STMPO / SOS (moved from another thread)

[UnhuZ]

Re: STMPO / SOS (moved from a FI thread)

Ross... excuse me for saying this, but i just have to:

don't you think that is a bit childish of you to leave the whole community for a handfull of nay-sayers!? there are always nay-sayers that insist that their stuff/opinions are the sh!t...

comon...just plug your "ignore_engine" to the 12v plug and move on...

as coz said, it's sad to see members (vendors or individuals) of such a small and tight community fall apart for.... well... for nothing .... nothing that really counts, that is.

just my $.02

Nuno

 

[lowellhigh79]

Re: STMPO / SOS (moved from a FI thread)

Danny and Coz,

It's kind of funny how a small group of people need to be so detailed in explaining what they think of everyone around them… would you say all of this to me if we were standing next to each other… where i'm from... people get hit in the face for voicing opinions like that while standing next to each other.

What you accomplished for your own car without the capabilities to provide it to a community is a cute story. Do you really think people want to read what you did instead of being able to choose from a wider range of products.

This isn’t about putting me on a podium that isn’t as tall as everyone else’s. I could care less what anyone thinks of me… I used to care if NSX owners had quality parts at reasonable prices.

My favorite car in the world just hit a huge speed bump in the value for the consumer department… Do you care that it is happening to them. My heart was in this and I had a completely different business model. I leaving the NSX community with a product line up superior to my competitors and now priced in line with theirs instead of lower than it.

Tonight I’m driving home from my office at 2:00 am on a Sunday night. If you only knew what I sacrificed for you and the people that have to read your stories… all you had to do is STFU… instead you talked me out of the door…

This is about how much I work… how much of my net worth I risk on the benefit of complete strangers.. and how unappreciated I feel because a small group of people think the stuff they bought for their car that isn’t available to others is cooler than what I actually offer.

If either of your car’s drove past me on the side of the road I’d stare at them… I stare at all NSX’s.

So here’s the new Pepsi challenge.. NA1 NSX owner wants to buy test pipes… they are gonna have to read reviews and look at prices.

Test pipes are now the same price as Dali’s… no reason to have them 29.00 cheaper than a guy who doesn’t ship all his orders.

http://www.stmpo.com/product.php?productid=16161&cat=256&page=1

Comes with a sticker pack… no monkeys ass’s though

BTW –

Coz… my parts are on your car because I gave them to you… you have spent cheddar bob on your car… you’re not spending your money on everyone else’s benefit…

Danny – This week we are removing the WTA and building an ATA set-up for the FXMD RTA NSX.. Remember… the car we helped build that wears all the crowns as king… except for one crown… you know… the one you get with a kids meal at Burger King for having the highest number on the dyno.


Regards

I'm very familiar with their car and the fact that it has lines and body parts and panels that none of your potential customer's cars will ever have. BTW, Your familiarity with a kid's meal is just too precious.

Regards,

Danny

 

[Coz]

Re: STMPO / SOS (moved from a FI thread)

Unbelievable Ross...
As someone told me awhile back when I was F-en up that I took to heart....maybe you should too.

"You are you're own worst enemy"

Danny and Coz,
Coz… my parts are on your car because I gave them to you… you have spent cheddar bob on your car… you’re not spending your money on everyone else’s benefit…
Danny – This week we are removing the WTA and building an ATA set-up for the FXMD RTA NSX.. Remember… the car we helped build that wears all the crowns as king… except for one crown… you know… the one you get with a kids meal at Burger King for having the highest number on the dyno.

 

[StmpoRaceProducts]

Re: STMPO / SOS (moved from a FI thread)

Ross... excuse me for saying this, but i just have to:

don't you think that is a bit childish of you to leave the whole community for a handful of nay-sayers!? there are always nay-sayers that insist that their stuff/opinions are the sh!t...

comon...just plug your "ignore_engine" to the 12v plug and move on...

as coz said, it's sad to see members (vendors or individuals) of such a small and tight community fall apart for.... well... for nothing .... nothing that really counts, that is.

just my $.02

Nuno

Nuno,

That’s not the only thing Coz said though... his dismount to his post was just his birthday candle on the cake above it. Explaining how he feels about all the other vendors doesn’t make me feel appreciated for my efforts... It just shows that some people don’t even pay attention to the outcome of their actions.

Everyone with a bad opinon of me never met, spoke, or bought from me. Everyone who has done so... doesn’t share the same opinion.

I like you man... Trust me... I know who said things positive... and I know who stood up for me instead pounding me into the ground. Now you know how I feel.. wanting to help someone but having no control over being able to.

lib•er•ate (lb-rt)

verb

lib•er•at•ed, lib•er•at•ing, lib•er•ates

1. Liberate : To set free, as from oppression, confinement, or foreign control.



I know you wanted to buy my parts too... When you’re ready to do so... email me instead of ordering off the website.... take 10% off the total of the parts you wanted to acquire as well... I'll honor prices lower than my old website pricing to the small group of people that stood before the arrogance.

The community needs to stay aware of talent that may show up in the future... and don’t let others talk that talent into leaving.

I'm done with price increases and the point I needed to make has been made.

You cant call me a child for doing what I need to do in order to keep the doors open here. If that makes me a child... I’m a child with a business still open.. that is better than being a man looking for a job.

This thread can get locked now... Thanks LUD... Moving this thread to the vendor section helped me accomplish me goal.

Keep an eye out in the vendors section for the liquidation sale...

I need to pay my bills and all these NSX parts I have acquired for testing need to go in order for me to do that.

Danny... of course I get the kids meal... it's the only way to not make a 1000 hp on the dyno but still get the size prize as if I did.

Regards,

 

[HIJACKER]

Re: STMPO / SOS (moved from a FI thread)

Maybe I'm just to new, only being active on this site since 2009 and here since 2008. However, it's really sad to see things reach this level, regardless of any vendor or who is at fault.

Truth be told - any "naysayers" won't be affected by price increases or liquidation, this only affects those who enjoy your support, respect, and desire your products. Either way, I really wish everyone could just shove this shit behind them and move forward.

The criticism that Ross complains of, I understand COMPLETELY. However, I've also learned over the past 15 years of various messageboards - that's just how forums work, ANY forum. You will always have the kyboard jockies who claim to know it all questioning those who are subject matter experts on the platform. However, knowing when to shrug it off and channel that negativity into something positive is what builds true success. But, to each their own I guess.

 

[StmpoRaceProducts]

Re: STMPO / SOS (moved from a FI thread)

Maybe I'm just to new, only being active on this site since 2009 and here since 2008. However, it's really sad to see things reach this level, regardless of any vendor or who is at fault.

Truth be told - any "naysayers" won't be affected by price increases or liquidation, this only affects those who enjoy your support, respect, and desire your products. Either way, I really wish everyone could just shove this shit behind them and move forward.

The criticism that Ross complains of, I understand COMPLETELY. However, I've also learned over the past 15 years of various messageboards - that's just how forums work, ANY forum. You will always have the kyboard jockies who claim to know it all questioning those who are subject matter experts on the platform. However, knowing when to shrug it off and channel that negativity into something positive is what builds true success. But, to each their own I guess.

I'm glad you understand me... If for some reason I come back... I hope users have learned that my talent will not put up with what was dealt my way. And to step in when people that don’t know that... act inappropriately.

You are correct... other forums do have the same problem.. A wise business man who can think outside the box... would choose the forum he want to make parts for... not the car.

It would be hard for a child to do that though.

www.stmpo.com will keep NSX parts on it... were just not going to spend my money making the amount of parts available larger.

Regards

 

[HIJACKER]

Re: STMPO / SOS (moved from a FI thread)

I'm glad you understand me... If for some reason I come back... I hope users have learned that my talent will not put up with what was dealt my way. And to step in when people that don’t know that... act inappropriately.

You are correct... other forums do have the same problem.. A wise business man who can think outside the box... would choose the forum he want to make parts for... not the car.

It would be hard for a child to do that though.

www.stmpo.com will keep NSX parts on it... were just not going to spend my money making the amount of parts available larger.

Regards

Choosing the forum wouldn't work either, since people come and go and the mentality of the messageboard constantly changes with as moderation teams/patterns/rules/pet peeves changes as well. The membership base changes as vehicle values decrease tends to bring more youth - which historically brings higher tempers, more hard headed thought patterns, and thinner wallets.

Again, I think putting all emotions aside will yield the best results overall for everyone involved, most importantly, yourself. I think you sell some damn good products, I just haven't had a chance to purchase anything as my biggest focus at this point is the "refresh" items such as TB/WP/Clutch, etc.. all which are heavy hitters and take some smoothing over with the wife. :biggrin:

I just hope to see STMPO remain, as competition overall yields better products for such an amazing vehicle. Just remember, freedom of speech does allow for people to question and say just about anything - so there is no reason to be angry over that. However, there is a difference if it turns into slander, which is where it becomes a legal issue and should be handled accordingly. However, punishing the mass which also impacts the continued opportunity for STMPO over a few isolated incidents over the years I don't think is a successful solution to this story.

 

[YTRY]

"Truth be told - any "naysayers" won't be affected by price increases or liquidation, this only affects those who enjoy your support, respect, and desire your products."

I think that hits the nail on the head, price isn't normally my main concern when I buy parts. As much as I like the amazing products that Ross keeps providing this community, I really have no use for them. I have no idea what the percentage is but I would bet that less than 10% of NSX owners track their cars.

I've owned my NSX for over 10 years, I recently went with a CTSC, headers and exhaust, as well some exterior and interior parts, not because I want to track the car but I wanted to make the car fun and exciting again. ( sort of like remodeling that old kitchen in the home to something new and modern) Chris, Hugo and some of the others that are making parts for us everyday drivers seem to be doing very well. If it's all about economics start producing stuff that us everyday drivers will use.
Just my 2 cents.

 

[Stephen@NCAutoUSA]

Tonight I’m driving home from my office at 2:00 am on a Sunday night. If you only knew what I sacrificed for you and the people that have to read your stories… all you had to do is STFU… instead you talked me out of the door…

Don't lie. You live inside your shop :biggrin:

Seriously. I call Ross at 12am est since that's when I get done work. We chat it up for about 3 hours about my car and others. I ask a ton of questions and 99% of the time has a not just great, but COMPLETE explaination about what's happening and what's going on with the motor at the time. With another answer comes another question and he goes over that as well. In that 1% bracket that he says "dude, I don't know the answer, and I'm not going to BS you BUT.... I know someone who does. It's _________ f$$#ing _________".

At the end of our conversation he's answered probably 100 questions. Didn't have to answer any. Didn't even have to pick up my call, but he did. I actually end the conversation because my girl's sleeping, and I have stuff to do in the morning! He says "dude, I'm going to go see what the guys in my shop are up too and grab a cheesesteak". Cheesesteak? Still working in your shop? Didn't even know Arizona had cheesesteaks.

But really I've chatted with a good amount of people. All have been very helpful. I've bought parts from all the main sources. SOS helped me out with a service that they never offered. Dali has never screwed me over on not shipping a product out. And Ross is someone whom I've NEVER bought a part from yet and takes this much time talking about MY car. I've never met the guy, I've never seen the guy, and I've never bought a part for my Nsx from the guy, and he's taking his time "2x 3 hour conversations" and countless emails to explain to me what's going on. That's a car guy that's got a lot of passion about his work.

Ross, you're ever in philly I'll take you for a cheesesteak at Pats or Geno's, or something like that. You can tell your west coast friends that you rolled in the south philly hood and ate a cheesesteak at 4am.

Stephen

 

[arturo9801]

just waiting on that k20 swap........very patiently...money in da bank-shawty what ya drank..lalalalalaalaaaaaaaa! keep up the good work bro....only the best survive in dis bitnaz

 

[StmpoRaceProducts]

I think you sell some damn good . As much as I like the amazing products that Ross keeps providing this community, I really have no use for them.

I do make good products... they dont sell as much as it appears. But the people that buy them take the time out of their day to help others know how good they are.

You think you have no use for them because the comments made by that small group of people that dont allow me show this to you.

The chassis of your car is extremely old and has taken a beating during the normal wear and tear steel frames are used to.

Your coolant tank will not leak over time.. Dali Made a round one that will last a lifetime.. we made the OEM shaped one that will last a long time.

Take the Race Parts out of the "name" and you will find value.

Choosing the forum wouldn't work either, since people come and go and the mentality of the messageboard constantly changes with as moderation teams/patterns/rules/pet peeves changes as well. The membership base changes as vehicle values decrease tends to bring more youth - which historically brings higher tempers, more hard headed thought patterns, and thinner wallets.

Again, I think putting all emotions aside will yield the best results overall for everyone involved, most importantly, yourself. I think you sell some damn good products, I just haven't had a chance to purchase anything as my biggest focus at this point is the "refresh" items such as TB/WP/Clutch, etc.. all which are heavy hitters and take some smoothing over with the wife. :biggrin:

I just hope to see STMPO remain, as competition overall yields better products for such an amazing vehicle. Just remember, freedom of speech does allow for people to question and say just about anything - so there is no reason to be angry over that. However, there is a difference if it turns into slander, which is where it becomes a legal issue and should be handled accordingly. However, punishing the mass which also impacts the continued opportunity for STMPO over a few isolated incidents over the years I don't think is a successful solution to this story.

Our parts will still be here... Just not very many new ones .. meaning a couple major innovations of what is available today.


Bankruptcy is farther down the list as a successful solution though ... I have the talent level so high... I can just change the car I design parts for.


Regards

 

[YTRY]

"You think you have no use for them because the comments made by that small group of people that dont allow me show this to you.The chassis of your car is extremely old and has taken a beating during the normal wear and tear steel frames are used to."

Very valid points, I hope we have the chance to do business in the near future!

 

[docjohn]

anyone with a targa can see a real improvement in rigidity using the front braces,street more so than track because of the cowl shake on rough undulating roads.

 

[kwinkler]

I do not track my car, far from it. However, I have the STMPO front chassis and rear strut tower bars on my car and see great improvement just from regular daily driving. I think every targa owner, owes it to themselves to install the STMPO RSTB on their car. The car came with a stock RSTB, so Honda deemed that it was necessary. Ross's part just takes it to the next level. It is easily in my top 5 favorite mods.

Kenny

 

[StmpoRaceProducts]

"You think you have no use for them because the comments made by that small group of people that dont allow me show this to you.The chassis of your car is extremely old and has taken a beating during the normal wear and tear steel frames are used to."

Very valid points, I hope we have the chance to do business in the near future!

I look forward to that oppertunity every morning I wake up

anyone with a targa can see a real improvement in rigidity using the front braces,street more so than track because of the cowl shake on rough undulating roads.

Thanks Doc... the NA2 RSTB is the replacement for the car's spine.. It is why the car shakes... take the top off.. and the cars rib cage is missing... and it shakes even more

Only about 15 people could give the Real Life Example of that... It should be about 1000... the part is that good.

Regards

 

[jorligan]

anyone with a targa can see a real improvement in rigidity using the front braces,street more so than track because of the cowl shake on rough undulating roads.

Try the rear brace and more, the front strut brace. I replaced the factory brace with the Comptech brace, some improvement but still ALOT of cowl shake. Changed to the STMPO brace and significant improvement but still had shake. Have NSX-R front brace and now Perry is telling me that they are junk compared to the STMPO brace. Added the front strut brace and no shake. More importantly, daily street driving is significantly improved with less front end shudder when you hit that bump on the sweeping on ramp and just smoother feel. I actually had bought the Comptech harness brace to stiffen up the chassis but now, I don't think that I need it. All in all, very high quality truly helpful products, probably more important that Huga window modification which I also purchased and appreciate.

Like Stephen, I have purchased from all the major vendors without any issues. I added alot of carbon fiber overlay and honestly, I can say that the appearance of the STMPO product is the best. I suspect that he uses the most resin over the carbon fiber since it has the most luster and depth as well as no resin imperfections.

Ross, I hope that you continue to offer all of the high quality products that you manufacturer including the carbon fiber overlay. I got back to town and shipped out the panels today. It will be in your STMPO box so don't think that I am returning the front brace - the brace is permanently attached to my car:biggrin: Hope to see you at XPO for drinks.

Tim

 

[StmpoRaceProducts]

Try the rear brace and more, the front strut brace. I replaced the factory brace with the Comptech brace, some improvement but still ALOT of cowl shake. Changed to the STMPO brace and significant improvement but still had shake. Have NSX-R front brace and now Perry is telling me that they are junk compared to the STMPO brace. Added the front strut brace and no shake. More importantly, daily street driving is significantly improved with less front end shudder when you hit that bump on the sweeping on ramp and just smoother feel. I actually had bought the Comptech harness brace to stiffen up the chassis but now, I don't think that I need it. All in all, very high quality truly helpful products, probably more important that Huga window modification which I also purchased and appreciate.

Like Stephen, I have purchased from all the major vendors without any issues. I added alot of carbon fiber overlay and honestly, I can say that the appearance of the STMPO product is the best. I suspect that he uses the most resin over the carbon fiber since it has the most luster and depth as well as no resin imperfections.

Ross, I hope that you continue to offer all of the high quality products that you manufacturer including the carbon fiber overlay. I got back to town and shipped out the panels today. It will be in your STMPO box so don't think that I am returning the front brace - the brace is permanently attached to my car:biggrin: Hope to see you at XPO for drinks.

Tim

Tim,

Your nav pod is almost done man... Thanks again and thanks for a detailed experience with all but 1 bar installed.

I think 2 of the 15 that actually bought one have spoken so far. It's these 15 people that got me this far.... lol

Wait till you see the exhaust... The second most impressive thing we ever made... The FSTB Wiper Bracket trumps anything we ever tried to make... but we nailed it .. and it works...

Since this is the only thread anyone ever paid attention too... We were first in the world to make a functional FSTB on LHD NSX'es..

The cnc'ed FSTB from Japan was made with ebay mounting points.. The worst part of owning an NSX is the attempt (or lack of attempt) that has been made to produce a part that costs 600.00 before international shipping and tarriff's.

I made a wiper bracket with low tolerances out of 1/2" steel plate hit on a 40 ton cnced brake 3 times... 2 cnc'ed steel inserts for the wiper motor and driver wiper arm.. these also needed to be welded to low tolerances.

Two oil bushings pressed in and included.. but they didnt have to be made... honda put them in there... we didnt have to....... that part could have had Denso engraved into the side of it.

Everyone who paid me money had to wait 3 months to get it.. It was my fault for assuming I would sell more than 7 of them...

When you make something.. and it's a big deal... and it has 17 pieces that are custom... machine shops don’t turn machines on for an order of ten. If they did.. I would only need to buy 170 widgets... but they dont.

So if your gonna go for it... it has to be a big deal... which this is.

But I had to delay shipment to my loyal customers because people.. who have opinion about it... dont have facts about it.

How can you have factual data about a part that is the first of it's kind in the world... it's first one.
Regards

 

[Fireballs_92nsx]

I am one to blame for Ross's additude IMO. I would contact him, speak to him thru emails and basically salvate over his products. I had a few bad things happen, and one thing after another I ended up not buying anything yet. His products and his knowledge is top notch, and it's a shame that all this mess has went down. Hopefully before his products are no longer around, I can actually step up and get most of his suspension parts and a few carbon pieces...which was the plan from the jump.

 

[StmpoRaceProducts]

I am one to blame for Ross's additude IMO. I would contact him, speak to him thru emails and basically salvate over his products. I had a few bad things happen, and one thing after another I ended up not buying anything yet. His products and his knowledge is top notch, and it's a shame that all this mess has went down. Hopefully before his products are no longer around, I can actually step up and get most of his suspension parts and a few carbon pieces...which was the plan from the jump.

Na Bryan... I know thoose parts are on your watch list... if anything... it was temptation...

Everything you wanted will still be here

 

[StmpoRaceProducts]

Don't lie. You live inside your shop :biggrin:

Seriously. I call Ross at 12am est since that's when I get done work. We chat it up for about 3 hours about my car and others. I ask a ton of questions and 99% of the time has a not just great, but COMPLETE explaination about what's happening and what's going on with the motor at the time. With another answer comes another question and he goes over that as well. In that 1% bracket that he says "dude, I don't know the answer, and I'm not going to BS you BUT.... I know someone who does. It's _________ f$$#ing _________".

At the end of our conversation he's answered probably 100 questions. Didn't have to answer any. Didn't even have to pick up my call, but he did. I actually end the conversation because my girl's sleeping, and I have stuff to do in the morning! He says "dude, I'm going to go see what the guys in my shop are up too and grab a cheesesteak". Cheesesteak? Still working in your shop? Didn't even know Arizona had cheesesteaks.

But really I've chatted with a good amount of people. All have been very helpful. I've bought parts from all the main sources. SOS helped me out with a service that they never offered. Dali has never screwed me over on not shipping a product out. And Ross is someone whom I've NEVER bought a part from yet and takes this much time talking about MY car. I've never met the guy, I've never seen the guy, and I've never bought a part for my Nsx from the guy, and he's taking his time "2x 3 hour conversations" and countless emails to explain to me what's going on. That's a car guy that's got a lot of passion about his work.

Ross, you're ever in philly I'll take you for a cheesesteak at Pats or Geno's, or something like that. You can tell your west coast friends that you rolled in the south philly hood and ate a cheesesteak at 4am.

Stephen

Were good bro... and I do want that pats.. no wizz.. american tossed with the meat,, mushroom, cherry peppers and onion.

Regards

 

[kuni]

Ross... check your email man, if you've only sold 15 NA2 RSTBs then you're getting order #16.

I've always been fairly skeptical about all these chassis bar upgrades for cars in general, but after reading all the hype on the Type R bars I picked up a set and honestly couldn't really tell a difference. I was skeptical again when I picked up the STMPO front bar to replace the front Type R bar but this time was pleasantly surprised... it's noticable not just when taking corners hard but just driving around town on crappy roads and even when going in and out of driveways. Can't wait to see what the RSTB will do.

 

[jaffaz32]

I'm shocked to read all this.

Ross has been very helpful to me, i have made one order to date but there is several other items he makes which are on his wish list.

Would be such a shame for a small few to ruin it for the rest.

Hope everyone can put aside their differences.

The more vendors the better i say, and would be such a shame to loose STMPO products.

 

[manh3]

Ross,

You're an awesome guy and I hope that you stay. I have contacted you before in the past but have not purchased anything from you because I'm saving up for a rifle. Once I purchase the rifle, I will place an order for the front brace and rear strut brace for the nontarga tops.

 

[TURBO2GO]

Once I purchase the rifle, I will place an order for the front brace and rear strut brace for the nontarga tops.

LOL... "And I want a big discount too bubba.... ya hear???"

 

[A.S. Motorsport]

Re: STMPO / SOS (moved from a FI thread)

Danny I have nothing against you at all, but I have to say that I find some irony in that you have never dealt with Ross and don't own a single STMPO product, yet seem to have Dali parts on your car and be fine with it, then say that Ross is unprofessional and lacks tact. Don't you find yourself having a double standard?

How "professional" is it to have a SIXTY SIX percent feedback score?

How "Professional" is it to copy Ross's part then reverse STMPO and call it OPMTS?

And most of all, how "professional" is selling this sticker on your website??

http://daliracing.com/v666-5/catalog/pod_index_browse_part.cfm?focus=2605

Out of curiosity, have you ever written a post about Dali's unprofessionalism?

I've tried not to post or get in to this discussion but this is just beyond believe since when the hell is Dali operating a fake/joke SOS web site?

I dint know we got to this low of a level....
Amazing how people still trust some one that goes so low with there money but then again never underestimate what people will do to go "cheapo"...
Don't get me wrong off course not all Dali customers are that but there are certainly a high percentage.

Anyway it would be a extremely sad loss to the community if STMPO just stopped R&D and moved on to something els.