The Official 2010 F1 Megathread

Ken is'nt more than that:confused:
 
Re: Vettel needed more

Ken is'nt more than that? :confused:
It's more than 50, more like 100, but I just don't recall now.

Sad that Vettel lost the race because he didn't have enough. I guess the question is, did they just not fill him up or is the Red Bull fuel tank too small? That would be egg on Newey's face forever. :redface:
 
I thought it was between 50 to 55 gallons, depending on the circuit of course.

But I heard Matchett mention that they had 55 gal. fuel bladders.

That's a lot of weight! :eek:

YMMV
 
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Re: Got me: 62 is close to 55

It's more than 50, more like 100, but I just don't recall now.
I see that the rules say the tank (bladder) is now 235 ltrs (62 gal) up from 120 ltrs (32 gal) last year. I am surprised they are getting close to 3 mpg when I barely get 5 mpg. And their gas is not all that dissimilar to ours. Kind of brings new meaning to the phrase "high tech."

Edit: at least I'm not the Virgin Racing designer who made the tank too small. :tongue: With VR having to half-step with a higher fuel milage, maybe HRT won't be DFL if they can somehow finish the next 3 races. :rolleyes:

These new teams are going to be entertining for quite some time. :smile:
 
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Re: Good news from Australia?

Maybe this race will have some drama. The "Division 3" new teams are now within 7 seconds of pole time. And HRT ran a full 10 laps without breaking. :smile: So, they just might do their job of being rolling chicanes? :tongue:

And maybe we'll see some different strategies work. They said FI were planning to be on hard tires to start the race. Don't know if that's actually the case. But Merc is confirmed to be on hard tires, as they are betting that the softs will work best late in the race when it's cool. Just might work since, if not for requirement of starting on (typically softer) Q tires, I think a later first pit stop strategy still has some value. So, my man Adrian may well be up in the points and ahead of Rubens and Robert. And with some luck, ahead of Merc too. Well, it's something to watch for while Red Bull and the Red Cars run away with it. :rolleyes:
 
failure, not fuel...

Sad that Vettel lost the race because he didn't have enough [fuel]. I guess the question is, did they just not fill him up or is the Red Bull fuel tank too small? That would be egg on Newey's face forever. :redface:
It wasn't a fuel volume issue that took Vettel off the pace in/following lap #33 at Bahrain; it was originally reported to be a cracked exhaust manifold that deprived him of power, but later confirmed to be a spark plug failure.

Reference: http://en.espnf1.com/bahrain/motorsport/story/11380.html?CMP=OTC-RSS
 
Re: Vettel's problem

^^^^^
Agreed, it now seems to be accepted that it was a mechanical problem especially since Webber was pushing all the way to the end and most importantly, the car sounded horrible. But Ron Dennis' speculation about fuel made sense since Vettell picked the pace back up when required to stay ahead of both Rosberg and Schumi both of whom were clearly expected to pass him.
 
Red Bull front row with Button splitting the two Ferraris in 4th, go Button!
The Hamster in 11th....

Good ol' Rubinho in 8th place, great qual in a Cossie powered car.
 
Red Bull front row with Button splitting the two Ferraris in 4th, go Button!
The Hamster in 11th....

Good ol' Rubinho in 8th place, great qual in a Cossie powered car.
Go Jenson! I hope he does well.

Looks as though Red Bull might be hiding something.

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/12618.html

McLaren's Martin Whitmarsh has suggested Red Bull's car might be hiding a controversial driver-adjustable ride-height system, after the two RB6s dominated qualifying in Melbourne.

The difference between a car laden with fuel for the start of the race and one running on fumes in qualifying is so great that the weight of the petrol physically alters the height of the car. This means most teams have to run the car relatively high in qualifying, at a disadvantage, in order to compensate for the weight of the full tank needed to start the race. But during qualifying on Saturday, on-board footage from Mark Webber's Red Bull appeared to show the car occasionally bottoming-out.

McLaren boss Whitmarsh told the BBC after the session that, following a similar situation in Bahrain, he wondered why the Red Bulls were not "dragging their arses on full tanks" in the race. He said it is "evidence of ride-height control systems" being in use, "which many people wouldn't have thought were permissible".

In the wake of last year's diffuser row, and the McLaren F-duct saga in Bahrain, F1 could now be set for its next technical controversy. Whitmarsh said McLaren is now "working quite hard" on implementing a Red Bull-like ride-height system, and "hopefully by China we'll have something on the car".
 
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41 yo shumi still has the fast twitch fibers and buttocks gyroscopes of the 20 yo's. Glad to see jenson outqualify hambone.
 
This time, I get to say this:

"Awesome, Jenson, AWESOME !"​
Rubens may end up with more points this year than Michael Schumacher. It's a great start for Cosworth engines, and a restating of facts for poor Rubens before both of them retire for good in a few years' time.
 
what a sick race...

go jenson!
 
Re: Hamo was classless today......er, this weekend

Now let's hear Tedroe's spin/analysis of Hamo's complaints during the last laps!!
OK, how about this, he fell into the Tiger trap. Besides his stupid complaints, he was showing off on the street like a punk. As his father is no longer his agent, he's probably not getting the daily guidance he's been used to and therefore he "forgot his roots and how he was raised" yadee, yadee, etc. :rolleyes:

On another note, while I've been critical of Jenson WRT self confidence and determination, he looked every bit the champion today. :smile: Just hope this wasn't a "blind squirrel" victory.

Good stuff going on all over the track. :wink:
 
very entertaining...Hamo talking foolish drivel because Jenson sailed away to victory.......That is a tough circuit, fast turns and few pure straights.I'm rooting for JB simply because of his Honda roots.
 
41 yo shumi still has the fast twitch fibers and buttocks gyroscopes of the 20 yo's. Glad to see jenson outqualify hambone.

word.


This time, I get to say this:

"Awesome, Jenson, AWESOME !"​
Rubens may end up with more points this year than Michael Schumacher. It's a great start for Cosworth engines, and a restating of facts for poor Rubens before both of them retire for good in a few years' time.

Indeed.

very entertaining...Hamo talking foolish drivel because Jenson sailed away to victory.......That is a tough circuit, fast turns and few pure straights.I'm rooting for JB simply because of his Honda roots.

Great call on his part coming in for slicks. Yet I bet there will still be naysayers saying he's no where near as good as Lewis Whiner, I mean Hamilton.

I only wish he could have won in a Honda all those past years when they were around.
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/racing/f1/news/story?id=5026669

F1 boss hopes for New York race

MILAN -- Formula One cars could be racing with a backdrop of the Manhattan skyline if Bernie Ecclestone gets his way.
The F1 boss wants to help set up a New York Grand Prix in 2012.

"[It would be] in front of Manhattan in New Jersey, with the skyscrapers in the background," Ecclestone said in Thursday's Gazzetta dello Sport. "Fifteen minutes from the center of New York to the circuit would be marvelous."

There hasn't been a grand prix in the United States since 2007, when Lewis Hamilton won in Indianapolis to signal the end to eight years at the circuit.

Before that, Phoenix hosted three grands prix from 1989 to 1991, while Watkins Glen in upstate New York hosted the F1 from 1961 to 1980.
Ecclestone also left the door open for former Renault owner Flavio Briatore to return to the series. The Italian was banned for life after an attempt at race-fixing at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix. He overturned the ban in a French court, but Formula One's governing body is appealing the decision.
Briatore recently ruled out a return to the series.

"Why not?" Ecclestone said. "It depends on what he wants to do, but I think he could have a role promoting Formula One."

The 79-year-old Ecclestone also said he has no intention of leaving Formula One any time soon.

"I am happy to continue. I'm well and I'm enjoying myself," he said. "When I'm not, then I will stop. At the moment we are going through some difficulties and when things are going badly you should lead from the front to try and improve them."

I'd rather see it in California but anything in the US would be great.
 
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