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I can't believe that you guys don't know that Hella make bulbs and HID kit for Phillips.
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Super Xenon
Yeah, but I believe the point is that you are posting a pic of his car, without his consent, to use as advertisement for your product. And what he has on his car isn't even what you're selling. Give it up man, you already lost all credibility here.
Any pics of the install for the science of speed HID kit?
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Originally posted by Darkcyd:
Yeah, but I believe the point is that you are posting a pic of his car, without his consent, to use as advertisement for your product. And what he has on his car isn't even what you're selling. Give it up man, you already lost all credibility here.
Believe it or not, that's up to you. If you want to pay more and get less, thats not my problem. Its your money.
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Super Xenon
Originally posted by Darkcyd:
Yeah, but I believe the point is that you are posting a pic of his car, without his consent, to use as advertisement for your product. And what he has on his car isn't even what you're selling. Give it up man, you already lost all credibility here.
EXACTLY.
The beauty of the ScienceofSpeed kit is that once it is installed, there is almost nothing to see. I'll try to look for an installed kit with the headlight covers replaced.
here is a comparison: http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/exterior_performance_products/NSX/ScienceofSpeed/HID_System/Image006a.jpg
Trader... you have it mixed up, Phillips is the OE supplier to Hella as well as the supplier to most of the OE automobile manufactures.
One of my favorite HID dictionary sites is back online: http://www.intellexual.net/hid.htm
Here's a quote:
Here is a 8000K HID kit conversion installed on a GS400 (a1exus) with typical poor cut-off and severe color bleeding above and around the cut-off line, and even in the shadows of the railings. This is just one example of blue light's large wavelength. All the light above the poorly defined cut-off can be translated into "glare" by other motorists.
Here is an OEM HID retrofit with sharp, clean cut-off as well as sharp defined beam pattern. The very well defined bounds are created by properly engineered optics used in their intended design. This is a perfect ECE-spec beam pattern. Notice that only the driver-side headlight is on.
Here's a picture of the blinding glare other motorists must endure from these plug-and-play 8000K HID kits. Both photos are taken at a standing position. Imagine how bad the view would be to a motorist sitting in a car eye-level with the light beam.
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Revolutionize your NSX with ScienceofSpeed
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here is a comparison: http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/exterior_performance_products/NSX/ScienceofSpeed/HID_System/Image006a.jpg
Trader... you have it mixed up, Phillips is the OE supplier to Hella as well as the supplier to most of the OE automobile manufactures.
One of my favorite HID dictionary sites is back online: http://www.intellexual.net/hid.htm
Here's a quote:
Here is a 8000K HID kit conversion installed on a GS400 (a1exus) with typical poor cut-off and severe color bleeding above and around the cut-off line, and even in the shadows of the railings. This is just one example of blue light's large wavelength. All the light above the poorly defined cut-off can be translated into "glare" by other motorists.
Here is an OEM HID retrofit with sharp, clean cut-off as well as sharp defined beam pattern. The very well defined bounds are created by properly engineered optics used in their intended design. This is a perfect ECE-spec beam pattern. Notice that only the driver-side headlight is on.
Here's a picture of the blinding glare other motorists must endure from these plug-and-play 8000K HID kits. Both photos are taken at a standing position. Imagine how bad the view would be to a motorist sitting in a car eye-level with the light beam.
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Revolutionize your NSX with ScienceofSpeed
www.ScienceofSpeed.com | [email protected] | 877-863-4520
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ScienceofSpeed,
I have PHILIPS LVQ 212 ballast right next to me now. Its made by Hella. Anybody who owns a German car knows that some of their lamps will print Hella on it. Never heard of any German car use Phillips. Also, stop post those useless comparisons. 3500 Lumens is brighter than 3200 Lumens no matter what you say. So quite lying to all NSX owners here.
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Super Xenon
I have PHILIPS LVQ 212 ballast right next to me now. Its made by Hella. Anybody who owns a German car knows that some of their lamps will print Hella on it. Never heard of any German car use Phillips. Also, stop post those useless comparisons. 3500 Lumens is brighter than 3200 Lumens no matter what you say. So quite lying to all NSX owners here.
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Super Xenon
Well since you are seems to know what your talking about,how much are you selling your kits for? does provide a clean installation and the one from Criss??
trader: I'll ask again since you ignored my first post. You claim that MotionR's kit is 3500 lumens, how does MotionR extract an extra 300 lumens out of a standard 3200 lumen Hella bulb. Were you measuring from a higher standpoint of measure, what was the candela output according to your light meter? Since this is directed at the kit you support, I think you should have an adequate answer for us.
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Your question is nonsense. Hella has 3500 lumens and Phillips has 3200 lumens. If you want to know how, you should ask Hella.
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Super Xenon
Well, if MotionR (topdaytrader) can claim to illustrate its lighting using another vendor's HID kit - without the car owner's permission, no less - why can't they claim that they get 3500 lumens out of a 3200 lumen bulb?
[This message has been edited by nsxtasy (edited 01 October 2002).]
Originally posted by nsxtasy:
Well, if MotionR (topdaytrader) can claim to illustrate its lighting using another vendor's HID kit - without the car owner's permission, no less - why can't they claim that they get 3500 lumens out of a 3200 lumen bulb?They probably also claim that their HID system can save fuel via a direct interface with the Tornado Fuel Saver and the electric supercharger.
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hahaha
toptrader,are you gona awnser to the questions?
<sigh> Phillips/Hella/XENARC (Sylvania/Osram) all have a manufacture's rating of 3200 maximum lumens for their HID retro. bulbs (BTW. Xenarc/Osram actually has a 2600 lumens rating for their 5400K kit, their 4100K kit is rated at 3200 lumens). All I am asking is that you provide proof that the HELLA bulbs you use in your kit has 3500 lumens.
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I dont't really think this guys has an awnser for you.
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Yes, the Hella HID kit does come with 9006 or H1 basing (Plug and play, so there's no wiring cutting, no end cap or spring clip modification). Which aftermarket HID doesnt? Chris make it sound like he has something special. He might fool ppl that doesnt know about HIDs, but its not a right way to do business.
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Super Xenon
Anyone who knows anything about the HID conversion for an NSX knows that existing kits in the marketplace require some modification in order to work with our cars. As trader claims that there is no difference and that the features provided in the SoS kit are unimportant, it's obvious that he has no clue about the installation process on the NSX. For that matter he doesn't seem to have a clue about much else either.
I don't know why we're even bothering talking about this any further. It's plain to see that this guy doesn't have any useful information. He can't even come back with a single statement with relevant information. One word: RETARDED.
I don't know why we're even bothering talking about this any further. It's plain to see that this guy doesn't have any useful information. He can't even come back with a single statement with relevant information. One word: RETARDED.
I just wanted to see what chris have to say about topdaytrader last statement.either way I heard only but good things about sos kit
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Can you explain what needs to be modiify? We installed one in our customer's 94 NSX. It only took about 30 mins. I think the only thing you need to modify is your brain. LOL
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Super Xenon
You said you installed in 30 minutes. Did you use the factory dust cap with no modifications? Most if not all HID retrofits will not fit "as is" with the OEM dust cap.
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"Can you explain what needs to be modiify? We installed one in our customer's 94 NSX. It only took about 30 mins. I think the only thing you need to modify is your brain. LOL"
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"Can you explain what needs to be modiify? We installed one in our customer's 94 NSX. It only took about 30 mins. I think the only thing you need to modify is your brain. LOL"
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