Next-Gen NSX Info!! [mag article]

apapada said:
like I said before, if Honda wants the 06 NSX to be back in today's supercar territory they will go with a v10 or more, mounted longitudinally.

To be competitive in its market space the NSX really just needs to offer more than Porsche, keep up with the best Vettes and not be blown out by any homeland competition.

The car is 90k, not 900k. Its outrageous to expect some 600hp V12 powerplant in a 90k car.
 
OK, this is the third thread in the last few weeks that has provided some info into and new car in 05. Something is going on or am I just overly optimistic. Wouldn't do anything until I have more proof, but if I get word that something is really being produced and its reliable, my current NSX is going on the market for sale and I'm getting in line for a deposit.

Has anyone else considered this thought too?

I don't care what size, type or degree engine is in the thing. Is there any doubt that it won't be alot better than current standards in the market. Why would anyone actually think that Acura would produce its #1 vehicle (halo car) with anything less than acceptible power against the competition at a price that makes its rivals wonder how! It would make no sense for them to do that.
 
Okay, let's setup some categories, and start a friendly pool. Each member gets one guess, and the closest wins. Honda will toss in a new gen NSX in addition to what we toss in for our guess. Show me the money.

Oh, I will volunteer to hold all the money until it is unveiled. :p
 
Tom Larkins said:
OK, this is the third thread in the last few weeks that has provided some info into and new car in 05. Something is going on or am I just overly optimistic.

I don't care what size, type or degree engine is in the thing. Is there any doubt that it won't be alot better than current standards in the market.
Moving the current NSX to another plant could be the perfect opportunity to re-tool for the new NSX.

I have no doubt that the next gen will rock the automotive world.
 
Tom Larkins said:
Why would anyone actually think that Acura would produce its #1 vehicle (halo car) with anything less than acceptible power against the competition at a price that makes its rivals wonder how! It would make no sense for them to do that.

How can you say that? Acura had the PERFECT opportunity in 2002 with the facellift to give the car a good bump in power, or offer a factory SC and make it competitive. Instead they just made it look a little different and made it heavier. They sure did not make it competitive.

The NSX has had less than acceptable power for 10 years, what makes you think they would produce a new car with even acceptable power??
 
On paper the nsx does seem short on power compared to all the cars that the "we need more power camp" likes to compare the nsx to.But in the real world again I'm happy to say that our car does quite well,better than expected with what it has.that is if you choose to drive it up to its limits to extract that.I can honestly say that on the street I don't long for more power nor do I lament that our car is not a great "drag racer"I of course would'nt mind more oomph at the track(road course) just so that my fellow enthusiasts with (more horsies) don't have to lift quite so much to let me pass on the striaghts!:D
 
ooh....this thread is getting intense. all of our speculations are good.....3.5l V6, turbo V6, V8, V10, da da la la la.....

remember, the NSX doesn't need a V10 to compete as a SUPERCAR. the image and reputation already gives it the supercar signature.....performance is a given.

i have no doubt honda will increase the performance....whatever the means or outcome may be.

we're in love with the NSX for it's pure performance, reliability and rarity. no matter what the outcome is, i'm still saving up to get one.....it's a leap of faith i'm willing to take.:)
 
I very seriously doubt any rumor concerning "forced injection" vs N/A for any new Honda model as yet to be announced, let alone produced.

Why would Honda even remotely consider going "turbo" when the current Formula 1 age is N/A? Given Honda's longtime association with F1 and building their race technology into their street cars, this would seem extremely unlikely.

I for one hope Honda chooses to stay away from turbos and superchargers for the next gen NSX but you never know.
 
NetViper said:
How can you say that? Acura had the PERFECT opportunity in 2002 with the facellift to give the car a good bump in power, or offer a factory SC and make it competitive. Instead they just made it look a little different and made it heavier. They sure did not make it competitive.

You will get no argument from me that they havn't been pro-active enough to satisfy need. IMO the economy had something to do w/re-design both with the yen & dollar, hence the opportunity was not perfect. Under your comments and Acuras absence of improving the model it should have been done before 2002. Lets not forget the changes in 97, as little as they were its supposed to be a better car. So that leaves 5 years between the small exterior improvements from 97-02 somewhat like going to a 993 to 996 w/o upgrades but the first year of the 996 had problems. So we all want a upgrades sooner than the mother land can produce them....agreed. As for the SC, thats what CT/BBoost is doing already and unless you can substancially improve what they are doing, then whats the point.



The NSX has had less than acceptable power for 10 years, what makes you think they would produce a new car with even acceptable power??

By this statement that would mean the NSX hasn't lived up to standards since 1993-94 I assume. I beg to differ with that amount of time, maybe we should ask how reliable those that owned Vipers, 911's or Ferrari. The x hasn't cost as much to maintain and I bet its held its value by comparison in addition to fairing well on a road course.

Acceptable power, how much do you really need to compete against the $150k-$300k cars. Can our car be better, yea but how much can we afford really and do you want to go there.
 
Acceptable power, how much do you really need to compete against the $150k-$300k cars. Can our car be better, yea but how much can we afford really and do you want to go there. [/B]


well said....if honda one day sells the market an NSX with a V-10 that outputs 500hp and costs $150k, cuts warranty from 4yrs/50k to 2yrs/unlimited miles, would anyone still be interested?

for the same price, same performance and same warranty, i believe lambo, ferrari and porsche may be hotter selling items.
 
Maybe it best they just discontinue the NSX, our cars become even more desirable and I'll just trade in my '02 M5 for the next generation one with the V10 500+ hp. Love my NSX, but the M5 is THE ultimate automobile!!
 
why don't they just go with a tiny v10. I believe (not sure) their F1 engine is a 3.5 v10. The new Gallardo has a 4960cc v10. It would be balanced very well too. We don't need some high displacement v8 to impress Americans, just worry about the power to weight ratio. Size doesn't matter, the more efficient it is, the more power it'll make.

Whatever they do they need to blow away everyone by a mile, like when it cam eout in '90. Then they can leave it mostly unchage for another 13 years. Do it right the first time and you won't have to constintly change it every year like Corvettes and Mustangs.
 
Next Gen NSX

For my next NSX I'd like a V12 .:D

But I think it's most likely we will see some form of Integrated Motor Assist (IMA) System, combined a V6 3.5-liter-3.8 DOHC i-VTEC. 400+ total hp and it still gets 40MPG.

Honda will keep it fast, light, green , and will be the innovator again.

From what I've heard it's just a question of getting the storage technology, (batteries), affordable and reliable over longer periods of time before replacement.

2500 LB car
3.8l V6 350hp
100hp per wheel regenerative IMA
35-40MPG
That works flawless

That would be a Honda
 

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turbo engines can be green also....just not under load... ;)
 
The new R&T mag says that a hybrid is still possible for '05.
 
Zman said:
Maybe it best they just discontinue the NSX, our cars become even more desirable and I'll just trade in my '02 M5 for the next generation one with the V10 500+ hp. Love my NSX, but the M5 is THE ultimate automobile!!

I don't agree! The NSX MUST NOT be discontinued at least not for a "selfish" reason like future value of our actual cars.

The NSX car concept is necessary in the automotive industry, it is a benchmark, a commitment towards excellence and multi level efficiency...

Anyway don't be afraid, our actual NSX, if we will keep them on good condition, will without doubt greatly appreciate in a few decades. I'm sure that in 20 years they will be worth 70K$-80K$.

Your M5 ultimateness is in regard of what?

It is certainly not the ultimate in matters of:

"two seaterness"
"midengineness"
"lightweightness"
"nimbleness"

There is no ultimate car but only ultimate subjective appreciation for it...IMO

I'm happy that you are delighted with your M5, wich is a great car AIMO.


Originally posted by Dan Ciesniewsky

why don't they just go with a tiny v10. I believe (not sure) their F1 engine is a 3.5 v10.

That would be great! No! GREAT!

Actual F1 engines are 3.0 L Before 1994 they were 3,5 L.
 
JsnNSX said:

I think, a 180 degree eight cylinder engine pushing at least 400 hp is more like it, if they really want to keep up with even todays super cars.

The sound of a 180 degree high reving 8 cylider (360 modena)engine...mmmmmm

What do you mean 180 degrees? You mean a boxer engine?


And I also agree that NA is the way to go. FI just feels like cheating or copping out to me.

6 cyl, 8 cyl... I don't care, as long as it's fast.
 
You need to turn back the hands of time to find production straight eights.
 
hm...I was told it was a straight 8. Which is why it makes the beautiful sound. Since I can not afford a ferrari, I do not bother looking into it. Guess he was wrong. Oh well...
 
JsnNSX said:
All I mean by 180 degrees is a straight eight. Like the 360 modena.

The 360 has a 180 degree or flat crankshaft, not a straight eight. A 180 degree crank (unlike the typical 90 degree crankshaft in most V8s), gets you even firing patterns in each cylinder bank at the cost of a dynamic imbalance. You may get slightly more horsepower, but you'll get more vibration too. The different firing pattern is part of the distinct Ferrari sound. Supposedly you can get a similar sound in a 90 degree crank V8 with crossover headers.
 
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