Street Racing

[greenberet]

ChopsJazz, you can see accident statistics regarding what happens when unsuspecting commuters drive home on the highway, change lanes, talk on the phone, etc. while others on the highway are driving 50 or 80 mph faster than them. Just look at the accident statistics for Germany (post #99 of this tread). The highway death rate in Germany is about half that of the US even though there are grandmothers on the highway tootling along at 70 mph and others drive 150 mph - legally.

Unlike fast driving per se, having bystanders on the side of the street unprotected by guardrails watching cars slide by at the limit of adhesion does increase the death rate. The Mille Miglia races, Group B rallies, etc. were like that. People loved watching them, but so many got killed that they were toned down or banned.

Fast driving and irresponsible driving are not the same.

PS: looking at my avatar, it would be strange if I thought otherwise :smile:

 

[4AU4LIFE]

Just look at the accident statistics for Germany (post #99 of this tread). The highway death rate in Germany is about half that of the US even though there are grandmothers on the highway tootling along at 70 mph and others drive 150 mph - legally.........

I think one major differnce in Europe and those types of countries is you are just given a license to drive when you turn a certain age but rather have earn that priviledge. Of course here as soon as you turn 16 and can read a few basics signs and can drive around a closed course of bright orange cones that let you loose out into the public streets.
THEN the newly printed license don't even have the ink dried on them and the kids are racing anything they can get their hands on because they can!!

 

[ChopsJazz]

Fast driving and irresponsible driving are not the same.

I couldn't have said it better. :wink:

 

[sivernsx]

some folks won't learn until it happens to them.

Some of us here just like to go around and Thrash other people.
sterio typing shall I say.
It is sad to say on my behalf that I am being compared ( Thrased upon )
like some kids who runs out in the middle of the streets at an event, and get's run over by oncoming traffic.
I admit that I am far from perfect, but, some of the things that we say we need to think a little.
i dont intend to risk anybody life during such activity except mine.
no bystanderds to spectate. commen sense...
Those are the type of poeple that gives racing a bad name.
be it at on the streets or at the track. They dont think of theyre consequences.
I tried to let this thread die down by not putting anymore of my video on here. but, you guys wont let it die.
I am not here to make enemies, just trying to meet other car enthusiest out there like myself.
I dont do drungs, I work 6 days a week, I pay my taxes, really,
I am not a bad guy I dont believe.

 

[4AU4LIFE]

i dont intend to risk anybody life during such activity except mine.

so winning a meaningless, stupid, illegal street race is more important than your life?? How about those you would leave behind?? Ever think of what might be important to them...uh maybe YOU?
Obviously nobody on here is going to change your mind so go ahead and continue with your little ego trip street racing and I'll pray that you don't hurt an innocent person.

 

[sivernsx]

I guess you forgot to pray for the one's that just died.
keep your prayers for me.
my family is taken cared of. thanks for asking.

 

[sivernsx]

On a lighter note.
I guess what I am really trying tp say is,
stop worrying about other people business.
There are no guarantee in Life.
you can die today tomorrow. There are ax murderers out there, serial killers and rapist.. What are you doing or saying about them. Those are the people you really need to pray for.
Do what you enjoy and makes you happy.
I will worry about myself.
I will pay for my own actions for it be right or wrong.
If I don't pay for it here on earth, The man upstairs will
reprimand me.

 

[j.r]

Well the sad part about street racing tragedies is that I wish I could say "I told you so" to the street racer, but by that time you are either dead or you killed some innocent person.

 

[ChopsJazz]

On a lighter note.
I guess what I am really trying tp say is,
stop worrying about other people business.
There are no guarantee in Life.
you can die today tomorrow. There are ax murderers out there, serial killers and rapist.. What are you doing or saying about them. Those are the people you really need to pray for.
Do what you enjoy and makes you happy.
I will worry about myself.
I will pay for my own actions for it be right or wrong.
If I don't pay for it here on earth, The man upstairs will
reprimand me.

This is the stupidest justification for racing that I have ever heard. Grow up and stop acting like a child.

 

[LJSB]

Do you expect this fellow to change his mind or outlook on street racing? That's silly.
He will not change his outlook or behavior unless he decides to or by circumstances is forced to.
His enjoyment is paramount and his logic follows that need.
Nothing you can say here will make a difference or influence him on this.

You may feel it's unsafe, dangerous, illegal, whatever, but it will not matter. He wants what he wants, feels justified in is pursuit and believes in his own goodness. Let it go, theres nothing you can do here.

 

[sivernsx]

Stop being the internet POLICE
Who is being childish.
This thread was not orignally posted for BAShING Street Racing.
There are people out here that enjoys what I do.
Go start your own thread started on ( Street Racing is Bad )
( How dumb Street Racing is )

I hope your educated enough to know that there is a time
and place for everything.
NO street racing is not what I live for. yes it is dangerous, but it is
to me no different than someone doing a highway pull when the lane is clear. I know we all from time to time, encluding yourself have done this.
I am not going to go out in the middle of rush hour or busy intersection.

 

[ChopsJazz]

Do you expect this fellow to change his mind or outlook on street racing?

Of course I don't. But somehow I can't stop myself from responding to people who justify their actions with stupid pictures of people with captions under them...:biggrin:

 

[DocL]

...I hope your (SIC) educated enough to know that there is a time and place for everything...

You're obviously not educated.

 

[snakey]

Ive wrecked 2 differant Vipers in the past year. One while street racing a C6Z06 and the other while racing a 2002 ACR Viper...Luckily I never hurt anyone else but the second wreck with the SRT10 Viper I almost lost my life......Im buying a NSX shortly to get away from the 500 ft pounds of rwhp tourque that my Vipers put down...The tourque was mainly why I lost control while acellerating hard in second gear after the third beep. I will never street race again despite having over 50 other highway battles where every thing was fine..Just that one mistake will kill you or some one else....

 

[j.r]

Glad to see you are in one piece!

Is it safe to assume that you thought you are a good enough driver that it would never happen to you? Until of course, it did.

 

[sivernsx]

Glad to hear your in one piece also.

Here is a video that we just made, especialy for you so called anti-race fans.


2003viper. supercharged with meth.. dyno over 700 rwhp and over 600lb or tourge. I have personally sat in the viper. it spins all the way into 4th gear.
50 roll.. we were at 11lbs of boost in 3rd and 12lbs in 4th.
we let off after 4th gear.


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Here is the other from a 70Roll.. we were at 12lbs of boost in all gears.
unfortunately it was not enough.
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[j.r]

1. Can't see anything.

2. I don't see any excitement in this video.

3. Personally, not worth dieing for.

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9 Injured, 1 Dead.

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Supra crashes into barrier.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yrimUeuCC8A

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[sivernsx]

no Casualties in any of our events.
can it be that were just a little bit better drivers?

comming up next.. us against the 600rr..

 

[docjohn]

Siver man your vids show nothing Actualy i feel better seeing them as it looks like you could be just rolling,downgrade that is with no engine help:redface: Be that as it may,you know some of us will always try and put the kabash on this sort of thing because there are so many other sites on the web to relish this ,and of course prime has the rep it does because of the level headedness of the regulars.As I see it you have a turbo nsx which you won't post a dyno of and all you care about is poorly filmed incomprehensible vids Why don't you share some of the non street draging exploits of your build.

 

[sivernsx]

Docjohn being that you asked.
I will..
We are still working out all the kinks in our turbo kit.
after the viper run, we redid our exhaust and our cooling.
better intake temp cooling, and less retriction on the exhaust.

We have been trying to go the dragstrip, but lately the weather
has prohibited us.
I have not had the car dynoed yet.
I do plan on taking her to nopi this year to see what she can do on the dyno
along with making it a weekend outing with my son. :smile:

 

[docjohn]

Thankyou for the thoughtful reply.:smile:

 

[queenlives]

i don't know why, but every time i read another street racing justification post, this poster comes to mind:

 

[ChopsJazz]

Do you think PD Cunningham, or Boris Said, et al. engage in this type of conversation?

 

[john@johnhudakracing]

i don't know why, but every time i read another street racing justification post, this poster comes to mind:

Really? I was thinking more along the line of these:

Do you think PD Cunningham, or Boris Said, et al. engage in this type of conversation?

Sure. Hell they probably have this one hanging in their garage. :wink:

 

[quack]

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40 seconds in, this guy is evil!! "dude Tell me you got that on film"...That's one sad dude actually being there and that being a first reaction besides helping.