Wow, now here's a thread I can really sink my teeth into.....where have I been to miss this thread??? Geez, must be slipping. (as I crack my knuckles):biggrin:
Porsches - I've owned 3 (83 SC, 87 Turbo Look cabrio, 96 -993 coupe) and some of them are cheap to maintain - they really are - for example once an SC (78 to 83) is sorted it's a great car and the 3.2 Carrera is even better still. They all have issues though - everyone of them. The 964 -mmmmm- don't know which model you have but no one runs around replacing engines in the 3.0 or 3.2 - all of them are rebuildable - untill you get to the water coolers - 996 that is - the 997 was better and not all have problems - just depends on if you feel lucky - I didn't. You don't rebuild the 996/997 you replace them for about 15k to 18k. Didn't like my odds even though there is only a 5 to 10% failure rate. I knew it would be me.
The 964 - I did a lot of research on them - if you have a late 93 or 94 - with the air tube add on to the dual distributer - you might actually have a good car and one that is fairly maintenance free. If you have an early one - well the issues with the 89 1/2 thru the 92 are certainly well documented in the Used 911 Story. I won't go into all of the ills of that car. By the way it has 250 hp and isn't as fast as the NSX....but that's not really the big issue. The biggest issue I had with the air coolers and I love 911s so don't get me wrong - they are really great cars - I wish I had tons of cash and in my dream garrage would be several 911s and the Carrera GT. But comparing a 964's reliability to an NSX is strange. You could have hit the purchase just right and if you hit the NSX purchase just right you'd have the same 3 year experience of low maintenance too!
There are trade offs but if there's a problem with the 964 - and there will be eventually - it will be a technical difficulty based on design - that you won't find in the NSX. Every model 911 has an "Achilles heel" - everyone - whether it's the CIS in the SC or the cam chain tensioners or the 915 sensitive tranny in the SC, the valve guide replacement in the 3.2 Carrera at around 100k to 125k or the dreaded carbon build up issue in the 993 or the cylinder head seal issue in the 964 or the dual mass flywheel issue or the dual distributer belt issue in the 964 or the RMS issue with the 996 and lay shaft bearing issue....whew.... it goes on - but still not all have the problems - that's damn nice - but with the NSX there just aren't any technical design problems that cause expensive repairs not on any of them. So really there are no "Achilles heels" with the NSX. That has got to be comforting - I know it was for me. Geeeeeezzz was it ever. Wouldn't you just love to buy a 996 C4S and have tire wear issues front and back - or worse still a blown engine due to a lay shaft bearing failure.....little 15 to 18k wake up call.
I could go on - but I've gone on way too long. In closing ...lol, what you have to understand about the NSX is what the maintenance issues are. How to buy one "right" - what to look for and whether you do the maintenance becuase it was deffered - like I would almost bet you're racking up in the 964 (just a guess on my part) - which you factor into the price if you're smart or you buy one that has the maintenance done - nice but not always possible. Point is that you are right about one thing - in many ways the NSX is more expensive model year to model year because when 911s get old everyone knows that "Peter will have to be paid" eventually and no one really wants to get stuck with a 20k engine build and then how bout a 915 tranny build - all depending on model. No one wants a 993 or 964 engine build on their hands and anyone that's ever had one knows that! So many ride the "horse" till it's about to drop! So the purchase price is just a piece of the story isn't it!
The NSX is piece of mind - knowing that when the maintenance is up to speed that it will be virtually maintenance free other than fluid/filter changes for a long time. And you won't be watching the engine temp gauge when your stuck in traffic - YOU know what I mean there. You won't have to worry about taking your NSX on short hops either.
Pluses and minuses - Porshce has storage - more than the NSX - but the NSX is adequate as long as your not taking a cross country tour as a golfer with your companion golfer buddy. The only short coming I've found so far! The NSX doesn't depreciate as fast - for 2 reasons I believe - one is that they will run strong for 400k miles without an engine build and so there's no sense of buying the "hot" potatoe - the other is rarity - not as many of them. They aren't for everyone - you have to have money for repairs - you wouldn't be wise to buy any of these cars with LONG term ownership in mind with only the purchase price in hand.....hell no! Some don't understand that. Take mine for instance - I bought one that needed some maintenance items addressed - now they are addressed - and now I don't forsee any major maintenance issues necessary for many years. That's the beauty of the NSX - they are just regularly scheduled maintenance needs - not the chance of some heinous technical malfunction due to some problematice design reaching up and biting your ass!
So be aware, buy wisely, have enough funds to do what needs to be done and drive on with a big fat chesire cat grin on your face! It's an awesome performer and will stack up against any sports car in it's price range nicely. :wink:
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PS: ya'll know that NSX1 was ribbing the thread with his "I hate the NSX" comment don't you - I mean even I got it......wow we are getting sensitive aren't we.....lol.