Rotors .....

[Hrant]

Check this out, especially the last entry discussing slotted and drilled rotors and then their pitch for EradiSpeed rotors with the same slotted and drilled "look" ..........

Is that double talk or what? I guess they plan to introduce one for the NSX anytime heh?
http://www.baer.com/faq.shtm

So Motul 600 in plastic container - which is very competitively priced given its dry/wet performance - has already reached the wet boiling point before filling?

 

[D'Ecosse]

Hrant
First absolutely no affiliation with BAER racing, just an interested party currently researching how to upgrade my own brakes. Thanks for bringing my attention to it as I had previously not seen this before your reference.
I have to say however, I disagree with your interpretation of the FAQ on the Eradispeed rotors: I thought it was extremely forthright

from BAER Racing FAQ:
Although Baer offers crossdrilling as an option on their systems, it is offered as a cosmetic option only. However, with an EradiSpeed™ rotor upgrade, unlike a cosmetically altered stock replacement rotor, you will benefit from improved durability, greater heat sink capacity, lighter total weight and the visual excitement of a 2-piece, aluminum centered, crossdrilled, slotted and zinc washed appearance.

from BAER Racing FAQ:
EradiSpeed™ rotor packages also feature rotors with thicker cheeks to provide more heat sink capacity in the fire path of the rotor. Also, they all feature directional vanes for greater pumping efficiency, as well as a two-piece design where the hat, or hub/hat section of the rotor is CNC machined from a solid billet of aluminum and is then fixed to the rotor ring using National Aviation Standard (NAS) stainless hardware.
In other words, the EradiSpeed™ is much more than just the most visually appealing direct replacement rotor, it is the only upgrade of its type which can actually deliver the benefits of greater heat absorption, increased durability and lighter total weight.

They are stating their performance advantage relative to others comes from their other features quoted while acknowledging the aesthetic value of cross drilling is pleasing yet offering no real value other than that. I felt this was very candid.
I think it sums up why many of us replace the rotors on our non-track running street systems - we want something visually pleasing, particularly with increased exposed visibility with after-market wheels, but we want some performance gain for the money at the same time.
I was left in doubt as to what BAER is selling - it is actually refreshing contrast to others claiming performance advantage from purely cosmetic enhancements. They are saying, yeah these look great but have other values besides the most obvious appearance aesthetics.
Personally, I don't see the "double talk"?
Too bad they don't have an NSX application currently!



[This message has been edited by D'Ecosse (edited 19 October 2002).]

 

[nsxtasy]

Originally posted by Hrant:
So Motul 600 in plastic container - which is very competitively priced given its dry/wet performance - has already reached the wet boiling point before filling?

That's ridiculous.

I've heard people talk about the plastic bottles trying to justify why you should buy some crappy fluid with lower boiling points. This is pure baloney - a complete, total non-issue. The plastic Motul bottle keeps out moisture just as well as a metal can. Measure its boiling point (any good shop should have a tester for this) and you will see that it meets its dry boiling point (593 degrees F) right out of the just-opened bottle.

I've used Motul RBF 600 and it is the best reasonably-priced fluid on the market. I use it and, despite generating lots of heat in the brakes on the track, it has never boiled. EVER.


[This message has been edited by nsxtasy (edited 20 October 2002).]

 

[nsxtasy]

P.S. However, just today I found a reasonably-priced brake fluid with even higher boiling temperatures than Motul, here.