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Downforce Carbon Fiber Engine Cover Group Buy

Guys,
The OEM part didn't come yet. I think I will just go ahead and send out the covers with the rod. When the part comes, all you have to do is to attach (2) short bolts so the rod will stay on the cover. I'm going through 2 different dealers and none of them can get it. My guess is Honda is producing them in Japan and will ship them here. When I ordered the harness for the trunklids it was the same case. I ordered 15 harnesses and they only had 2 in the USA and 5 in Japan and the dealer had to submit a request from Honda to produce more.

Now this OEM part is existent on your OEM covers (1991-1999 NON TARGA MODELS). It is easily swapable. If you want to just receive the covers now please call in today 888-313-aero or email [email protected] so we can get them out to you (1-5 on the list). If you would like to wait for the part to arrive I will try to get a date from the dealer and let you guys know soon.

Thanks,
Peter
 
Thanks for the update Peter.

I'm afraid that it might take Acura another month or two to ship it out; therefore, I contacted Ray and asked him to ship it out with the RWG order.
 
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Did anyone received their engine cover?

I received a FedEx email notification on Saturday that the package has been recorded in the system. It had an expected delivery date of today 10/31 in the tracking system. Since it's almost the end of the day, I decided to contact FedEx to speak with a rep. FedEx said they never received a package to deliver from Downforce. :(

I left a voice message at Downforce for Peter and Ben already...
 
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I received the same email notification. My cover was picked up, and transfered to a station, and its in transit.

I bet they just didnt search properly. Are they denying that your tracking number is for a valid package?
 
Thanks BioBanker.

I just checked it again...and it stated that they picked it up today in the Activity log. Before, it just had a "Package data transmitted to FedEx" with a Delivery of today's date. Maybe mine was delay because of the multiple items that I ordered or the date was for them to pick up the item from their warehouse. The FedEx email was very misleading. I had to make special arrangement to my schedule since I was expecting it today. I guess I'll have to make it again....but worth it.

Hooray...I guess I'll be expecting mine soon.

As soon as I get it, I'll take more detail pictures for everyone to see Downforce's quality and workmanship.
 
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Chris FedEx tried to take the package but they rejected because someone printed the label in my office and because it was 90% off from the original size the FedEx scanners could not read them and they didn't take the package. I was notified on Monday about this and had to pickup the package and reprint the label on Tuesday. I set our computers to print 100% scale now so we shouldn't have this simple error. Actually 4 covers shipped out and 2 went out because I printed them and 2 didn't because it was done on another computer.

Sorry about that.
 
We are technically closed this week for SEMA there is no one in the office except for a guy that picks up the phone for messages. I have been in and out of office for the past 2 weeks, awaiting for my second son to be born which is anyday now. Our production side is still open but they do not answer the phone.
 
Congratulation on your second born baby ahead of you!

Thanks Peter for taking the time and the correction! It's all good. The waiting and excitement after receiving the shipment notice on Sat became gloomy at the end today. But, a second rush of joy is anticipated witihin a couple of more days from now. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

nsxpowered said:
Chris FedEx tried to take the package but they rejected because someone printed the label in my office and because it was 90% off from the original size the FedEx scanners could not read them and they didn't take the package. I was notified on Monday about this and had to pickup the package and reprint the label on Tuesday. I set our computers to print 100% scale now so we shouldn't have this simple error. Actually 4 covers shipped out and 2 went out because I printed them and 2 didn't because it was done on another computer.

Sorry about that.
 
Peter,

I got a few questions with the purchase of the engine cover. I can't say that I am 100% satisfied at this point.

First of all, when I placed the order at DF website for this group buy, my selection was:

Weather Strip $49
Window Cover Lexan Smoke $65
Shipping $35
Engine cover $695
Group Buy Discount $-100
Total $744
I just checked the pricing on DF website, and it's exactly the same as when I placed my order.

I received my engine cover today, but found no weather strip. The invoice that came with the engine cover showed:

Engine Cover $595
Lexan Cover Smoked $55
Weather Strip $0
Shipping $95
Total $744

Please explain this discrepancy. I feel a new weather strip should be sent or a refund ($49) should be in order.

The engine cover looked very good, but upon close inspection, I found some some places with poor clear coat job. There are a couple places that I found layers of clear coat.

I believe the lexans are glued to the engine cover and the adhesive used to attach all the lexan windows can totally be seen. The appearence of the adhesive is not from the effect of light. It can be seen under any light conditions. Is this normal?

Please see the attached picutures.


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NSXROC: Sorry about the errors, I been making a lot recently and it's not like I want to make them because it causes losses in shipping for me. I will do as you request. Do you want a refund in the weather strip or do you want me to send you the new one that you should have gotten with your order.

There are 4 people involved in the order and 2 of them are gone when the engine cover was shipped. My fault for trying to rush it and I am not familar with the new software and couldn't verify what your order total is. Shipping is not $95, I will check and make the approriate credits back to your card.

As for the clearcoat, I have no controls over this issue it is done by someone else. In the near future we will be painting our own parts once we fully move into our new facility. Any imperfections can be fixed from sanding, polishing or buffing.

As for the adhesive, it is a super thin mylar tape. The original plan was to use 4 mylar dots per corner, but decided to try to tape the whole seem. This is completely removable so if anyone wanted to change it in the future it can be done easily. If you want I can send you the dots that was originally planned. The problem with what you have is with everyone because when the mylar tape gets bended it can be noticable. I can silicone glue but it will be very difficult to take off if needed in the future. I tried painting the borders black but didn't come out too good because I can't find a company here that wants to paint them. They can't guarantee that the paint won't scratch off, peel from solvents if you clean it with a lexan cleaner, or other abrasions. Let me know what you want to do about this.
enginecovertape.jpg



Thanks for bring this up so more people can discuss what you guys want.

Satisfaction guarantee: If you are not satisfied I will offer you 100% money back including all the shipping cost. I feel bad for the long wait and the problems you are having. If you are not happy, I can not sleep at night because this is not how I want to do business.
 
nsxpowered said:
NSXROC: Sorry about the errors, I been making a lot recently and it's not like I want to make them because it causes losses in shipping for me. I will do as you request. Do you want a refund in the weather strip or do you want me to send you the new one that you should have gotten with your order.

There are 4 people involved in the order and 2 of them are gone when the engine cover was shipped. My fault for trying to rush it and I am not familar with the new software and couldn't verify what your order total is. Shipping is not $95, I will check and make the approriate credits back to your card.

As for the clearcoat, I have no controls over this issue it is done by someone else. In the near future we will be painting our own parts once we fully move into our new facility. Any imperfections can be fixed from sanding, polishing or buffing.

As for the adhesive, it is a super thin mylar tape. The original plan was to use 4 mylar dots per corner, but decided to try to tape the whole seem. This is completely removable so if anyone wanted to change it in the future it can be done easily. If you want I can send you the dots that was originally planned. The problem with what you have is with everyone because when the mylar tape gets bended it can be noticable. I can silicone glue but it will be very difficult to take off if needed in the future. I tried painting the borders black but didn't come out too good because I can't find a company here that wants to paint them. They can't guarantee that the paint won't scratch off, peel from solvents if you clean it with a lexan cleaner, or other abrasions. Let me know what you want to do about this.
enginecovertape.jpg



Thanks for bring this up so more people can discuss what you guys want.

Satisfaction guarantee: If you are not satisfied I will offer you 100% money back including all the shipping cost. I feel bad for the long wait and the problems you are having. If you are not happy, I can not sleep at night because this is not how I want to do business.

Peter,

Thanks for your prompt explanation, but I have a couple more questions

Can the lexan be easily detached from the engine cover? Do you just apply force on the lexan from the backside of the engine cover to detach them from the engine cover?

How difficult is it for me to remove the mylar tapes used on the lexan? Do the just peel right off?

If the above can easily be done, I would like to address the issues myself and save from shipping the engine cover back and forth. Overall, I still think the engine cover is made of great quality, but needs a little finer touch.

Please send me some mylar dots
Please process refund in the amount of $49 back to my credit card.
 
Im pleased with a few things.

Firstly, that Peter is supporting his product so well.

Im also thrilled that I know have confirmation that the cover fits over an Autorotor CTSC. I was worried it wouldnt.

NSXROC, how about covering up the area of the lexan where the tape is? What if you did a really good electrical tape or otherwise job around the perimeter of the lexan, would that take care of the issue? Im guessing that Im going to have the same issue.
Alternatively, since Peter has the templates for the lexan, what if he made pieces that rimmed the lexan out of black frp or cf which we could just stick on with those dots?
 
BioBanker said:
Im pleased with a few things.

Firstly, that Peter is supporting his product so well.

Im also thrilled that I know have confirmation that the cover fits over an Autorotor CTSC. I was worried it wouldnt.

NSXROC, how about covering up the area of the lexan where the tape is? What if you did a really good electrical tape or otherwise job around the perimeter of the lexan, would that take care of the issue? Im guessing that Im going to have the same issue.

I was hoping others could chime in, but I guess I received and installed the first one from the group buy. I don't think black electric tape will do the trick. I think you need to use as little adhesive as possible but make sure the lexan stay on.

Please share your feedback once you have received yours.

Thanks
 
This is what I mean

cover on top of lexan

lexan

glue

CF cover


Why wouldnt that work?

Even if you use a tiny bit of adhesive, and you risk it coming loose, you will probably still have somewhat on an issue because the lexan is transparent. My best guess without knowing exactly what youre talking about is to make the lexan non transparent by covering up the perimeter.
 
NSXROC: Actually the mylar dots will hold the lexan pretty good and will be sufficient. Since that dot is not being stretched out it will be unnoticable. The major problem with covering the whole edge is that once the tape was bending it becomes harder to apply because the release plastic didn't stretch. The lexan cover is not hard to pop off. I will check over the invoice and make sure the shipping is corrected also. Shipping is suppose to be $35.00.

Just put the cover face down on a soft surface like a bed or towel. Then press the lexan covers and it will pop out. The remaining mylar will be stuck on the cf cover and you just hand peel it.


The mylar tape is easy to remove and can be popped out with simple force. It is the only tape I found that won't dry out and cure so it won't get stuck. I really wanted to have the borders painted black but there is no company willing to do it around here. If anyone in the lexan business knows who can do it I would greatly appreciate it. The main problem is the paint being able to scratch off and the lexan needed to be sanded for the paint to stick onto lexan. I noticed the lexan hatches from FAL had some type of soft black paint that melted from solvents and scratched off, so that type of grade is not acceptable.


Thanks for addressing this issue so I can correct it for everyone. Before I send out the covers should I just tape the entire edge? If you don't like it then you can remove it? I will be sending out the dots out in a few days because the leadtime is about 2-3 days for them to cut it out.
 
BioBanker said:
This is what I mean

cover on top of lexan

lexan

glue

CF cover


Why wouldnt that work?

Even if you use a tiny bit of adhesive, and you risk it coming loose, you will probably still have somewhat on an issue because the lexan is transparent. My best guess without knowing exactly what youre talking about is to make the lexan non transparent by covering up the perimeter.


Hi,

I don’t know how good that’s going to look if perimeters (top of lexan) of the lexan is covered with any type of tape. I think worse case scenario is to paint/darken either the top of the bottom of the perimeters of the lexan.
 
Here are some more pictures.

Now, I can see visually what NSXROC is referring to. From a distance, it's hard to tell but I do noticed the adhesive underneath the corner of the lexan if I look closer. I do not know of a solution. But, I think it should look better if the all around corner of the lexan is painted black so that the adhesive would not be visible from the top.

The cover is outstanding with that just one but...

The cover is very light. I would need two people to take off the OEM covers, but I can do it myself with this CF cover.

Hmmm....

 
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NRG said:
Here are some more pictures.

But, I think it should look better if the all around corner of the lexan is painted black so that the adhesive would not be visible from the top.

Haven't seen it just yet but a good paint shop might be able to do just that I hope.. probably cost cheaper in my case compare to the international transportation cost
 
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