not want such speeds, are not expecting it and the roads are also not engineered for it. Making it all very unsafe and unreasonable.

Might as well ask:

Why can you exceed the speed limit on a race track, but not the public road that is 50 feet away?

Why can you be naked in a gym shower, but not 4 inches on the other side of the wall in the main workout room?

Customs, context and the stated rules.

**

The positive benefit of this thread is to pound down on people who think street racing is cool or even acceptable. We moderate ourselves.

The police only show up after the damage or stupid behavior is done, we are trying to prevent it.

Drew

still.... it is unsafe and no different. nobody on the autobahn that is travelling at normal speed wants or deserves a 200mph car up their ass.

people also don't "sign up" for douchebags that do 100 different things while driving, except looking at the road. or drunk drivers. it's just there, and you have to look out for it.

i'm just saying - you can still do stupid things responsibly. if you have the sense to at least do the stupid things without bringing others into it, then i'd say you have a 1-up on most people
 
still.... it is unsafe and no different. nobody on the autobahn that is travelling at normal speed wants or deserves a 200mph car up their ass.

people also don't "sign up" for douchebags that do 100 different things while driving, except looking at the road. or drunk drivers. it's just there, and you have to look out for it.

i'm just saying - you can still do stupid things responsibly. if you have the sense to at least do the stupid things without bringing others into it, then i'd say you have a 1-up on most people

So one can responsibly drive drunk then? Yep, I see the logic.

It is not about the safety of the person involved, it is about the wishes and safety of the persons that do not wish to be involved.

Try this logic:
If you want to drive around like crazy: go to a track, drive 200 MPH all you want with other people that want to THERE be with you.

If you want to walk around naked everywhere, go to a nudist colony.

Want to beat people up, don't go down the street swinging away. Join a boxing gym and beat the crap out of anybody who gets in the ring with you.

You get the idea: There are places to do darn there everything you want to do, just find the right time, place and you are good to go.

Drew
 
This is where the fun is............. Even if your the passenger!

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So one can responsibly drive drunk then? Yep, I see the logic.

It is not about the safety of the person involved, it is about the wishes and safety of the persons that do not wish to be involved.

Try this logic:
If you want to drive around like crazy: go to a track, drive 200 MPH all you want with other people that want to THERE be with you.

If you want to walk around naked everywhere, go to a nudist colony.

Want to beat people up, don't go down the street swinging away. Join a boxing gym and beat the crap out of anybody who gets in the ring with you.

You get the idea: There are places to do darn there everything you want to do, just find the right time, place and you are good to go.

Drew

i was referring to drunk driving as one of those things that people do without consideration for others.

as for speeding.... you could speed with people who like to speed (thereby putting only yourself and the people who like to speed in danger....) OR you could speed when nobody is there.... (ie, nobody on the freeway)
 
"thank you all for your suggestions, i'll reconcider my actions next time i decide to street race" :P

i'll never post anything like this again. gee, my first post i get bashed.
it's all good. :cool:
 
Live and learn...........however if you want a place where street racing stories are accepted and even encouraged try sromagazine.com
 
live and learned? i've been racing since i was 21 yrs old buddy !

i guess this forum does not accept street racing experiences.......

someone could have told me that from the very beginning so that it wouldn't
have been 3 pages long of back and forth replies from everyone.

Live and learn...........however if you want a place where street racing stories are accepted and even encouraged try sromagazine.com
 
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live and learned? i've been racing since i was 21 yrs old buddy !
and yes, i learned a lot. i learned a lot from everyone's comments and reactions here on this thread, even their characters.
see you guys around.......espclly socal people!

peace......:wink:

haha n00b says he "raced" a tc.... why isnt this thread locked yet? :-P


you probably didnt race a tc. you probably just need someone to help show you how to drive your NSX properly.

on street or on track, makes no difference to me - people will do what they want to do. just do yourself and us all a favor, dont race. its irresponsible...................... (to lose to a scion tc) heh
 
noob? let's give it a try who's a noob around here...

do you have proof it wasnt a scion that i raced that night? no....

did i lose to that scion i raced?....no....

oh wait, i think i was racing a lambo and smoked him real bad.......geez!!

and espclly, i dont need anyone to show me how to drive car....
im still learning, comprende? hello? anybody home? i just got the car not
too long ago? and dont be telling me not to race, i can do what ever i want
with my car. it's like i would tell you 'dont drive below 60mph pls"......

people, i realized this forum is quite restricted for some topics like this one i posted. i didnt expect all the bashing and stuff from most of you but hey, that's how who you are, right ? instead of saying negative things about me and my car, i would have expected more advice from you, like saying 'dont race on the streets'....that, i can accept. but for someone who say negative things about me, then that's another story because you guys dont know me.
im a newbie, remember?

like i said before, i'll see you guys around...maybe on the streets? :wink:

mr. moderator, pls close this thread already before someone here has a heart attack....:biggrin:

haha n00b says he "raced" a tc.... why isnt this thread locked yet? :-P


you probably didnt race a tc. you probably just need someone to help show you how to drive your NSX properly.

on street or on track, makes no difference to me - people will do what they want to do. just do yourself and us all a favor, dont race. its irresponsible...................... (to lose to a scion tc) heh
 
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