2005

[apapada]

I am convinced that there is someone at or near the top at Honda Motor Co. Ltd. for whom the NSX is a high priority, regardless of the lack of financial justification. Otherwise it would have been cancelled long ago.

I don't think you need someone at the top for that. "Hallo cars" still sell today. The same way the Viper sells the Neons, the same way the NSX sells the Civics. Since I got the car (which is completely stock!), I've never received as many thumbs up from the import-highly-modified-rice-rocket community in my entire life. Before it used to be a different finger I was shown, but that's a different story...

 

[apapada]

Re: V6 VS V8

You cannot believe how beautiful that engine sounded -- and unfortunately there is no way to make a V6 sound like that.
Chip

Dont be so sure. I've won a ton of bets from people swearing I have a v8 on the back of my 85 IMSA race car. It DOES sound like a v8, although it's "just" a v6, a turbocharged one that is...

 

[Tom Larkins]

Again, I have been reading (and subscribing to) Car and Driver, Motor Trend, Road & Track, AutoWeek, and Automotive News for over twenty years, and I have not seen any difference in the reliability or timeliness of the reports among any of these publications over the course of those twenty-plus years.

Back to the issue at hand.....I don't read all of those mags, that is why the ? was asked by me about this source and its reliability. It looks as if this is the first real report that tells us something is coming. Concrete proof, NO but its a start given I havn't seen anything in the other above mentioned mags quoted here.

I for one agree that Acura doesn't care about how many they sell of the NSX. Its about showing the rest of the world what they can do with inovation and design. I bought my X with the hopeful optimism they would make another masterpiece in a few years and I could enjoy it while waiting. Personally I don't care if its a v6 or v8, I just want an new gen2, although the same weight w/375hp with a SC option at less than $100k would be nice.

Am I asking for to much!

 

[Nimbus]

here's a 3.5 Liter White w/ black roof....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2428945759&category=5337#mainImage

how do they expect to sell these cars w/out even knowing the particulars...

Hey!! It's this car again!! Can't believe it's up for sale so soon again!

This is indeed the one that originated from Greenwich Acura. It sat there for 2+ years with 2000 miles on it. Then it was sold through Huntington Ridge Motors in NY on Ebay earlier this year. I have personally checked out this car numerous times when it was back at Greenwich.

 

[kgb_agent]

To all you CA NSXers who met the Japanese guy who was the creator of the NSX: what did he have to say about the future of the NSX?? Wouldn't he be the best 1st-hand source so far? What was the purpose of his visit to USA/CA? Why did he spend time with NSX enthusiasts?

hhhhmmmmm....

 

[nsxtasy]

To all you CA NSXers who met the Japanese guy who was the creator of the NSX: what did he have to say about the future of the NSX??

Read the previous topic about his visit. As noted there, he was very tight-lipped about their future plans...

 

[tararan]

so what this mean is that the price of current nsx will depreciate big time...NO?

this car are still limited in numbers so i don't see a reason why it should depreciate with the new one coming out.

 

[kgb_agent]

Read the previous topic about his visit. As noted there, he was very tight-lipped about their future plans...

I did and it didn't yield much information. But a guy from Japan doesn't just accidentally end up roasting weenies on a CA beach with NSX enthusiasts. I was hoping we could read between the lines a little.

 

[mlambert890]

this car are still limited in numbers so i don't see a reason why it should depreciate with the new one coming out.

I agree with this... The NSX has always been such a low production vehicle that I can't really imagine it following the norm pattern when the new model is released.

Also, the goal with the new model will most likely be to capture a much larger owner base. If the new model becomes hugely successful and wins over big time renewed interest in the NSX, that can only be good news for the models that came before (similar to the way all Corvettes get a boost when a new model is well received).

As for the V8 issue, I can't believe I'm hearing "no replacement for displacement" type rumbling on an import forum! For shame!

Personally, I think you don't even need to look at Porsche for an example. The WRX-STi and Evolution VIII are doing *pretty* well at embarassing the big engine crowd and they're using four bangers.

I say stick to the design philosophy that is closest to the Honda core competency and just get the output to what is needed to be competitive.

As for the bitching on web forums; screw it. No matter what Honda does, there will always be vocal detractors. The internet is filled with armchair critics who never really do anything other than find fault with everything.

 

[princxixor]

I am convinced that there is someone at or near the top at Honda Motor Co. Ltd. for whom the NSX is a high priority, regardless of the lack of financial justification.

Even given that this is just idle speculation, this statement really warms my heart. Make one feel that all is right in the world.

 

[NetViper]

The WRX-STi and Evolution VIII are doing *pretty* well at embarassing the big engine crowd and they're using four bangers.

But they have had to go FI to compete with the big engine crowd. Most people want the NSX to stay NA.

 

[mlambert890]

They're FI, but they're also 4 cylinders. Look at the 911 GT3... Thats a NA 6 that is seriously quick... 0-60 in 4 and a half, 190 top speed, serious track contender.

If Honda could top Porsches effort (and I know the can - Porsche is excellent, but I think Honda is better), they could produce a NA 6 that outperforms the GT3. That would be a world beating accomplishment in itself and would put the NSX in F360 territory.

 

[MAJOR STONER]

No news of a new NSX but...

NSX Earns Stay Of Execution

"Fans of Honda's NSX will be relieved to learn the company has granted the ageing supercar a stay of execution until 2005.
Its longer life means there could be a limited-edition version, with the current 3.2-litre V6 VTEC rebored to 3.5 litres - increasing the output to 330bhp. The model could also offer Type R concept-style bodywork, as well as a mildly revised interior."

Article from: Auto Express

 

[wctsao]

"TL: The New York auto show concept car is the redesigned 2004 sedan. The engine is said to be a 3.4-liter V-6 with more power than the 260-hp, 3.2-liter Type S engine in the 2003 model."

For those that may not have known, Autoweek posted a test on the 2004 TL (which was quickly taken down because it was suppose to be posted sometime later).

ClubRSX grabbed it before it went down.

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1471566

 

[Tom Larkins]

Re: No news of a new NSX but...

NSX Earns Stay Of Execution

"Fans of Honda's NSX will be relieved to learn the company has granted the ageing supercar a stay of execution until 2005.

Article from: Auto Express

Am I the only one that gets sick of hearing this from the rags. They speak of the NSX as if it needs to be put to death yet these same folks that spew this verbal slop will call the 911 design a decades-old classic.

"I spit in the writers general direction"

 

[MarkB]

Re: Re: No news of a new NSX but...

"I spit in the writers general direction"

Agreed.

Sometimes, I think the rag writers don't know a sports car from a jeep.

 

[NetViper]

Re: No news of a new NSX but...

NSX Earns Stay Of Execution

"Fans of Honda's NSX will be relieved to learn the company has granted the ageing supercar a stay of execution until 2005.
Its longer life means there could be a limited-edition version, with the current 3.2-litre V6 VTEC rebored to 3.5 litres - increasing the output to 330bhp. The model could also offer Type R concept-style bodywork, as well as a mildly revised interior."

Article from: Auto Express

I think the car needs more than 330HP to compete with 405 HP Zo6's..

I think it is funny when they talk about a limited-edition car. They only make like 200 NSX's a year... they are all limited-editions IMO

 

[princxixor]

Re: Re: No news of a new NSX but...

Am I the only one that gets sick of hearing this from the rags. They speak of the NSX as if it needs to be put to death yet these same folks that spew this verbal slop will call the 911 design a decades-old classic.

I have to disagree here. The NSX *is* an ageing supercar. It's just a remarkably exceptional supercar that has aged rather gracefully. Name one other 13 year old sports car half as good!?!

I'd much rather take the criticism the automotive press "spews" as a call-to-arms for Honda to redesign the NSX in much the same fashion that Porsche has with the 911. After all, the 911 faithfully reproduces the look and feel of its brethren, while staying on the cutting edge of design.

And likewise, the next-gen NSX should pay homage to its predecessor while updating the design, engine, and chassis to clobber the GT3.

 

[Sketch]

Here are the major planned changes in the lineup by model year.

2004: RSX freshened, TSX debuts, TL redesign
2005: RL redesigned, NSX restyled & re-engineered
2006: RSX redesigned, MDX redesigned
2007: RD-X Sport wagon debuts

Anyone else notice that the NSX says restyled and re-engineered, while most of the others say redesigned?

I wonder if that means restyling (again? Or would 2002 be considered a freshening?) and mechanical enhancements (insert your favorite future engine here), while the chassis remains basically the same...

 

[s2ktaxi]

I think Honda is holding off on a new NSX until they start doing better in F1.

 

[nsxtasy]

Anyone else notice that the NSX says restyled and re-engineered, while most of the others say redesigned?

I have no idea what the difference is between the two.

 

[apapada]

I have no idea what the difference is between the two.

In theory, one could redesign something without restyling it, nor re-engineering it. This said however, I would expect someone who redesigns something to have it reengineered and/or restyled it first (order depends on which school of thought one belongs to: the form following the function or the opposite.)