I'm just curious here what the NSX prime community thinks of Porsches. I can never stop thinking of the next car I would like to own and I've lately started learning about Porsche 993 911's, specifically the C4S. It looks like a pretty bullet proof car with the only drawback being cost to maintain (I talked with one knowledgeable owner). Anyone out there have opinions either way or owned one?
What do you all think of Porsches??
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I like Porsches but have never owned one and may never.
dnyhof said:
I currently own a 993TT and I like its brute force power but I like driving my '00 NSX better.
I think if you are looking at 993's I would go with the twin turbo, why have a car that looks like the turbo but doesn't perform as well? If the price difference is the reason, wait until you can afford the turbo, they hold their value better also.
my dad has been a porsche guy all his life. i really dont remember how many hes had, 7(?) or something. his latest was a 1985 911. beautiful car. sure the clutch was long and kind of stiff, the gearbox was sloppy and the shifts were long, the a/c was terrible, seemed like it took forever to warm up, stereo sucked and i could go on, but when it came to handling it was amazing. it accelerated smoothly and the handling, did i mention that? in his nsx i can get on it around a corner and the TCS limits my fun, the 911 just seemed like it powered through the corner. i might be more agressive with the nsx than the 911 though. porsches, like all german cars have one things nsx's lack.....torque. its similar to the nsx where it has a really good top end and what not, but she got moving from the start if you wanted it to. ill try to find the video of his 911 in a minute. but enough of my incoherant rambling. my dad was originally going to buy a 993 targa, but the nsx changed his mind. i got the chance to drive a 993 but only around a neighborhood so i cant give a tiff needell review of it. ive never gotten to drive/ride in a 996 yet. the 993 wasnt that insanely impressive, i didnt get that undescribable rush of fun/fear/adrenaline/excitement that i did when i drove my dads 85, dont really get it in the nsx either.. i like the "cockpit" of the nsx better than the 993, seats are much nicer and seems more user friendly like you'd expect from honda. the 911, pre 996, seem to be utilitarian, if thats the word. i guess what im trying to say is the interior isnt what sells the car.
but if I owned a nsx, i think the next car i would shoot for would be a 996 turbo. its been my all time favorite. porsche has been my favorite car company and i would love to own one some day.
i think the 993 c4s would be a nice car to go with next, like the turbo without the power and some of the exterior stuff. just go drive one if you havent yet. like i said, i didnt get a chance to really drive it so i cant really compare. one thing i really like is how the interior in the 993 still has the older porsches gauges and such. i like how the tach is the biggest gauge and is in the middle, no fancy digital stuff. but i could talk porsches all day but this will be too long and ive got hw to do.
but if I owned a nsx, i think the next car i would shoot for would be a 996 turbo. its been my all time favorite. porsche has been my favorite car company and i would love to own one some day.
i think the 993 c4s would be a nice car to go with next, like the turbo without the power and some of the exterior stuff. just go drive one if you havent yet. like i said, i didnt get a chance to really drive it so i cant really compare. one thing i really like is how the interior in the 993 still has the older porsches gauges and such. i like how the tach is the biggest gauge and is in the middle, no fancy digital stuff. but i could talk porsches all day but this will be too long and ive got hw to do.
I have been a life long diehard Porsche guy. Have had four Carreras so far. Currently have a 1989 Cab. Very simple and crude compared with the NSX. But I like that primitive old sport car feel. The NSX is better in EVERY way but the old Carrera gives me nostalgia.
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Same here, they don't really do anything for me. But i like tastefully modified (to me) ones with aftermarket rims, then i do a double take.
I always have been a Porsche fan but never owned one. I thought of a C4S before I bought my 91 but I got to good of a deal on the NSX. If there was a Porsche I would take a GT3 hands down. Heck look at there racing history they are always there at the end of any endurance race.
At the risk of negative reputation points, i'll express my honest opinion.... 
I used to HATE Porsches. Then one of my best mates turned into a Porsche nut and I had check my attitude. I've come to appreciate and respect Porsche for their performance and engineering. Plus maybe I've grown up -- if People want to buy a Porsche, that's okay... who really cares what i think? People could certainly make worse buying choices.
But I would never consider buying one. With the exception of the Carrera GT and the occassional 911 Turbo, Porsche's don't do anything for me. I can talk about them and appreciate their power, but they don't ring my bell. I see a Honda, it turns my head. I see a boxster, i turn my head... to check out the civic behind it.
It's personal preference.
edit: just joking with that bit about me growing up.
I used to HATE Porsches. Then one of my best mates turned into a Porsche nut and I had check my attitude. I've come to appreciate and respect Porsche for their performance and engineering. Plus maybe I've grown up -- if People want to buy a Porsche, that's okay... who really cares what i think? People could certainly make worse buying choices.
But I would never consider buying one. With the exception of the Carrera GT and the occassional 911 Turbo, Porsche's don't do anything for me. I can talk about them and appreciate their power, but they don't ring my bell. I see a Honda, it turns my head. I see a boxster, i turn my head... to check out the civic behind it.
It's personal preference.
edit: just joking with that bit about me growing up.
I love to own a Porsche, but I really don't know how to work on them, therefore, it's NSX for me. maybe one day when I am rich, and can afford to have SOMEONE else to work on my car, I will get a Porsche, The New 997' s looks sweet!
I'm not a Porsche guy either but I have driven a 00' Boxster and 02' 996 Cab that were owned by a friend..
Boxster is fun but like a Miata... too many on the road and not powerful enough for being a Porsche.
The 996 is an amazing car.. really woke me up to what Porsches are all about and now I have mad respect for them but the styling doesn't do it for me and there are just too many on the road.. I think I see as many Porsches as Corvettes on a daily basis..
Boxster is fun but like a Miata... too many on the road and not powerful enough for being a Porsche.
The 996 is an amazing car.. really woke me up to what Porsches are all about and now I have mad respect for them but the styling doesn't do it for me and there are just too many on the road.. I think I see as many Porsches as Corvettes on a daily basis..
95NSXT said:
you do know you can turn off the TCS, right??
The only thing I DON'T Like about porsches is they're slowly turning into a "me too" car. Everyone seems to have a porsche...whether its a boxster, a 911 C4, a 996...
I still think a 996TT is one of the nicer sports cars on the road!!! Blast to drive!!
Brian2by2 said:
"Me too" yes if your 1999+ model years, they are all over the place b/c they were mass produced. The 993 (95-98) air cooled wide bodies are timeless. Primative, crued, whatever....they are a car of differing character. The carguy is right, the a-cooled twin turbo is classic, I just bought one a month ago.
Tom Larkins said:
thats my favorite p-car!!!
Brian2by2 said:
yeh i kow you can turn the TCS off. i really need to start revising my posts. i was trying to say that the nsx seemed more "squirrely" the back in kicks out easier. i think ive got too many things on my mind right now to write clear posts.
and i do agree, the 993 is probably the nicest body style porsche, 2nd only on occasion to the 996, i have my days when i favor one over the other. ive heard lots of people thought the 996's were girly because the w/c engines werent as throaty a/c engines before and they wanted their 993's back. but now they have things like porsche sound and yadayada so i guess that can take care of that.
dime a dozen...
if I am going to have a fun car(over 70K), I don't want a car everyone has...I go for low prod & unique cars.
NSX, Z8, Toyota 2000GT
if I am going to have a fun car(over 70K), I don't want a car everyone has...I go for low prod & unique cars.
NSX, Z8, Toyota 2000GT
thiers a million differnet kinds of porsches you rarely see. how about a gt2 or a gt3 shit i dont even see many 911(996) turbos around. but their are plenty over 70,000 that you never see or rarely see how many carrera gts have you ever seen?? but my favorite porsche, only 250 made 959 baby 450 hp NON TURBO six cylinder top speed 197 mph oh ya it was made in 1987 and 1988. the thing i love about porsche the most though is there racing history03 raw nsx said:dime a dozen...
if I am going to have a fun car(over 70K), I don't want a car everyone has...I go for low prod & unique cars.
NSX, Z8, Toyota 2000GT
I like Porsches so much I went out and bought a 99 Cab, Guards Red, full aerokit, sport exhaust......exactly 1 month after I sold my NSX to 95NSXT who posted earlier. Man, is my wife pissed - the whole reason I sold the NSX is to use that $$$ for house stuff, but I just couldn't resist. And while I loved the NSX, the Porsche is just more "me". Maybe the cabriolet has something to do with that...
BTW, I don't see nearly as many 911s running around as people seem to think, and when I do, they still turn my head.
No need to flame - if you are a true car enthusiast, you appreciate all types of great sports cars, and there is no denying the fact that the 911 is a great car, as is the NSX. Check out Automobile magazine, where they ranked the 911 as the 2nd coolest car ever, behind the mid-year big block Vette.
BTW, I don't see nearly as many 911s running around as people seem to think, and when I do, they still turn my head.
No need to flame - if you are a true car enthusiast, you appreciate all types of great sports cars, and there is no denying the fact that the 911 is a great car, as is the NSX. Check out Automobile magazine, where they ranked the 911 as the 2nd coolest car ever, behind the mid-year big block Vette.
W said:
I concur.
Porsche's make great getaway cars and are quite easy to rebirth. That's my opinion.
jgtcnsx said:but my favorite porsche, only 250 made 959 baby 450 hp NON TURBO six cylinder top speed 197 mph oh ya it was made in 1987 and 1988.
Actually, the 959 was a twin turbo all wheel drive car. It was not naturally aspirated. I loved it at the time but the styling doesn't do it for me now though.
Here's the specs:
Horizontally opposed 6 cylinder, 24-valve DOHC aluminum block and water-cooled heads
Bore and stroke: 3.74" x 2.64"
Displacement:174 cu.in. or 2849cc
Max boost pressure: 14.0 psi
Horsepower: 450@6,500 rpm
Power to weight ratio: 6.6 lbs per horsepower
Compression ratio: 8.3:1
Cd: .31
Fuel system: Bosch Motronic
Induction: Twin sequential turbocharging
From this site:
http://erntheburn.tripod.com/autos/959/9596.htm
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I forgot to add this major contribution:
<B>PORSCHE's SCORE CHICKS!!!</B>
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<B>PORSCHE's SCORE CHICKS!!!</B>
As illustrated by this stud:
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since when is William (she bangs) Hung the new benchmark for STUD.
since when is William (she bangs) Hung the new benchmark for STUD.
That's ME in that picture!!!!!! Did my girlfriends leave it in your house?NeoNSX said:I forgot to add this major contribution:
<B>PORSCHE's SCORE CHICKS!!!</B>
As illustrated by this stud:
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whitensx, if it's really YOU in the pic, I'll just bite off my lip n not say anything I was going to say.
The advantage of the nsx is that you can pick up one good looking companion instead of 3 _ _ _ _ bit..es.... j/k.
back to the P question, I too think the 993 turbo is sweet, yet I believed I watched enough racings that my most favorite went to GT3, I liked the 996 lights (hate the turbo one), the body kit and the double wing at the back, I also like the interior pieces having the more updated look of it, even though I've heard many complaints about it's being cheap... I'm not exactly sure how much those race prep'ed GT3's running now? But years ago, I remembered that if you would like to go real racing, getting a Porsche is cheaper than most other cars, just because there are so many racing parts and so many differernt companies and teams out there. (just simple Supply and Demand) and there's a lot of parts is interchangeable thougout it's 26 yrs lifespan...etc. I guessed these all changed after the 996 debut...
Oh btw, on the 959, I always have a sour feeling when I look at it, I remember back then when I was like 10, 11 yrs old, the 959 is the coolest. In the last 5 years, whenever I see one, I felt like it built like a kit car, well a poor built kit car however its funtional....
The advantage of the nsx is that you can pick up one good looking companion instead of 3 _ _ _ _ bit..es....
j/k.back to the P question, I too think the 993 turbo is sweet, yet I believed I watched enough racings that my most favorite went to GT3, I liked the 996 lights (hate the turbo one), the body kit and the double wing at the back, I also like the interior pieces having the more updated look of it, even though I've heard many complaints about it's being cheap... I'm not exactly sure how much those race prep'ed GT3's running now? But years ago, I remembered that if you would like to go real racing, getting a Porsche is cheaper than most other cars, just because there are so many racing parts and so many differernt companies and teams out there. (just simple Supply and Demand) and there's a lot of parts is interchangeable thougout it's 26 yrs lifespan...etc. I guessed these all changed after the 996 debut...
Oh btw, on the 959, I always have a sour feeling when I look at it, I remember back then when I was like 10, 11 yrs old, the 959 is the coolest. In the last 5 years, whenever I see one, I felt like it built like a kit car, well a poor built kit car however its funtional....
