STMPO race products - New product offering - NSX Front Chassis Reinforcement Bar

[StmpoRaceProducts]

Not to bust the bubble but doesn't everyone take the tow hooks off when installing the R bars.

Perry... sorry I missed this comment... I would hope not !!!!

Honda didnt just make those braces as tie downs... they are also frail rail gaurds. They protect your car from 10's of thousands of dollars of damage on a "mis-read-curb" when parking.

Prime member 9doors bought the FCB to help aid the chassis AFTER HE SAVED HIS FRAME RAILS BECAUSE THE BRACKETS WERE INSTALLED DURING A "CURB_MIS_READ" when parking

The thread cant be found right onw... but here is his steps after...

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123035

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125469

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125587

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125582


I would suggest changing that fact that these have been removed.... There is a better option now and 2 lbs isnt worth 15k in damage

Regards

 

[3.5lnsxr]

hi ross
quick question.
i have font mount intercooler set up and wanted to know if your FCB will fit?

thanks

 

[WingZ]

Perry... sorry I missed this comment... I would hope not !!!!

Honda didnt just make those braces as tie downs... they are also frail rail gaurds. They protect your car from 10's of thousands of dollars of damage on a "mis-read-curb" when parking.

Prime member 9doors bought the FCB to help aid the chassis AFTER HE SAVED HIS FRAME RAILS BECAUSE THE BRACKETS WERE INSTALLED DURING A "CURB_MIS_READ" when parking

The thread cant be found right onw... but here is his steps after...

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123035

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125469

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125587

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125582


I would suggest changing that fact that these have been removed.... There is a better option now and 2 lbs isnt worth 15k in damage

Regards

Ouch..noted!

 

[StmpoRaceProducts]

hi ross
quick question.
i have font mount intercooler set up and wanted to know if your FCB will fit?

thanks

Actually... The FCB is the ideal mount for a heat exchanger upfront. The bar gives you the ability to manipulate the way your exchanger grabs air... please see pics of our GruppeM SC exchanger... mounted to a STMPO FCB.





I can send one out unpainted/powdercoated if you would like.

LMK

Regards

 

[Racerxjling]

hi ross
quick question.
i have font mount intercooler set up and wanted to know if your FCB will fit?

thanks

I was able to fit the FCB w/ my heat exchanger. Believe you/me it was tight but it fit. I also have the motorized front license plate bracket in the area...but it all worked in my case. Keep in mind, your heat exchanger may be a different size. Just put blue painter's tape on the bar when figuring things out to minimize scratching of the pretty STMPO bar. I then ended up putting a small rubberized pad between the exchanger and bar in case it should rub. Don't want any rust!!

Jeff

 

[Racerxjling]

Went for a quick test run today...there is a noticeable improvement in the stiffness for sure. As someone else noted, when I go up my driveway at a strong angle, the car used to squeak when on a single wheel. It is solid now with both the FSTB and FCB. Nice job Ross!!!

Jeff

 

[StmpoRaceProducts]

New pricing...

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1333382&postcount=35

Now 400.00

http://www.stmpo.com/product.php?productid=16135&cat=250&page=1

Plus shipping.

Regards

 

[StmpoRaceProducts]

Pics of a color matched Spa Yellow installed on a Veilside NSX

 

[Moses]

Congrats!!!!!!!

I vote for painting the brackets black and leaving the bar yellow.

 

[d.n]

I hope you don't mind me adding my $.02 here about Dali vs STMPO bar, but I couldn't find this info when I was deciding which one to buy and thought this info might help others. If you want me to remove this let me know.


I ended up buying the Dali bar as I needed the adjustability since my car had some previous front frame rail damage. What I didn't realize about the install of the Dali bar is that it's necessary to relocate the A/C dryer due to the location of the bar with an included bracket shown below

The NSX-R bar is probably flat enough to barely fit behind there without having to do this. The Dali bar also came in contact with one of the A/C lines attached to said dryer and it needed to be bent by hand to clear it

Not too big of a deal, but prospective buyers should know about this. It also blocks some of the airflow to the radiator unlike the STMPO bar. Whether this has a measureable effect on cooling, I'm not sure. But my uneducated guess is that the location of the STMPO bar is far more ideal. You can see the difference in mounting location below compared to the FX car pictured earlier in this thread.

In favor of the Dali bar though, I DO like the triangles that are built up to form a sort of gusset at the end plates on the Dali bar and the fact that I didn't have to mod the shroud quite as much as looks to be necessary for the STMPO bar, but overall the STMPO bar looks to be the better engineered of the two. Whether it's worth the extra $$$ is up to the individual

One question though now that I've looked at this thing a little more is this - what type of frame movement is actually being reduced by these bars? Is it frame twist where one side frame rail moves vertically in relation to the other? In that case wouldn't a second diagonal bar increase stiffness? Or some proper gussetting at the end plates? Or perhaps all of this is unnecessary and you already figured that out during testing?

 

[Brylek]

^- Few months ago i helped a friend with the installation and i don't remember the A/C dryer being in the way.

It was a 2004 NSX-T

 

[StmpoRaceProducts]

One question though now that I've looked at this thing a little more is this - what type of frame movement is actually being reduced by these bars? Is it frame twist where one side frame rail moves vertically in relation to the other?

Honda themselves stated the aluminum chassis was designed for a 30 year life... supporting the chassis at this age of the car would only increase that life span....

The frame rails move in many direction since they are welded at the front fire wall with no additional support other than a radiator mount from left to right

In that case wouldn't a second diagonal bar increase stiffness?

Diagonal braces do not impact the structural benefit as much as mounting surface and the number of mounting locations.

IMO... you got what you paid for.

Regards

 

[BATMANs]

Honda themselves stated the aluminum chassis was designed for a 30 year life... supporting the chassis at this age of the car would only increase that life span....

That's a very good point and often overlooked.

 

[BATMANs]

Re: STMPO RACE PRODUCTS - New product offering - NSX Front Chassis Reinforcement Bar

could i just bolt yours on with the r bars in place? - we double checked to see if anything would interfer.. and your actually in luck.

Our bar will bolt right in without interrupting your current set up. And at the end of the day your only adding additional chassis support to your system. I would add that it is more reienforcement with this chassis bar than what you currently have...


I will also add that we will refund your purchase and also the shipping if the fitment was an issue... or you can just call my cell and we can discuss it over the phone

ross - 480-363-9431

Ross,

With my intercooler setup will the front bar bolt in with the Type R bar that I have?

 

[StmpoRaceProducts]

Re: STMPO RACE PRODUCTS - New product offering - NSX Front Chassis Reinforcement Bar

Ross,

With my intercooler setup will the front bar bolt in with the Type R bar that I have?

We can remount your exchanger to the chassis bar when you come back Batman's

 

[cwillgo]

Ross - Thanks for the great product and service. Quick delivery and it fits like a glove! Cant wait for my car to be assembled so i can check it out!

Wil

 

[gsrboy]

Ross - Thanks for the great product and service. Quick delivery and it fits like a glove! Cant wait for my car to be assembled so i can check it out!

Wil

Wow, looks great man, I cant wait to get my bar installed.

 

[Airwolf NSX]

Honda themselves stated the aluminum chassis was designed for a 30 year life... supporting the chassis at this age of the car would only increase that life span....



Diagonal braces do not impact the structural benefit as much as mounting surface and the number of mounting locations.

IMO... you got what you paid for.

Regards

Hmm, what happens after 30 years? The welds start to give out???

 

[StmpoRaceProducts]

Hmm, what happens after 30 years? The welds start to give out???

My guess is not the welds... but the structure will begin to loose stregnth and rigidity. You realy dont want to bend aluminum back and forth....back and forth...ect

The NSX has seem sealer in every weld joint. The glue wont have a lifespan like a raw material.

The welds wont be the issue... the fact it's aluminum and seeing a harsh life...

It makes sense though... 25 year old... high mileage... steel chassis loose rigidity.

I'm surprised at how well the aluminum uni-body has held up today

 

[gsrboy]

Got the bar on monday, Thanks ross!

 

[hlakhani]

pulling out the shroud was a test of patience, but definitely worth the effort. great work on this bar!

 

[RYU]

I thought i'd post some pics of the cuts I had to do to the radiator shroud. I was trying to find what needed to be cut before I bought the bar many months ago but had no luck so here you go. If you want to install this properly I recommend removing the front bumper completely and also the radiator shroud.

FCB works great, though I wonder why the cross bar wasn't made higher up at least an inch or two... must hit the AC components on other year NSXs? Anyway, it works!

You can see this originated as the Imola painted version. The paint doesn't do too well if your car isn't a garage queen like mine :smile:

I ended up sanding it and coating it with truck bedliner spray-on coating. I recommend ordering *at least* the powercoated version for longevity.

 

[RedWings]

I thought i'd post some pics of the cuts I had to do to the radiator shroud.

+1

Those pics should be the template for future installers.

 

[StmpoRaceProducts]

I thought i'd post some pics of the cuts I had to do to the radiator shroud. I was trying to find what needed to be cut before I bought the bar many months ago but had no luck so here you go. If you want to install this properly I recommend removing the front bumper completely and also the radiator shroud.

FCB works great, though I wonder why the cross bar wasn't made higher up at least an inch or two... must hit the AC components on other year NSXs? Anyway, it works!

You can see this originated as the Imola painted version. The paint doesn't do too well if your car isn't a garage queen like mine :smile:

I ended up sanding it and coating it with truck bedliner spray-on coating. I recommend ordering *at least* the powercoated version for longevity.

Thanks for taking the time on that Ryu... I think I never sent send on my last thank you note

Regards

 

[RYU]

Thanks for taking the time on that Ryu... I think I never sent send on my last thank you note

Regards

My pleasure. Wish you still made the alum fstb.