The Official 2011 F1 Thread....Now That 2010 is Over

Re: Kimi; he makes me laugh just standing there

That frozen blank stare just screams "I don't know what I want, so quit asking me." :mad:

Really, I have a hard time caring about him and what he might or might not do, never mind what he might think. If he comes back and does great things, that will do the talking. But since I don't watch ralley and barely care about him doing well in a truck tonight, he's just a non-issue. I can't think of a more boring person to interview. :rolleyes:

Give him a beer and a few friends left over from high school and I'll bet he's happy.
 
Re: What goes around............

Well, here we are, back to .......what? 2002? When one guy (Schumi) dominated everything and everyone sat around and waited for the track to "rubber in". Lots of empty track til the last couple of minutes of a single long Q session. Which brought on knock out qualifying and rules to level the playing field.

Now, we're up to 2011 and we're back to one guy (Vettel) dominating and everyone once again avoiding track time. Knock out Q isn't working quite so well now. Guess they'll have to make up some more rules.

Well, let's see,..........Heidfeld's starting DFL so it will be interesting to see how well the rubber saving strategy works for him. :wink: Nick's got a bunch of fresh rubber to burn. Oh, wait, he already literally burned up one set. :redface: But he's got a good car under him to penetrate the field, so it should be a good test to compare with what Webber did earlier.

I wouldn't want to be an odds-maker on F-1 right now. No telling who could finish 2nd thru 12th. :tongue:
 
Interesting race. Alonzo was driving his gibblets off for the first 2 stints, but the car faded badly.

Hamilton is driving well, and the car needs just a bit more.

Maybe at Monaco next week the Red Bull's advantage will be minimized on the street and someone will step up.

Miner
 
Excellent result by McLaren.

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Re: Tires, some strategy..........

and a few other variables thrown in makes it all very hard to follow.

Well, let's see,..........Heidfeld's starting DFL so it will be interesting to see how well the rubber saving strategy works for him. Nick's got a bunch of fresh rubber to burn. Oh, wait, he already literally burned up one set. But he's got a good car under him to penetrate the field, so it should be a good test to compare with what Webber did earlier.

Tires continue to be the dominent issue this year; no doubt. Heidfeld starts 24th and is about to pass Rosberg on the last lap for 7th after Ros started 7th. How does that make Rosberg and Ross Brawn feel when the Renault is their midpack rivels. Relatively speaking, he duplicated what Webber did earlier.

And the complex, ever changing strategy; Hobbsy had to coin a phrase, "strategician" in describing all the variables. I don't know about you guys; maybe you've got instant recall or a super computer at your disposal, but I'm sitting there sorting thru the few variables I can keep track of and compute just like the old days. But I don't know who's on options and how old they are......etc. And with all the pit stops and tire variations, I can't possibly have a clue who's racing who and who's really ahead and the odds that they'll stay ahead.

And Hobbsy, Matchett and Buxton don't either. It's time that Speed brought in a few actual race strategicians and tried to duplicate the thinking of the team managers sitting on the pit wall and changing the actual strategy. The show needs to better lay out the likely strategies as they play out lap by lap. If they don't the old guard will lose interest, because right now, it's still a chess game but we can't see the board.
 
I think the strategy is to make sure your driver has the right tires to pass those opponents that he must pass, and that must take place when they are on either worn out tires or on a slower set of mandatory-use tires.
 
It was interesting to see that the DRS did not work today. I thought Hamilton would breeze past Vettel at the end of the straight, but the Red Bull had just enough KERS to keep in front. Brilliant drive by both front runners today!

From my vantage point it would seem that Webber didn't have KERS all day? He got of the line cleanly enough, but the run down to the first corner made it obvious that there was something missing I thought.
 
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Wonderful quote from BBC's F1 website:
McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh said the fact both Hamilton and Button have won at Monaco added to the team's chances of success in the principality.

"We've seen both Lewis and Jenson do great jobs there, they love Monaco, we've won it 14 times and we'd like to do it again," he said.
Except, last year, Red Bull won at Monaco with Mark Webber.
 
It was interesting to see that the DRS did not work today. I thought Hamilton would breeze past Vettel at the end of the straight, but the Red Bull had just enough KERS to keep in front. Brilliant drive by both front runners today!

From my vantage point it would seem that Webber didn't have KERS all day? He got of the line cleanly enough, but the run down to the first corner made it obvious that there was something missing I thought.


Well, an observation was made that before the last (ie front) straight, Vettel was opening an lead yet again after Hamilton closed in in the middle sections. Perhaps Vettel is indeed at getting on the gas earlier in turns and perhaps he was using wherever KERS he had. Not sure why Hamilton would not use KERS there too given that the last turn appeared to be his handicap.
 
Great race by Button after having a bad start. I was praying for Vettel/Hamilton to take each other out! :tongue: I was nervous when Webber was a couple seconds behind him on fresher tires, but Webber just faded away.

Speaking of fading away, Alonso had a magnificent start, fighting for the lead, but ended being lapped by the end of the race!? :eek::confused:

Happy for the Sauber boys, came home with some points.
 
You are right Ferrari was dissapointment today but at least first 20 laps was nice to watch for me.Today's start of Alonso was beautyfull.
BBC re-played Alonso's start over and over again, both from helicopter view and cockpit view, and I agree with you, it was beautiful driving. I feel an emotional rush every time I see that clip.
 
OK, so he can pass non competitive cars when he has better tires.
Miner

Actually he passed them on strategy, not on the road.

But the popular myth that Button can't pass is only held by those who do not know nor understand F1. Button unlike many in F1 knows when to pass, and when not too. There is a difference. Just think of the numerous passing manouvours he has taken in the last two years on his current teammate - someone he trusts to do the right thing in a passing situation.

Still haven't forgiven him for the kamikaze try at Spa 2000 where he took out Trulli in the Jordon Mugen-Honda on the first lap :biggrin: But at least he did learn the difference between a high percentage pass, and a kamakazi banzi effort :biggrin:
 
Actually he passed them on strategy, not on the road.

But the popular myth that Button can't pass is only held by those who do not know nor understand F1. Button unlike many in F1 knows when to pass, and when not too. There is a difference. Just think of the numerous passing manouvours he has taken in the last two years on his current teammate - someone he trusts to do the right thing in a passing situation.

Still haven't forgiven him for the kamikaze try at Spa 2000 where he took out Trulli in the Jordon Mugen-Honda on the first lap :biggrin: But at least he did learn the difference between a high percentage pass, and a kamakazi banzi effort :biggrin:

We shall, sir, disagree on the matter.

Miner
 
If McLaren's KERS system has ultracapacitors, then they'll be at a significant advantage in Monaco, since there's so much more braking there compared to the other tracks.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2011/5/12075.html

JB says:
“There’s been some suggestion that KERS Hybrid might not provide a useful lap-time benefit around Monaco, because you might think you couldn’t really exploit it to give you a boost onto a straight. But our simulations suggest that it’s worth as much at Monaco as it is pretty much anywhere else, which is another positive because I think that the Mercedes-Benz unit is the best in Formula One.”
http://www.ultracapacitors.org/index.php?option=com_content&Itemid=57&id=37&task=view
An advantage of the ultracapacitor is their super fast rate of charge and discharge... which is determined solely by their physical properties. A battery relies on a slower chemical reaction for energy.

A disadvantage of an ultracapacitor is that currently they store a smaller amount of energy than a battery does.
 
Re: Freddy's version of slide guitar

He can play a car like an instrument. Unlike, Seb, he'll be a worthy replacement for Schumi because he's the guy you love to hate. :wink:

$ for $ (# for #) he's currently the best driver out there. Should be a 3x champion.
I don't dislike Seb but I think Fred is better. Plus he's not afraid to pass.
Miner
 
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