00+ ABS Modulator Serial Numbers Database

Good question, not all Nissin ABS units say NK8, for ex. a 98-01 Integra ABS modulator and a 2002 TL ABS modulator both say NISSIN NK1, and a S2K late model AP1 says NISSIN NK11. And while some Nissin units may appear very similar externally, based on what's been posted earlier in this thread are going to be internally programmed differently and not possible to change/tune due to being read-protected.
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Highly unlikely. Any company with competent engineers isn't going to leave IP like that exposed regardless of who is "supposed" to have access to it. If it's tunable, there would be a small region of memory where the tuning parameters are stored separate from the actual programming that uses them.
Thanks for your response.

The S2000 didn't come with TCS (became opt. '06, std. in '08) and programmable Hondata Traction Control modules had been developed for '00-'05 S2000 owners (ex. link below).

Does anyone know if an S2K ABS unit paired with one of the below control modules would be compatible with an NSX for those wanting to keep traction control capability?

 
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This listing just popped up for a used "Honda NSX late model ABS module 57110-SL0-Z03" on Yahoo Japan Auctions and is currently at $75 USD. 57110-SL0-Z03 in the title which is the correct part number for a late model NSX ABS unit. The description (translated) says "This is an ABS for the NSX. Removed from an early model NA1-100,xxx. There were no problems. A conversion harness will also be included."

A couple red flags ⛳⛳ though, Part#57110-SL0-Z03 will only appear on the box and NOT on the unit itself. Since this is pulled from a car there is no box obviously to confirm it so the seller is just referencing it. The sticker on the unit itself should say 57105SL0 010 but the pics in the listing don't show that side of the housing to confirm. Also, if you look closely at the third photo the serial starts with a "D" which so far in the database has consistently been a S2000 unit; and if the sticker's still on the housing, my guess it will say 57105S2A J50. I suspect once installed on an NSX with the included conversion harness it'll work but you won't have TCS since I think it's an S2000 unit.

Update: I reached out to the seller to request a pic of the sticker on the black housing but they never got back to me. The used harness included in the listing has me now thinking they upgraded to the S2K unit and then got their hands on a late model OEM ABS unit and was selling their initial upgrade.
 
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Hello NSX fam,

Yeah, I messed up and bought one from Yahoo auctions with a serial number beginning with "B"... not sure what it goes to but the seller marketed it as a ABS modulator for NSX with deleted TCS...


The serial number in the picture begins with "L" but that's not the one I received...

Actual etched serial number is:

B 9K21-0368 B01

Can you tell me if this will fit, @vf2ss?

Please let me know if there's way to identify what the modulator I have goes to or if it's compatible with the NSX. I bought the modulator waaaay before you posted the database.

Thank you so much.

R/
Eric
 

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Hi Eric, I am very familiar with that seller and have actually corresponded with him on various listings on different platforms and been following him for over a year watching him sell on average 2-4 used units per month. In the beginning, by titling his listings as being for NSX and labeling them ("with deleted TCS" or "TCS which has poor control has been removed") they were selling upwards of $600-$700USD per unit. Over time the local buying community (and/or overseas proxy buying community) seemed to figure out they were probably S2000 ABS units and the price has gone down to $200 - $300 USD per unit and has remained that way to present day (example here). There was also a rumor that these units were from retired Honda Racing Teams where they are required to damage or disable a feature on the units before putting them up for sale like removing the TCS, but based on earlier comments about not being able to modify the programming this seems pretty unlikely (meaning the TCS was never there vs. disabled via programming).

The seller you bought from maintains a 99.9% reputation with 750 transactions at Yahoo Japan Auctions (after all he did state there would be no TCS and Japanese used parts are usually in stellar condition due to their strict automotive laws for road worthiness). Looking at the Yahoo listing link you provided it appears to have the req'd 8 tiny holes surrounding the polished cylinder and the partially recessed nipple tip on the end which is consistent with an NSX or S2K unit.
Ex. of the 8 holes/dimples...
ABS_8_dimples.jpg

Ex. of S2000 ABS unit...

S2K_ABS.jpg

For the sake of comparison, the '05-'06 RSX NISSIN NK8 ABS unit of similar shape only has 4 holes around the cylinder and the nipple tip is fully protruded.
Ex. of RSX unit...
RSX_ABS.jpg


I have yet to see a "B" serial like the one you bought but at this point I suspect your "B" serial is from a S2000 based on your pics and would be consistent with what he's been selling all along (remember his high rating) which will be compatible with your NSX; but as stated in the listing you will have no TCS.

It will work great with a T3TEC harness [LINK] (about $260 USD) and since you got the ABS for $250, after it's all said and done you could upgrade your ABS brake system for around $1000 if you do the work yourself [LINK], or closer to $2000-$2500 total if you have someone do the install [ $250 (ABS) + $260 (harness) + $500 (pipes/brackets/bolts/washers/etc. which are readily available parts in the US [LIST HERE]) + $1000-$1500 install (about 8-10 hrs). Note: again, you will need to unplug the wire harness out of the TCS control unit behind the driver seat because the unit will NOT be receiving signals/data from each wheel sensor which will result in codes/cels being thrown. But once unplugged it will work in basically what would be constant "TCS OFF" mode.

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EDIT: For those wondering what driving the car will be like if you DON'T unplug your TCS when using a S2000 ABS unit:

Delay in Being Able to Move - After starting the car you must not move the car until the TCS light turns on and stays on (can be up to :15 sec) ... this means upon startup waiting through the normal illumination of all of the dash lights turning on, then off, then waiting till the TCS light turns back on and stays lit (i.e. ecu systems check is complete). The ABS light should be off (as long as the harness was wired correctly) and the constant yellow TCS light serves as a reminder that you no longer have this safety feature available. In short, start the car, wait for the TCS light, drive as normal.

What Happens if You Don't Wait - If you don't wait for the systems check to complete and start driving the car before the TCS light is on and/or try to trick the system by pushing the TCS Off button before the systems check is complete (the button will still function at this point but will soon be disabled), the ECU will initiate "safe mode/limp mode" disabling VTEC and basically limiting you from exceeding 4000-ish rpm. You will then have to pull over, come to a complete stop, turn off the engine, restart, wait through the systems check (up to :15) and finally when the TCS light stays lit can resume your journey.

Leaving TCS plugged in with a S2000 unit introduces unnecessary issues while offering no real benefit, namely: (1) Inconvenience Factor: initial wait time for the TCS light to come back on when you're out and about feels a lot longer (like leaving a store, someone's waiting for your parking spot, you start the car but can't move for :15 sec. (2) Visual Annoyance Factor: constant yellow light on the dash when you don't need to be reminded for the remainder of your ownership you have no TCS. (3) Safety Factor: if you have a situation that requires moving immediately after startup you'll be put in safe mode/limp mode. All of this can be avoided by unplugging the TCS ... i.e. no wait time, no dash light, full car capabilities which is the equivalent to turning TCS Off (which many of us do anyways).
 
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Hi vf2ss.

Thank you for the clarification. I thought I was SOL and had to buy another modulator. This thread is very helpful. Thanks again!
 
2000+ NSX USDM part# 57110-SL0-Z03
Sticker#
(on white label on black plastic housing) 57105SL0 010
Serial# (etched on black plastic housing)
The white label says 57105-SL0-010
Serial# H9S13-0002 H01
It came with a kit from Science of Speed a long time ago.
 
Thank you for your contribution to our database jedi14323 and nice collection of cars!

Update on the Japanese seller mentioned in this thread that's been selling "NSX" ABS units with disabled TCS (i.e. most likely S2000 units). As of late, they are now selling around $140 [LINK] which considering how clean Japanese used parts are, even with shipping is a pretty good deal. For comparison, stateside used units on ebay are selling around $100+tax and look much dirtier/discolored/spattered in appearance [LINK] [LINK] if that matters to you. At least for now, getting an overseas unit with shipping and proxy fees (no tax) is looking to be around $190-$200 (super clean but with no TCS).
 
Hi nsx members,
I have an ABS module 2002 installed in my car, which I bought new in Japan 9 years ago.
Ref: H 4V26-0001-H01
Here I attach photos, sorry but I have it installed and where the reference is is difficult




Also, I recently bought an ABS module in Japan that was sold as TCS removed, it belongs to S2000, I bought it by mistake and I will put it up for sale later because I will never use it
Ref: A OD24-0216 A01

 
Also, I recently bought an ABS module in Japan that was sold as TCS removed, it belongs to S2000, I bought it by mistake and I will put it up for sale later because I will never use it
Ref: A OD24-0216 A01

Thank you for providing that, I've added your NSX ABS serial to the list.

Regarding that S2K ABS you mentioned, interestingly enough it was already in the database as soon as I saw it listed online.
 
FWIW I would not b
Programming. Maybe some internal hardware, but unlikely. We need to find someone who can pull the program out of an NSX or R, and put it into an S2000 modulator.
I looked into this a few years ago. The short answer is that it's not going to happen.

The long answer is that if it were to happen, we would have to find someone willing to invasively extract the programming from a NSX modulator processor, probably a company in China, destroying the chip in the process, then find some PROM variants of the processors to burn the programming onto, then solder those into S2000 modulators. And that is assuming the hardware is 100% identical.
 
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you don't necessarily have to look in China, you can do it in the US. I saw a few specialists at the Defcon Fair - it's a matter of money. I understand that it should be cheaper in China, but not necessarily. What if they read it with errors.
 
Sorry I'm late to this thread, and Thank You for the very helpful & detailed information, but can someone here catch me up to speed a bit...

I have an all original '92 NSX, with 111,XXX miles on it, and I'm only the second owner, but I have EVERY SINGLE maintenance record & receipt on this NSX, am still in touch with my friend, the original owner, and my ABS & TCS both work just fine. However, as with all mechanical & electrical car parts designed by a human, they can eventually wear out and fail. So I'd like to be prepared for if/when that time might come.

My biggest question is, after hearing others post about how NA1 owners should upgrade to the '02 to '05 module, which currently costs major $$$$.

So what is the upgrade, how is the NA2 unit better than the NA1 unit?

Thanks in advance!
 
Nothing to do with NA1 vs. NA2; it is 1990-1999 vs. 2000-2005. An NA2 unit is not the upgraded unit if it came from a 97-99 NA2. TO upgrade, you'll want a unit from 2000-2005, either an NA2 (MT) or NA1 (AT). 2000+ NA1 owners need not upgrade as they already have the upgraded unit. I believe the 2000+ ABS module is NLA from Honda or SOS.

On the other hand, if you're happy with things so far, you can just replace the 1990-1999 unit you have with the same part if it goes bad. I found my 1995 unit (same as yours) was just fine. I didn't notice a huge improvement on my 2001, but you can do a search of threads for other folks opinions.

With respect to the OP question, 2001 USM NSX, Sticker: 57105SL0 010
Embossed Serial #: {large}H 1A31-0690 H01
 
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