FastraxTurbo said:
I was there and know that no Nitrous was used, because I was sitting in the corner with the bottle inhaling it.:biggrin:
Is someone feeding Lowellhigh words? as I can usually smell people who dont really know what they are talking about.
It only takes common sense, acute observation and some critical thinking, so no one is feeding me words and I do know what I'm talking about. A quick search will show that FX started out using NOS fairly early on to overcome lag. Most of their runs, except the 757 run (dyno provided) and the 605 run (in public) are the only two I can think of that did not involve NOS. Their current FX 500 uses NOS "to chase down those pesky Supras" and the 813 run did as well. I have nothing against using NOS or what FX has done (they should be congratulated), I'm only pointing out to the community, specific information that can help differentiate the relative performance value of the various platforms.
For example, lets use the Cartech system, which this community knows much about. What if all that the community knew about the Cartech was based on a few runs that utilized NOS, but the NOS was specifically denied. This plot would have awesome numbers down low, and some pretty damn good numbers up high, all on low amounts of boost. Is the community served well by this deliberate denial?
Fastrax Turbo, what do you make of the dyno plot for MiamieNeSeX?
117 whp/310 ft lbs @ 2080 (no boost)
178 whp/338 ft-lbs @ 2800 (0.5 psi)
255 whp/360 ft-lbs @ 3700 (2.2 psi)
357 whp/400 ft-lbs @ 4600 (3.0 psi)
Notice I'm only looking at the zero to very low boost levels as once on boost, anyone can hide a shot of NOS. Notice too that I questioned if some "additional oxygen supplementation" was utilized.
Notice also that the 757 FX run produced:
95 hp/199 ft-lbs @ 2500
225 hp/300 ft-lbs @ 4000
The hp curve rises similarly thereafter, but MY observation is there is more lag in the FX plot. MiamieNeSeX makes more torque at 2000 rpm on NO boost than the FX does after 4000 rpm on some boost? USE your critical thinking here. Further acute observation of the FX 757 will reveal that the plot states SAE correction method and Flywheel HP and Flywheel torque. Am I the only one who saw that? Did I miss the explanation for that?
This is not an attempt to discredit anyone nor is this under the direction of someone else. I simply desire intellectual honesty and consistency and some skepticism SHOULD always be utilized. Our 677 rwhp/466 ft-lbs @ 7600 run at K&N for the Sport Compact Car USCC was in public and I will be the first to admit that our numbers down low were not that great:
75 whp/160 ft-lbs @ 2500
150whp/175 ft-lbs @ 4000
No NOS, 100 unleaded, 15 psi below 7000, 17 psi above 7000
If you can honestly explain BIG V8 or even V10 like torque down low without boost from a 3.0 liter V6 with methanol, let us all know.
Best Regards,
Danny