Uhh, we would have 1/3 of the cops we have now.:biggrin: IMHO it is really simple. If you paid Police Officers or Teachers more you would get more intelligent, better educated people. If you pay then $35k a yr. then you are not likely to get the best and the brightest.
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Uhh, we would have 1/3 of the cops we have now.:biggrin: IMHO it is really simple. If you paid Police Officers or Teachers more you would get more intelligent, better educated people. If you pay then $35k a yr. then you are not likely to get the best and the brightest.
cops make WAY over 35k a year.
I worked for the 2nd highest paid dept in the Nation (right behind city of Oakland). The quality of the officers doesn't change with the amount of pay. If anything it gives them more of a "holier than thou" attitute. And, most of the officers I worked with DID have a degree, which fueled their ego's even more. Not all of them were bad, but not all of them were good either. Fortunately for that dept the good outweighed the bad.
I believe when it comes to hiring quality personnel, it's more of a matter of demographics. Not so much where the person was raised or lives, but where the dept is located. If you patrol a shitty town, you run into more bad people, and your perspective changes. You work in a higher quality area, and you are less likely to have as much negative contact with the public. You are more likely to have better quality officers in places like Beverly Hills or Upstate New York (I don't know a comparable city on the East Coast?), than let's say Compton or Jersey. I know this is not a definitive outlook, but it's a plausible one.
I'm not saying that any of these reasons is an excuse for the actions of any officers, period. Because its NOT. If you are an officer, you act professionally 100% of the time while in uniform or you will immediately lose any respect you had left after putting on said uniform. The problem is that officers tend to take work related matters personally, when instead they could just bite their tongue, do their job, and save themselves, their dept, and their profession a world of embarrassment...
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As I posted in another thread a while back, some of the MA state troopers are pulling down over $200K/year.
Maybe the big brother approach is the only solution. Maybe a video/audio recorder needs to be part of their uniform.
Per the news report- the good sergent must have tampered with his, cause it is now missing.
Well, here we have a legitimate bad apple, pretty clear cut. even ONEADAM12 is part of the concensus on this one, but lets try to remember the counterpoint-
This arse isn't the only cop in America-town. there are lots of good guys doing good things too.
Philip
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Hal, thanks for clearing up for us that this wasn't staged by a couple of drama students.:wink:
Staged by drama students.
Good one.:wink:
Hal, thanks for clearing up for us that this wasn't staged by a couple of drama students.:wink:
Staged by drama students.
Good one.:wink:
Most employees are closely monitored while working. I don't see any downside to them being recorded while on duty.
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The government is allowed to watch us, but we aren't allowed to watch them. :tongue:
If there were video cameras in every cop car, and every jail, there would be a new lawsuit every day.
I have an absolutely spotless background, and was actually turned down by LA Sherriff's Dept for basically having too much integrity during the background investigation.
I'm not sure I like the way cops are screened, but I don't know that I have a better way...
Geez. That's ridiculous!
This is all to familiar.Know your rights people, cops are gangsters with badges. F-a cop!
Yeah, yeah,...some of you might say not all cops are like that and some BS that you respect them for what they do, do for us. But fukc that, I'm labeling them as they label/profile me.... They're all dikc heads in my book.
Thus the cycle is perpetuated...
From the Houston Police Dept. web site:
Police Officer ** $37,103.30 - $51,540.32
* Earn up to $32,00.00 while training during 6 month academy and 6 month field training/probation, with a bachelor’s degree.
** Earn over $49,000.00 your second year, with a bachelor’s degree, equipment allowance, shift/ weekend pay, and bilingual pay.
Police Officer ** $37,103.30 - $51,540.32
* Earn up to $32,00.00 while training during 6 month academy and 6 month field training/probation, with a bachelor’s degree.
** Earn over $49,000.00 your second year, with a bachelor’s degree, equipment allowance, shift/ weekend pay, and bilingual pay.
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only the sherrif has the key to open the box with the audio and video
simple backwater lackies trying to cover there own injustice
I hope he rakes in big bucks on this one!!
^^can you believe the sherrifs interview??? the poor kid was baiting and pushing his buttons, and thats a legitimate reason to act the way he did, break the law, and abuse his position??!?! He should be as calm as a cucumber in ANY situtation
I believe it was Ice Cube and NWA that said it best, "F*CK the POLICE!!!"
The cop should of shot him, then burned down his car. :biggrin:
Thanks Dave. Most cops I've met are great people like yourself.
There are bad apples in every profession, and the one in the video sounds like he will get his due.
Take care.
I wonder how many people this cop helped convict in the past are now calling their lawyers and filing appeals.
Excellent point... Now that the shadow of doubt has been cast, what will the ramifications be?
Such a tangled web.
P
I was just wondering where Jesse Jackson was
guess it only matters when the cop is white and the "victim" is black......and theres plenty of money to be extorted out of the 5 O to make Jesse shut up
I am confused at how the Chief of Police can condone ANY of the actions of that officer. How is signaling going into a lot slowly suddenly 'driving erratically'? He blames the victim when his officer was totally out of line, and is a disgraceful representation of what we all fear in the police. That they can do what they want without consequence, and really do hold our life in their hands, as they can make up the cause and say we were resisting arrest later on (just like this officer did). The fact that he was not fired immediately suggests that this kind of action is tolerated, and only acted upon now because it is such a public matter. It reminds me of a local video here where several off duty officers were taped driving over 100 mph on the highway, and the video aired on Indy news stations. No punishment at all, and the Chief actually went on the news to say they did nothing wrong, they were just 'excited' to get home from the Academy. It is situations like these, and the poor handling off them when they are brought to light, that I believe is the root of the resentment and divide between the police and the general public.
Thank you. It is good to see that someone in the profession also sees how unacceptable this is. Despite my own personal opinions, I do hold out hope that the majority of law enforcement is good at heart. Your statement makes me feel that this is possible, and glad that there are a few good guys out there with a badge actually protecting us from the bad guys instead of being one themselves.
I had a great experience with an officer today.
I turned right on a no right turn corner, to see him standing right infront of my motioning me to the curb, in my NSX.
I honestly didnt know I couldnt turn right there. I actually knew he was there because I passed down the road 10 mintues prior; on my return I didnt know that I could not turn right onto the street, I thought he was taking only those who turned left.
I appologized profusely, told him (truthfully) that I didnt know that I couldnt turn right there and that when I was in the intersection (and thus below any signs) I made a last minute decision to make the turn.
He let me off.
Today makes up for the poor experience I had with a real jerk of an officer a year ago.
I turned right on a no right turn corner, to see him standing right infront of my motioning me to the curb, in my NSX.
I honestly didnt know I couldnt turn right there. I actually knew he was there because I passed down the road 10 mintues prior; on my return I didnt know that I could not turn right onto the street, I thought he was taking only those who turned left.
I appologized profusely, told him (truthfully) that I didnt know that I couldnt turn right there and that when I was in the intersection (and thus below any signs) I made a last minute decision to make the turn.
He let me off.
Today makes up for the poor experience I had with a real jerk of an officer a year ago.
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