All the news received thus far says "YES!"
Factory 2013 NSX info sent to dealers
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All the news received thus far says "YES!"
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If this car will make 450-500hp it should have 295 (min.) the rears being the exotic it is. But if you think about it, this is Honda so it suddenly makes sence. They always use thinner tires/smaller wheels (except the S2000 AP2, they really surprised me with 245, rears in a 2L/240Hp car). When the NSX debuted it had a conservative 225 (rears), the 348 used 255.
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From the middle to the back the HSC is not that great at all, imo.
From which angle? Looking from the front or back? Maybe a picture?
From the middle to the back the HSC is not that great at all, imo.
Do you mean this from angle?
From the middle to the back the HSC is not that great at all, imo.
I will find that more people will agree with BATMANs that the HSC is the BEST looking NSX replacement there is. It's not perfect, but the best and most threatening to the existing NSX resell prices.
If honda just playing an Ashton Kutcher-style punk and does release the HSC-style NSX then those that spent $$$ on the later model NSX like the frog-eyed 02+ are going to be in for a world of hurt on resell value.
IMHO, I'm going to say that the C30A 5-speeds will hold their value better since they are the stronger and cheaper of the 2 power plants for the forced induction solutions, which would be the ONLY way to show any value in the face of the HSC.
Hi, what members feelings about creating this new concept as a kit that would replace and bolt over the existing NSX as proposed by an NSX owner in the following thread?
http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/consumer-opinions/14992-design-ideas.html
Im trying to piece together a similar design in 3D.
Arash
http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/consumer-opinions/14992-design-ideas.html
Im trying to piece together a similar design in 3D.
Arash
I would rather have:
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by a lot. And as for resale value of 02+, I wouldn't worry about it in the least. The new car will not be cheap enough to threaten existing prices, and considering there are only about 1000 of them in the US, their rarity is enough for their prices to remain stable. I suspect a number of people will initially trade in for the newer car making used sale numbers weird at first, but that will flatten out quickly.
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by a lot. And as for resale value of 02+, I wouldn't worry about it in the least. The new car will not be cheap enough to threaten existing prices, and considering there are only about 1000 of them in the US, their rarity is enough for their prices to remain stable. I suspect a number of people will initially trade in for the newer car making used sale numbers weird at first, but that will flatten out quickly.
Hey Bats what do you mean the HSC style NSX??
As the 02+ come down the NA1 ones will drop as many will take advantage of the lower 02+ prices and sell their inferior aluminum butter knife 91-01 ( :wink: ) to get a newer model. We'll get a flood of S2K guys who will pick up the lower priced NA1's . Of course Civic Si guys will then get into those S2K's.
Price will be the biggest determining factor. People keep saying that this car will be over $100k but I think they're ignoring what's priced at that level i.e ZR1 , GTR and V8 R8. Honda will be working hard to match any of those cars performance wise with the V6 so again I'm still seeing this car at the $90-100k range. At that price there will be a quite a few 02+ trade ins. Above that not so much.
I am thinking the opposite way. This new car has to be in $150K range ( I want it to be in that range) and limited production. Within the price range of $150K, the NA1 and NA2 will not drop dramatically. 1. Not many people can afford it with $150K price tag and will keep their NSX's , therefore there will not be a flood of NSX's for sale. 2. High price and limited production will be worthwhile to own one. Otherwise it will be just another vette.
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+ 1. listen to this man. I think the hsc looks worse than the avengers car and the car below. Honda knew it. That is why they didn't make it 
We are a funny bunch. We were complaining that why Honda didn't make a new Nsx, and now looks like they are going to do it, we are worried that our current nsx value will go down. Of course it will but not by much, I dont think. How many people here can plunk down 100k for a new nsx now? My guess is not too many. It's sure as hell it ain't me!!
We are a funny bunch. We were complaining that why Honda didn't make a new Nsx, and now looks like they are going to do it, we are worried that our current nsx value will go down. Of course it will but not by much, I dont think. How many people here can plunk down 100k for a new nsx now? My guess is not too many. It's sure as hell it ain't me!!
I would rather have:
than:
by a lot. And as for resale value of 02+, I wouldn't worry about it in the least. The new car will not be cheap enough to threaten existing prices, and considering there are only about 1000 of them in the US, their rarity is enough for their prices to remain stable. I suspect a number of people will initially trade in for the newer car making used sale numbers weird at first, but that will flatten out quickly.
Wingz, I don't think the 02+ will change price that much as there are not many of them out there. They will still hover in the $50K area for a clean one and that's still a lot of money for a used car to the average Joe. I dont think the market will change much at all or at least not as extreme as you are envisioning. Sure a few will traverse the upgrade path you envision, but it will be based in the individual's income and not so much the market changing. If anything, people who cannot afford $100K for the new car, but is hype about the buzz, will compensate and pay half or 1/3 of that for clean used NSX.
It's up to all of the NSX owners anyways. Take care of and cherish your 20 year old cars(the majority) and sell them for a high price. NSX volume is small enough for us to control it.
It's up to all of the NSX owners anyways. Take care of and cherish your 20 year old cars(the majority) and sell them for a high price. NSX volume is small enough for us to control it.
I understand some of you want it to be $140k+ but even with limited production theres nothing that would make this car that high. Aluminum body isn't justification enough neither are the electric motors as Honda is cost sharing those with other models. There's just as much into the V8 R8 and the GTR and ZR1. Nissan is using turbos vs batteries and GM and Audi are using displacement vs batteries.
Don't get me wrong I want the car but there's nothing to it to command z premium vs the other cars I've mentioned. I mean an extra $40k to save on gas?? I'm all about good fuel economy but please!
Oh I don't think it will be that drastic but it will go into $30-40k range as it will have to to sell. Once people trade in then you have to deal with what people will be willing to pay them ( market value ) so then how much will Na1 buyers be willing to pay to get newer with less miles then how much will someone be willing to pay for an older car with more miles.
Price of the new car will be the biggest determining factor
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Hi all,
is this the new nsx in camouflage because it is featured in the picture in the autoblog? thx
Hi all,
is this the new nsx in camouflage because it is featured in the picture in the autoblog? thx
No sir. That was the ASCC v10 previous NSX replacement that got scrapped. The new car will look nothing like this
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I think you are right but why did Autoblog use that picture as the picture for their recent article? Just confusing.. haha.. I know it is a silly question but just want to make sure.
At this point I want more specs before I can agree to that. Our NSX was expensive due to materials and the hand assembled process. Our cars are not just aluminum panels but aluminum suspension. Let's not forget all the titanium in the car.
This car will be mid engine and use aluminum panels. So far that's the only distinction from all the other cars Hondas bringing to the Acura line up over the next few years. Until I know some more details I see a car priced inline with the GTR which also has aluminum panels and a V6 engine. Of course the GTR goes up what almost $5k every year though :biggrin:
Honda is doing a lot of sharing to keep the price of this car down so they don't repeat the NSX 1.0 mistake. Toyo is losing money selling the LFA but it's their tech flagship and is very expensive to make.
Oh yeah someone mentioned carbon ceramic rotors making this car expensive , but hey that's a $5k option on the Porsche Cayman/Boxster but standard on the $100k ZR1 Corvette. So again just haven't seen anything for a mid $100k price tag. LED headlights super sweet and Audi debuted them on the R8 V10 over a year ago so no new tech and the Japanese are known for being able to do things for less than the Germans not more than.
Simple they goofed. The car they pictured is in camo so it seemed better than using the Avengers car. Hell C/D is showing a pic of a Zanardi and saying new NSX confirmed for production. Until the Detroit autoshow the Avengers car is the best pic of the new NSX.
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I hope its not a big heavy car. My point is the tire sizes dont make sense for a mid-engine car.
The GTR had a clear and defined target. The 911 turbo. The NSX had the 348 and both had a lot of testing and development and arguably achieved their objectives. With no target or goal im afraid the new nsx will just be a hybrid engineering exercise and not a true performance car with a soul.
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