300 British engineers (technicians and mechanics) designing a car in England, getting paid by Honda are not Honda. Much like the Mercedes engine is not a true Mercedes-Benz engine, but MB paying Ilmor Engineering.
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300 British engineers (technicians and mechanics) designing a car in England, getting paid by Honda are not Honda. Much like the Mercedes engine is not a true Mercedes-Benz engine, but MB paying Ilmor Engineering.
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Re: Good show
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79627
That could be because he finally stayed in his hotel room by himself before the race and after the post-race festivities:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79627
"I think most drivers when they have the possibility of winning the world championship, they go crazy," added Button, wearing a t-shirt with the message 'What goes around comes around.'
"They go out and have an absolutely crazy evening. But we all celebrate in different ways and for me to just chill on my own was the best thing for me.
"I obviously wanted to go out and congratulate the whole team, which I did, and then I got home and just relaxed and just took everything in. It was perfect.
"They go out and have an absolutely crazy evening. But we all celebrate in different ways and for me to just chill on my own was the best thing for me.
"I obviously wanted to go out and congratulate the whole team, which I did, and then I got home and just relaxed and just took everything in. It was perfect.
Yes there is, basically the entire car. The RA109 was designed by Honda at their facilities during the last half of 2008. Brawn had to kluge a Mercedes engine into it, which was a bit of a problem, since the chassis was developed for the Honda RA808E V8. That the car performed so well with a sub-optimal engine fitting is a testament to both the Brawn team's skill and the RA109 chassis. One can only imagine what it could have done with the Honda engine it was supposed to have...
I have to say, I never really wanted Button to win this...I was looking for the upset by Vettel, but after that race I have to say that Button deserved it. Some of those passes were great...he was finally driving like a world champion.
Also, I'm really looking forward to watching Kobayashi in the future after his performance this weekend. What a fun race to watch.
Also, I'm really looking forward to watching Kobayashi in the future after his performance this weekend. What a fun race to watch.
While there is no question that Honda's contribution to this WC was massive - it spent 2 years developing a chasis, I have to say that the Mercedes engine was an upgrade. (We will never know for sure) The MB engine's reliability, power and performance in several teams shows that it was a winning engine.
Brawn GP won this championship not Honda. Running the team, bringing it back from near death, securing sponsorship and drivers, creating an environment for both drivers to succeed - this was all Brawn, not Honda. I'm sure other teams with a comparable chasis would not have won without the team that Brawn GP has.
Brawn GP won this championship not Honda. Running the team, bringing it back from near death, securing sponsorship and drivers, creating an environment for both drivers to succeed - this was all Brawn, not Honda. I'm sure other teams with a comparable chasis would not have won without the team that Brawn GP has.
Yes, we know Honda did not win this championship, but c'mon, lets give credit where credit is due. Without Honda there would be no Brawn GP, period. To say there is no Honda in Brawn GP is a bit silly. In my heart, this was a Brawn/Honda/Mercedes victory.
LOLI recorded it on DVR, but I'm not sure if I can make a copy to DVD. I don't think Speed replays the races, but you can watch the highlights on F1 Debrief next friday.
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was hoping it was on the web somewhere
I figured as much. I'm not sure if the FOM offers any kind of web replay. I know their live timing and scoring is not available after the fact (on their site).
I'm still looking for the 1983 US Grand Prix from Dallas. I was there, but didn't see Nigel Mansell push his car across the finish line and collapse.
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I get my race videos from racing-underground, unfortunately I don't have invites. I'm not sure if it's still open for registering.
USF1 is looking at Kyle Busch in 2011 to drive for the team. Anyone else think thy can find a better driver?
there are a lot of young karting and open wheel racers in the us that could be tested but as far as sponsor dollars Patrick could bring alot.Montoya has experience if not the heart.....plenty of current drivers being pushed out need rides.
Windsor wants a US drivier at some point in time. I just dont think Kyle Busch is the guy.
Link to article:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79660
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I like Marco Andretti for the seat. Young, but already has some seat time in big events (2nd at Indy, etc.) With the right F1 mentor in the other slot, plus his dad and gramps for advice, I think he could win a WDC in a good car.
Re: Will USF1 be different than other F1 teams?
I've been wrestling with the abysmal failure of US series drivers in F-1 for the past 17 years. I don't think it's raw talent. Is it the equipment? Probably plays a part, but can't be the whole reason. Must be something else bordering on discrimination, F-1 snobbery and mostly, the secret reason that all drivers see the accepted ladder to F-1 going thru European series.
Whatever it is, I would hope that Windsor and Anderson will have a team organization and culture that is less political and discriminatory than the traditional F-1 teams. Is it that simple; that it starts at the top with the management?
I've been wrestling with the abysmal failure of US series drivers in F-1 for the past 17 years. I don't think it's raw talent. Is it the equipment? Probably plays a part, but can't be the whole reason. Must be something else bordering on discrimination, F-1 snobbery and mostly, the secret reason that all drivers see the accepted ladder to F-1 going thru European series.
Whatever it is, I would hope that Windsor and Anderson will have a team organization and culture that is less political and discriminatory than the traditional F-1 teams. Is it that simple; that it starts at the top with the management?
Windsor pretty much confirmed that no U.S. drivers would be used for 2010, but for 2011 forward they would be a focus. Apparently, USF1 is running some sort of F1 development camp that they hope will produce a competent American driver. Even with the dominance of NASCAR, there is plenty of road racing talent here in the states (SCCA, ALMS, Formula Ford, Formula Mazda, IRL), but it seems like they are ignored in favor of 14 year old European karting champs. I actually think Rubens would be an excellent choice for USF1's "experienced" driver mentor.
He would be good. However, he's jonesing for a championship and though possible with USF1, not likely. Therefore, I'm not sure he'd welcome a drive for the US team.
I think Scott Speed got a pretty raw deal in F1 though I know he's said he's not even interested anymore. If he was and his confidence could be developed again, he'd be a good choice IMHO.
Have you actually watched him race? Other than a famous name, he doesn't brought anything noteworthy to the table. He's fairly reckless and not quick, even among the Indy competition.
Same story with Rahal.
Re: Yep, Ruby was right...........
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someone's messing with his tire pressures !!!
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someone's messing with his tire pressures !!!
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