Rocker Panels

[stacy'snsx]

OK everyone here are the first pics of my design.Understand these are only the preliminary pictures!They are not the final finish.Just want to know what you all think of them.They are about 2 inches lower than the Wings West sides.Please let me know via P.M.
Thanks Stacy


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[nsxot1c]

looks nice id be interested for sure, how much we talkin here?

nice work
Chris

 

[stacy'snsx]

Looking at the pictures I realized I need to change the front contour line to match up to the door jam gap.Gone to the shop to modify.As for price I yet have to determine that.

 

[Cairo94507]

I agree with the contour line on the front, as I was looking at it I thought that and then I scrolled down and you already caught it. Looks nice, can't wait to see the painted finished product. Michael

 

[NSXWIND]

One suggest, I think it would look better if you have an opening vent, not too big, to match the look of the side vent. (Add more flavors to it :biggrin: )

 

[stacy'snsx]

Great minds think alike Michael! LOL
As far as a side vent,not in this batch but maybe a later date.
I'm also thinking of changing the back contour line to match the lines of the intake vent.Not so much curve.

 

[NSXDreamer2]

Stacy, I was going to PM you, but since you already got someone giving some advise here, I just post here and see if there'll be other people agree/disagree my opinion...

Besides your front contour line, I would say, yes, it looks good, however, one of the reason I like the 02+ style is that it also had the coverings on the door area, so it's more flush to the body line, instead of our older style's "taper" contour. I wouldn't say I hate the original styling, but be honest, it's a really dated design. As shown as your third picture, especially with us who had the wider offset aftermarket front wheels, it looks kind of weird. The 02'+ panel is cleaner...

I'm also not sure about the lower ground clearance, I would think it'll not be too favorable to people who hits the track regularly, from the difficulties of fitting a jack underneath the car and also in case of minor off track incidents. I also thinks that the side skirt actually look wonderful with the WW front lip, but then the rear now is too short and again, the car body lines being kind of dated. ( I don't know how many people noticed that, the 97-01 nsx, from the side view, you will see the front lip being lowest, then step up to the rocker panel, then another step up to the rear valance...) which, the 02+ is more flush, I know it is an objective thing of saying the 91-01 style is dated, admit it, if it's not dated, none of us will look into this post... (I mean, most people would be just like Ken(nsxtasy) and felt that there's no need for any aftermarket enhancement on looks.) Disclaimer: I'm not saying Ken's not right
Stacy, my point is if the lower the rocker panel too much, you will limit your kit only be interested by someone who already had an aftermarket lower clearance front lip, or who had a full body kit but don't like the particulart rocker panel of that company.(mix and match type). Since you developed the whole thing and I understand it will cost you a little bit for this R&D thing, the last thing you want would be narrowing your customer base, right??

I object the idea of having any vents, it will be just like at least 4 or 5 companies' panels. Stacy's kit selling point is a clean panel that will enhance the look of the car. I believed a subtle body kit will go a long way.

I need to say again, I'm very thankful of Stacy having an open mind to accept comments (good or bad) and I admire his bravery of going out and try something new.

 

[stacy'snsx]

Thanks for your comments NSXDreamer2.As far as clearance,I have 3.5 inches to the ground from bottom of skirt.My car is lowered 1 inch.What is needed for jack to clear?I built it to an extreme to get feed back,if sensus says build it higher than I will.Just needed to get a baseline to start with.So build it extereme and modify 'till you make most people happy."Can't satisfy all the people all the time,just some of the people some of the time"
Thanks again for your comments,keep them coming!
Front contour line is already modified and looks 100 times better!
Back contour line is almost finished as well.I hope to have the contours done for wednesday.Will post pics again!
I would also like to think most owners are "Boulevard cruisers" and do not hit the track with their cars.Again ,I do not want to ruffle feathers to those who do track their cars,but I know I couldn't afford too!

 

[NSXDreamer2]

I would also like to think most owners are "Boulevard cruisers" and do not hit the track with their cars.

At least not most of the people around this forum.
We all understand the nsx is built for the track.

I do not want to ruffle feathers to those who do track their cars,but I know I couldn't afford too!

It's actually easier than you thought, all you needed is some reading about proper driving fundermentals, and a heart that like to learn and enjoy, and leave your Ego at home. Come over to Seattle next year, I with my other 2 friends hit the track once a month in summer time (they also drives nsx), we usually give rides to friends or other people we met there. Or maybe we can cruize to AZ together for the nsxpo If you are talking about the financial part for getting the nsx ready for track, it's also very easy, if you change your oil accordingly, (motor, tranny, clutch), you might at best need a better set of brake pads. All that should cost less than one of your rear tires

Sorry for being off topic.

 

[NSXDreamer2]

forgot to add that the little arc right underneath the vent, how much does it extended out? While it serve a pupose of keeping from the skirt looked too bulky, I wonder how easily it will get rock chipped??

 

[stacy'snsx]

It isn't as bulky as the pictures make it look.It actually rolls under quite nicely.As far as rock chips,not too worried.I think it will be fine.Once I get a finished product I will post better pictures.
Cruising to NSXPO next year,you better believe I will cruise down with you guys!Thanks for the invite.I will see you well before that hopefully.

 

[stevenlee]

I like it. Changing the front countour line will be good. The rear contour could possibly be modified so that it flows with the natural lines of the car. To me there seems to be a little bit of disharmony in the line of the rear contour. I wouldn't mind an air vent in the rear.

I especially like that it has generally clean lines. Will it flow well with an '02 rear valance and a stock '94 front?

If so, I may be another taker!!!

 

[stacy'snsx]

Front line already changed to match up with the door gap,following the same line downward.The back has the same contour as the vent above.Will fine tune it a little and get pics up soon.As far as rock chips,definately no different than any other rockers.
Thanks Stacy

 

[Edgemts]

Stacy, I was going to PM you, but since you already got someone giving some advise here, I just post here and see if there'll be other people agree/disagree my opinion...

Besides your front contour line, I would say, yes, it looks good, however, one of the reason I like the 02+ style is that it also had the coverings on the door area, so it's more flush to the body line, instead of our older style's "taper" contour. I wouldn't say I hate the original styling, but be honest, it's a really dated design. As shown as your third picture, especially with us who had the wider offset aftermarket front wheels, it looks kind of weird. The 02'+ panel is cleaner...

I'm also not sure about the lower ground clearance, I would think it'll not be too favorable to people who hits the track regularly, from the difficulties of fitting a jack underneath the car and also in case of minor off track incidents. I also thinks that the side skirt actually look wonderful with the WW front lip, but then the rear now is too short and again, the car body lines being kind of dated. ( I don't know how many people noticed that, the 97-01 nsx, from the side view, you will see the front lip being lowest, then step up to the rocker panel, then another step up to the rear valance...) which, the 02+ is more flush, I know it is an objective thing of saying the 91-01 style is dated, admit it, if it's not dated, none of us will look into this post... (I mean, most people would be just like Ken(nsxtasy) and felt that there's no need for any aftermarket enhancement on looks.) Disclaimer: I'm not saying Ken's not right
Stacy, my point is if the lower the rocker panel too much, you will limit your kit only be interested by someone who already had an aftermarket lower clearance front lip, or who had a full body kit but don't like the particulart rocker panel of that company.(mix and match type). Since you developed the whole thing and I understand it will cost you a little bit for this R&D thing, the last thing you want would be narrowing your customer base, right??

I object the idea of having any vents, it will be just like at least 4 or 5 companies' panels. Stacy's kit selling point is a clean panel that will enhance the look of the car. I believed a subtle body kit will go a long way.

I need to say again, I'm very thankful of Stacy having an open mind to accept comments (good or bad) and I admire his bravery of going out and try something new.

I second the above post!!!!
And add that I agree with the thought that the '02 parts are cleaner and less dated, The front fender, rocker, door, rear fender all go almost straight down, they do not curve in like the '01 and earlier. They do this while only replacing the rocker and a door fill piece. If you were to do a door fill piece there wouldn't be a need for the lines you have, just fill the whole thing and it would look smooth and flow with any body kit.
As far as height, I think its fine as is. If you run off the track expect it to get scratched.(if you run off at Watkins you hit a wall SO!!)
Regardless of which way you go, I give you a lot of credit for putting in the work you have and for opening your work to others opinions. :smile:
Most low profile jacks are good down to 3" so you are fine.

 

[len3.8]

Thanks for your comments NSXDreamer2.As far as clearance,I have 3.5 inches to the ground from bottom of skirt.My car is lowered 1 inch.What is needed for jack to clear?I built it to an extreme to get feed back,if sensus says build it higher than I will.Just needed to get a baseline to start with.So build it extereme and modify 'till you make most people happy."Can't satisfy all the people all the time,just some of the people some of the time"
Thanks again for your comments,keep them coming!
Front contour line is already modified and looks 100 times better!
Back contour line is almost finished as well.I hope to have the contours done for wednesday.Will post pics again!
I would also like to think most owners are "Boulevard cruisers" and do not hit the track with their cars.Again ,I do not want to ruffle feathers to those who do track their cars,but I know I couldn't afford too!

Stacy, I like it a lot. If you were to take that 1 inch and put it back into the height, I would love it.
NSX dreamer, has pretty much nailed it as far as the description, he read my mind. It looks great.
Good job.
I have the Wings west Kit on my car, I am going to do the 02 rear update, Your side panels would look nice with that.
I too like the smoothness and lines of the 02 much better, not that the older cars doesn't look good. It's purely a personal preference. The lines just seem to flow better in my eyes.
I would most definitely consider it. As long as it is not lower than it already is. Raise it a little and it's dead on.
Don't put the vents in it. Looksgreat as it is.
How much more of the front contour did you pick up?
Did you change the appearance in the wheel arch of the front? I will wait for the pics before asking more ???'s
Looks good.
JAO
Len

 

[stacy'snsx]

Let me see what this one turns out like,and then maybe a '02 looking one.I just carved the rear contour lines in mine today.A little fine tuning and hopefully pics tomorrow night!I just find the '02 to be a little flat for my liking,but if that is what you guys like,then I probably will give it a try.Just a little nervous about making the skins off of my finished paint job!Fiberglass can reek havoc on paint LOL.
Thanks for all your guy's help.

 

[stacy'snsx]

Now you have me thinkin' of it DAMN!
All the work I've already put into this,and it could be a waste.How about I post pics of mine tomorrow and at a later date add door skins as well!
I tell you what, give a fair chance at these ones,if nobody likes them I will build something close to the '02.But please give me a chance on these.
The contour lines hopefully will make these alot better.
I just went to an acura interactive showroom,I was wondering if the door skins(the part I would have to make)stick past the body line at the top.
This '02 kit consists of 2 pieces as far as I can see.
Please let me know?
If anyone could e-mail a close up of the sides as well!
My e-mail is:

[email protected]



One last thing.
What would you guys think would be a fair price for a '02 kit?
Be reasonable,don't put anything ridiculous!

 

[len3.8]

Let me see what this one turns out like,and then maybe a '02 looking one.I just carved the rear contour lines in mine today.A little fine tuning and hopefully pics tomorrow night!I just find the '02 to be a little flat for my liking,but if that is what you guys like,then I probably will give it a try.Just a little nervous about making the skins off of my finished paint job!Fiberglass can reek havoc on paint LOL.
Thanks for all your guy's help.

I like what you have already here. That looks good as it is.
If I had a choice I wouldn't have it as low. But the look and shape you have pictured here is nice.. At least to my eyes.
If I didn't have a choice, what you have shown in this thread would suit my needs fine. Cost would be a factor. :smile:

Len

 

[stacy'snsx]

O.K. guys here's my latest idea.Get rid of all contour lines and keep the same curvey profile I have and add door skins.I asked few people around here and they didn't care much for the squareness of the newer model.So my new idea is an inbetween model.What do you think?

 

[stacy'snsx]

One thing I am worried about is the amount of bodywork it may take in getting the front part to fit.You are dealing with two separate surfaces,getting those to align on every single car is going to be next to impossible! I know that the factory does it,but understand it is aligned probably as the skirt and fender are installed at the same time,allowing the installer to adjust accordingly.Side skirts themselves align easily because they butt into the other surfaces.
Oh well just thought I would make a note to you on that.
Anyway off to the shop I go to give this a try.Tonight is the rocker and hopefully the weekend will be the door.
Thanks for the pictures of the '02-'03 model,no more needed.

 

[stacy'snsx]

Here's some new pictures of the latest idea.The only thing I might change is the rear flare-out and blending the front contour line in,but I need to add the doorskin piece before I blending it.I am using it as a reference point.
Yes that is masking tape on the doors,not part of the bodykit.Got bust after dinner and already blended the front contour line in and convinced myself to build something close to '02 rocker panels(the pics don't show the blended line).Will post more tomorrow.

 

[Veleno]

Hey Stacy,

Are you seats yellow or tan?

I like the flare on the skirt, but the line up front (following the fender) makes it look akward, almost like an add-on piece to the skirt. I say get rid of that line and make it smooth.

 

[stacy'snsx]

The seats are yellow and black.
As far as the line in the front part of the rocker,GONE!I agree looks better without it.One thing for sure this has turned out to be one of the hardest projects ever.Just finding the shape I want seems to be a nightmare.You do all this work,put it on the car and then only to find out it doesn't look good.
I'll post new pics today hopefully.

 

[polar]

somehow i think the first version looks better, or maybe just because you haven't paint them yet, I think the rear part of the first version look more flush than the 2nd version.

 

[NSXDreamer2]

Yeap, the edge flared a little bit too much and away from the body line, maybe make it a little smoother (roll in instead of sharp flare) Looking at the last picture, and I still think the skirt is a little too low now it won't flow with the front and rear WW kit. The WW kit needs to be lower to match!! Maybe, just maybe the SOS / Dali front lip will match your creation better since both designs have the front lip attached to the bottom of the bumper instead of going over the lower bumper as wingswest.