Street Racing
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A spectator at a sanctioned street race assumes a level of risk because they know they are going to a race,and many have died back in the day.Spectator safety is ever changing,note the increase in height of safety fences and noman zones,,,,but can you really compare that to what we are talking about,,,I 50,,,the whatever freeway,main street,with soccer moms and senors,,do they know or expect to see two or three El dementes blasting past? Cmon...Targa Florio LOl!
This is completely rediculus!
I think Im going to move next door to Florio and discharge automatic weapons in my backyard. It is perfectly safe when I go to the firing range and I will do the best I can to make sure that the neighbours kids arnt running around dressed as turkeys when Im out there kicking ass.
LOL.
I think Im going to move next door to Florio and discharge automatic weapons in my backyard. It is perfectly safe when I go to the firing range and I will do the best I can to make sure that the neighbours kids arnt running around dressed as turkeys when Im out there kicking ass.
LOL.
Fourring, I am glad you respect some of us for our insight and willingness to help others, but we may also have some insight that you may not agree with. Just because you don't agree does not mean that we are wrong. If this is the thread that you are referring to about which I offered to buy drinks, I think you should think about the context in which the drinks were offered. It was, if fact, my birthday celebration at a world-famous car show. I figure that a lunch-time glass of champagne is pretty benign in that almost everyone will stay the entire afternoon. Also, we are all adults and can judge for ourselves when and where we've had too much to drink.
Does my drinking justify your street racing?
That was not my implication chopsjazz. I like to read a thread that stays on topic. I have no problem with the text of your comments. My admonition is to Stay On Topic.
The drinking I was referring to was at a concert in California. I saw it when I was out there about a year ago. It would seem that you have a pattern of inviting other members for drinks. I have lost several friends to fatal accidents (one that nearly killed my younger brother). All these accidents involved one of the drivers being impaired due to alcohol. I know first hand that drinkers "think" they are always being safe. Statistics and gravesites indicate they are wrong.
Despite my hatred of any drinking and driving I do not get on a member's thread and start unloading statistics about how stupid and irresponsible that is.
I have a sore spot for phone usage in cars. I do not go into the electronics forums and beat a dead horse by unloading statisitcs about how dangerous it is to use consumer electronics while driving.
Why? It is respectful to stay on topic.
Start a thread about how dangerous street racing is. Use accurate statistics and examples. You will win many more minds by doing this than by jacking someones thread.
Your concern is public safety that fits your lifestyle. I have not seen you blast all the drinking threads. What about all the guys loading their car with flatscreens and iphones. Statistics show that MANY MORE accidents are caused by these activites than street racing. Why not post statistics on those threads? They are much more dangerous (statisticly speaking) than street racing. This in no way justifies street racing. It does show the hypocrisy of certain members.
If we all start policing every thread out there this site would merely be a contentious playground.
Most members have the self restraint to stay on topic and stop beating a dead horse. There are a few equine cadaver jockeys on here that need to get off their saddle.
Four, I agree that there are lots of other things that also need to be addressed before the Streets are as safe as they could be and I agree that drinking and driving is top of the list, and talking on the cell phone and doing anything else that takes up the drivers attention should be there, too.
But much of those are not illegal and with the exception of drinking and driving, I bet none of them cause as much injury/death as street racing and I bet that all of them are far more prevalent than street racing is.
If you are going to start talking about statistics as a justification for what to police/be active against, stop citing absolute instances and start talking about rates. If street racing was legal, or even if more criminals ignored the law and did it anyways, the incidence of events would be dramatically higher (even if the rate wasnt).
Would you be so concerned if someone started a thread about how great drinking and driving is and they too got jumped on? I doubt it. You shouldnt see street racing any differently than drinking and driving. Both illegal. Both endanger the lives of those in and around the car and both need to be stopped. The only difference is probably that once the race is over, the risk is diminished. The drinker and driver is a risk during the whole drive.
Ive got a few minutes here and there to pontificate. If I choose to do it in this thread, even if its useless, pointless, irrelevant, redundant, blah blah blah, I dont care. I dont care if it is disrespectful, rude, boring, whatever. All I care about is that it makes this thread less interesting to the OPs.
But much of those are not illegal and with the exception of drinking and driving, I bet none of them cause as much injury/death as street racing and I bet that all of them are far more prevalent than street racing is.
If you are going to start talking about statistics as a justification for what to police/be active against, stop citing absolute instances and start talking about rates. If street racing was legal, or even if more criminals ignored the law and did it anyways, the incidence of events would be dramatically higher (even if the rate wasnt).
Would you be so concerned if someone started a thread about how great drinking and driving is and they too got jumped on? I doubt it. You shouldnt see street racing any differently than drinking and driving. Both illegal. Both endanger the lives of those in and around the car and both need to be stopped. The only difference is probably that once the race is over, the risk is diminished. The drinker and driver is a risk during the whole drive.
Ive got a few minutes here and there to pontificate. If I choose to do it in this thread, even if its useless, pointless, irrelevant, redundant, blah blah blah, I dont care. I dont care if it is disrespectful, rude, boring, whatever. All I care about is that it makes this thread less interesting to the OPs.
This is a first and foremost THE NSX forum.
I'm surprised the administration of NSXPrme would allow it to be used as a venue to advertise and promote a organized, planned illegal activity even if and especially since it involves a NSX.
The thread, deserves to be protested.
This is not foolishly and spontaneously joining in a street race just once. It is clearly a series of planned event that are in many states a FELONY.
No one here has ever decided to get drunk and make a video of them driving their NSX and leave saying "next week we're doing Vodka!"
It does not matter if there are worse activities or crimes in the world.
They are not tied to the NSX and being touted here.
There is no requirement to right the rest of the wrongs in the world before we protest this one.
Again, I'm surprised that the administration doesn't shut this stuff down before someone does get hurt and the site gets drawn in and found as possibly libel.
I'm surprised the administration of NSXPrme would allow it to be used as a venue to advertise and promote a organized, planned illegal activity even if and especially since it involves a NSX.
The thread, deserves to be protested.
This is not foolishly and spontaneously joining in a street race just once. It is clearly a series of planned event that are in many states a FELONY.
No one here has ever decided to get drunk and make a video of them driving their NSX and leave saying "next week we're doing Vodka!"
It does not matter if there are worse activities or crimes in the world.
They are not tied to the NSX and being touted here.
There is no requirement to right the rest of the wrongs in the world before we protest this one.
Again, I'm surprised that the administration doesn't shut this stuff down before someone does get hurt and the site gets drawn in and found as possibly libel.
Kinda reminds you of a certain young person doing something like this recently that drove a new BMW to his and 3 others ultimate demise.:frown:
And to top it off, they were doing it on a deserted runway. Still didn't help save thier lives though did it?
I'm pretty sure that the kid didn't tell his parents what his intentions were would he took the keys.
SON: 'Hey dad, I'm a young irresponsible, foolish kid who is going to take 3others out in the brand new 500HP BMW and see how fast I can get it to go.'
DAD: 'Ok son, have a good night.'
NOT
hard to believe this thread is still going.
Only on This Forum do you see ( find ) Threads like this.
you really crack me up.
Do most members here in this forum see everything as a Legal issue or just you? ( sueing ) people all the time.
This is like the old lady sueing McDonald for spilling her coffee on herself.
That suits me fine.
You don't need me to crack you up. You'll do just fine by yourself.
Not everything siver just this andit IS a legal issue. It is ILLEGAL.
There you go again.
No it's not. It's not at all the same.
Remember this?
I oppose. Now keep your word. STOP.
lol. He edited his post to take back what he said!
Stop! Stop posting about illegal acts. Stop endangering the public. Stop looking for justification for what you do in the most rediculus places.
But please start positively contributing to this and other communities. I bet that you will find tons of people here whom you get along with great, you can learn from, you can help (about more reasonable things).
Come to Est Fest and NSXPO and party with the Canadians! It'll all be good!
Stop! Stop posting about illegal acts. Stop endangering the public. Stop looking for justification for what you do in the most rediculus places.
But please start positively contributing to this and other communities. I bet that you will find tons of people here whom you get along with great, you can learn from, you can help (about more reasonable things).
Come to Est Fest and NSXPO and party with the Canadians! It'll all be good!
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hey man give it up we can't win lets sell the car and go buy us a viper where we can find people with more cojones.
you guys are such a, well maybe i should let my buddy tell you.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zNiiHVYnQ6A
you guys are such a, well maybe i should let my buddy tell you.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zNiiHVYnQ6A
Thank you! I completely understand this. My point of contention is all the users that say they are concerned about public safety yet, do nothing to police the other threads that promote tech installs or activity that would be dangerous to public or personal safety.
Someone who is truly concerned about safety would have started a thread entitled "the dangers of street racing". This thread would have current statistics of the dangers of street racing along with member's personal examples of how exceeding the speed limit has had dire consequences. Someone like chopsjazz (a pro teacher) would be excellent for this. Anytime someone starts a thread that involves street racing another member could post a link to this definitive thread.
When certain members beat the horse with comments on threads like this a few things happen:
1) The thread becomes more popular
2) More people see the video
3) The video becomes more popular on YOUTUBE
4) More kids at home on their pc watch the video
5) Increasing #s of kids want to tune their little Honda to race
I would have never noticed this thread if it didn't go from one page to six.:smile:
BTW - do a search for "drinks" and you find more posts encouraging this than street racing. How many members have tried to discourage this?
Ok, obviously you've never hung out with the viper club....
You're going to get a bunch of 45+ year old guys. They also frown on street racing, and you will learn a lot about NASCAR really fast while at their oval indoor go-cart enduro....
Then maybe we need to increase the quality of content so they get better inspiration. The videos on this thread are really lame and boring.
Here's some better ones to get them going...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCjyfiKwcOc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRG6Y791iBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCjyfiKwcOc
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If your objection to the OP doing a “highway pull” on an otherwise empty highway is because exceeding the speed limit is illegal then you have a valid point. If you do not have access to speed limit free highways, you will break the law if you accelerate past 75 mph or so, depending on where you live.
The OP was not weaving in and out of traffic, drifting through busy intersections, driving at high speed when there are crossroads, etc. He and another guy floored their throttles on an empty highway to see whose car accelerates faster. Condemning that for safety reasons and at the same time not having a problem with events such as yesterday’s World Rally Championship race, at which people sat completely unprotected on the outside of turns while the cars flew by, is however hypocritical.
If you first read the thread you will better understand what the protest is. It seems you have just came in on the last page or so and are not understanding the context. Your response is a bit non-sequitur.
This is how some of the viper group feel about NSX owners.
scroll down to the bottom..
http://www.viperalley.com/forum/viper-discussions-srt/63156-viper-vs-turbo-acura.html
Jess and I are wanting a rerun so we can shut some of the viper club members up.
We are pretty confident that we're going to be in front this time around.
Let a turbo 6 that's not design to have alot of horsepower outrun a V-10, moreover, a supercharged V-10..
Not most viper people are like that. The guy who owned the viper we ran is a pretty cool guy. one of my personal friends.
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There are alot more members out there than just you.
I will keep my word.
To all members out there please just give me your responce.
be it for yay or nay..
I can always buy another car a join another forum.
I was about to buy a viper 3 weeks ago and get rid of the NSX til Jess told me He was not going to work on it. He enjoys working on the Acura.
He has spent too much time and effort making this NSX a reliable, powerful street Sleeper.
As long as you are looking for votes, I join Pbassjo and the others who vote nay. We welcome track videos but the street vids promote potentially dangerous and illegal behavior. Take it to the track/dragstrip and do it in a controlled environment.
If you first read the thread you will better understand what the protest is. It seems you have just came in on the last page or so and are not understanding the context. Your response is a bit non-sequitur.
I have read the thread and believe I do understand what it is about. If it is not about a "highway pull", please point me to any post of the OP that indicates otherwise. While you're looking, please take note of post #99 (my first post) and then post #122 (your first post).
Ok. Last post reads:
"
Please stop street racing.
signed,
Your fellow drivers.
<!-- / message -->"
And everyone else on the thread that is talking smack has like 15-30 posts... what does that say?
Just look at the title of the thread. STREET RACING:biggrin:
Yes, it is about a STREET RACE on a public road, which we've also learned goes to about 150mph.
Just because its a "pull" on a road that they "believe" is clear, does not diminish the act.
Just because its a "pull" on a road that they "believe" is clear, does not diminish the act.
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