New XXR 527

[Friedhouse]

My regular offset on my rear wheels are +38. I put some +20 spacers on from my TL to get an idea of what it would look like. So +18 offest with 265/35/18

I think if I was a little bit lower, and had some 255/35/18 tires, most of the tire wall would be tucking in that fender wall. I still think the 9.75 +20 is doable with a 255 width tire and would turn out to be a great looking show wheel.

 

[Hapa88]

^^^So those are essentially 18x9.5 +18 with a 265/35/18 tire, correct?

So the 18x9.75 +20 wheel will stick out an additional 1mm from those pictures. :smile:

 

[RYU]

It will stick out 7MM more than the picture - REMEMBER - his car in the pic is totally slammed.

Will someone pull the trigger already...

not according to this http://www.1010tires.com/wheeloffsetcalculator.asp

 

[RYU]

^^^So those are essentially 18x9.5 +18 with a 265/35/18 tire, correct?

So the 18x9.75 +20 wheel will stick out an additional 1mm from those pictures. :smile:

If lowered another ~1" it just *might* tuck but i'm not confident enough to buy them outright. Still waiting on my friend to come through for a test fit... though i'm not holding my breath :tongue:

 

[Friedhouse]

^^^So those are essentially 18x9.5 +18 with a 265/35/18 tire, correct?

So the 18x9.75 +20 wheel will stick out an additional 1mm from those pictures. :smile:

Also keep in mind the tire stretch of a 255 vs 265, the 255 will look much better.

 

[angus]

not according to this http://www.1010tires.com/wheeloffsetcalculator.asp

OOPs - It's 2mm NOT 7MM

Thanks for catching that...

 

[angus]

Also keep in mind the tire stretch of a 255 vs 265, the 255 will look much better.

In order to get enough stretch to make a difference on the 9.75" rim, you'd probably need a 235-245 tire...

YES - more lowering will also pull them in - but how much lower and how much will they come in?

 

[DRIFTER]

Anyone order these wheels? What sizes are people going with? Pictures?

 

[d.n]

They're still on backorder from NL Motoring for a few weeks at best. I'm not sure if other vendors have them in, but I don't think so

 

[Friedhouse]

Ya they aren't offically released as of yet, so people are just doing pre-orders.

 

[RYU]

if all goes to schedule, I will be test fitting the rears on Monday.

18x9.75+20

 

[Friedhouse]

if all goes to schedule, I will be test fitting the rears on Monday.

18x9.75+20

What size tires will you be trying?

 

[d.n]

Be sure to post pics!!

 

[angus]

if all goes to schedule, I will be test fitting the rears on Monday.

18x9.75+20

I'm sure they will tuck right in

 

[RYU]

What size tires will you be trying?

I'll find out on Monday. The gentleman who owns the Evo the prototypes are on (see first pic) is an old friend of mine. So i'm meeting him for lunch first and if time permits do a quick wheel swap.

I'm sure they will tuck right in

Well, these are suppose to stick out +4mm from my current setup and if I had these i'd run a 215/255 set tires... I'm 50/50 on them working. Maybe we should put $ on this to make it interesting. lol

 

[Alittleboost]

Yeah pictures for sure please...side profile and all!


Thanks.

 

[angus]

Well, these are suppose to stick out +4mm from my current setup and if I had these i'd run a 215/255 set tires... I'm 50/50 on them working. Maybe we should put $ on this to make it interesting. lol

I think it'll work if you do enough stretch but don't know if 255 will do it - not much of a stretch there (depending on which 255)

If you wanna list the tire and size - I might just have to throw down!!!

 

[Friedhouse]

Well, these are suppose to stick out +4mm from my current setup and if I had these i'd run a 215/255 set tires... I'm 50/50 on them working. Maybe we should put $ on this to make it interesting. lol

I think it'll work if you do enough stretch but don't know if 255 will do it - not much of a stretch there (depending on which 255)

If you wanna list the tire and size - I might just have to throw down!!!

Awwwww snap, It's on! :tongue:

 

[angus]

OK If the car is low enough they will fit - I have 19x10.5 +27 and the 18x9.75 +20 will sit in about 3mm -

Now for the interesting part...

I have stoptech BBK that adds 5mm to the wheel pad - this means the XXR will actually sit 8mm in from my setup - as long as the tire has a bit of stretch and the car is low -

It'll work.


What I have tried to explain before and don't think some people understand is that regardless of the width of the rim (within reason) the offset of the wheel and the width of the tire are the key factors

i.e.

An 11" wheel with a 265 tire will have about the same fender clearance as a 9" wheel with a 265 tire AS LONG AS THE OFFSET IS THE SAME.

So here is the thing - if you have a 10" +27 now - then the 9.75 +20 will place the tire 7mm out from where it is now - hence you will need a tire that is about 14mm narrower (7mm each side) to achieve the same clearance.

Hope that makes sense.

 

[RYU]

OK If the car is low enough they will fit - I have 19x10.5 +27 and the 18x9.75 +20 will sit in about 3mm -

Now for the interesting part...

I have stoptech BBK that adds 5mm to the wheel pad - this means the XXR will actually sit 8mm in from my setup - as long as the tire has a bit of stretch and the car is low -

It'll work.


What I have tried to explain before and don't think some people understand is that regardless of the width of the rim (within reason) the offset of the wheel and the width of the tire are the key factors

i.e.

An 11" wheel with a 265 tire will have about the same fender clearance as a 9" wheel with a 265 tire AS LONG AS THE OFFSET IS THE SAME.

So here is the thing - if you have a 10" +27 now - then the 9.75 +20 will place the tire 7mm out from where it is now - hence you will need a tire that is about 14mm narrower (7mm each side) to achieve the same clearance.

Hope that makes sense.

Most of what you wrote except the part in red makes sense so i'm inclined to think you mistyped it? The offset is relative to the center point of the wheel. Hence, different width wheels with the same offset will have different fender clearance gap. Perhaps you were thinking about backspacing? In any event, the difference is in the millimeters and sometimes +3-5mm is not material. It's not like we're talking about wheel to brake caliper clearances where 3mm can sometimes be the difference between it working or not.

I do agree with your logic about the tire but I don't know tires as well as you guys do and it actually really bugs me that a 255 from manufacturer A can sometimes be considered "thinner" than a 255 from manufacturer B.

I also do agree that these will fit as oppose to how I thought you felt earlier in this thread (I was ready to throw down a whopping $5 on the table!). However, i'm personally not willing to run a tire that's thinner than a 255 for the rear of my NSX. Anything less would mean a compromise in form vs. function i'm simply not willing to partake in with a car as special as ours. I'm really hoping a 255 will fit w/o rubbing but again i'm only 50/50 on it which is why i'm going thru the trouble of test fitting. BTW...I don't know what tires are on the Evo

We'll see how it goes tomorrow. Even if these wheels won't work for me they may still work for someone else who wants to run a 245 or 235 back there.

 

[angus]

OK - so I think maybe you miss out on what I mean -

What I was trying to descride is a huge part of the basis for the stretch tire movement -

Get the biggest, widest rim on the car and minimize rubbing.

so as I said,

- a 9" +35 rim with a 265 (tire hangs over) will have the tire as the closest part to the fender

- an 11" +35 rim (BTW this is equivalent to what is on my car right now) with a 265 (tire is stretched) will have the rim as the closest part to the fender

BUT THEY WILL BOTH HAVE ABOUT THE SAME OVERALL CLEARANCE

NOW - while the tire stretch will pull the tire outwards to some extent - it will not affect the tread width, which is the first part to potentially hit the fender - in a stretch fitment.

I have done these fitments on various cars so many times, and I hope I am explaining it so you can see what I mean.

As for the tires.

You seem to understand that there are tires from different brands that are wider or narrower in tha same size - Good.

I once had Michelin PP2 (pilot premacy 2) 265/30/19 and they were a good deal so I bought 4 - well I mounted them on a 9.5 wheel and they were super stretched - then I put them up to a pair of 245/35/19 PS2's and guess what - they were not even as wide as the 245's...

So when a person tells me "I won't run less than a 255 on my car" I always think of that time -

I guess it comes down to the numbers printed on the sidewall and how that makes you feel.

You can easily find 245's that are wider than some 255's and vice versa...

Now if you mean " I won't run a tire that "measures" less than 255 - well ok then!

BTW - I have driven a few NSX's with 245 r-comps that had unreal grip - I didn't like the looks - but just saying!

 

[RYU]

I'm very happy with the fitment. Need hubcentric rings machined but otherwise I've got a set coming for the NSX...

Tires FWIW: 265/35 Nexen N7000

 

[dablackgoku1234]

^^ 18x9.75 +20?

 

[RYU]

^^ 18x9.75 +20?

yes sir

 

[dablackgoku1234]

How much are you dropped and whats your rear camber specs?