the 570 is magic... :love-struck:
It's fast, but it is ugly inside and out.
the 570 is magic... :love-struck:
a professional driver will always lap faster shifting manually, always. these cars all shift up and down too soon, too much, and too unnecessarily when left in auto mode. a human is still heaps better than the DCT computer.
It's fast, but it is ugly inside and out.
Eventually, perhaps, but I challenge anyone to get into an unfamiliar car with 9 ratios and pick the optimal gear right off the bat. It is disorientating at first for anyone coming from a 6 or 7 speed car. That's my point.
subjective obviously, i've heard journalists say the opposite...
2 gears or 26, wouldn't make a difference to me. if you're at the power peak, shift up. not pulling in the power band, shift down. it all happens one gear at a time...
Of course it subjective. Just like journalists that say they don't like how the new nsx sounds or how it feels on a track. All subjective. I've hated the 570 since the first time I see a pic. Hated it even more when I saw it in person. I do love the 12c though and 650s. P1 is stunning.
i don't think anyone is going to try and pretend the new NSX sounds fantastic (cue fanboys now, and go!)... :biggrin:
sounds like you're imagining it sounding good... :wink:
negatory...
I appreciate FA's contributions here. I've had no trouble telling whenSo everything you posted so far on Prime is all hear say, and what you found surfing the Internet....
I appreciate FA's contributions here. I've had no trouble telling when
he's talking about first-hand experience and when he's joking around.
Posts 309 and 311 in this thread have smileys.
So everything you posted so far on Prime is all hear say, and what you found surfing the Internet....
I appreciate FA's contributions here. I've had no trouble telling when
he's talking about first-hand experience and when he's joking around.
Posts 309 and 311 in this thread have smileys.
You would be one of the few then.
negatory. several of my mates and colleagues work for the online and print magazines which write the reviews you folks have been anxiously waiting years to read, including Randy. i have two more mates who were test drivers for the NSX (yes, this same one!) in pre-production testing for the last year prior to its release. these are people i talk to regularly in person, by phone or text. so the opinions i have expressed here regarding the new car are based on their highly professional and unbiased opinions which have been personally shared with me...
I can't resist responding....Man...You sounds a bit like the Kardashian's, always on the TV with an opinion, however, they are know for not having any talent what so ever....keep on rolling!
Why don't you invite Your Mates to make a post on Prime?
Bram
That's called, 'skating to where the puck will be'. When setting performance targets one has to aim to where the competition will be when the car is done so you don't show up to the party only to have your Nouvelle Blue paint blown off. That said, I don't think the NSX is slow, I just think they should've been a bit more aggressive in their performance goals. For better or worse, comparo results sway decisions. People want the baddest car in a given segment, even if they'll never turn a wheel in anger on a racetrack.Here's what I don't understand.
Every brand new car goes through development and then at some point all the variables have to stamped in stone so suppliers can make parts etc.etc.
So every brand new car will be behind its competitors because the competitors can evolve/refine their existing cars quickly and readily compared to an all new car.
So expecting the new NSX to be the fastest thing on the road is not realistic.
I'd agree that the NSX is not slow by any means. It's one thing that's silly about the way people talk about cars in this class. "Oh, it's a second slower a lap than X, it is SLOW." I'm like, that's still pretty damned fast... It's like people with 1000 cc supersports. "Oh it only has 185 horsepower!" Um, okay, try going full throttle down any public road for more than 3 or 4 seconds...The design team was clear about the cars being benchmarked and they succeeded in that.
Of course the competition evolves while the NSX goes from development stage to production stage.
All the criticism about the NSX being slow etc. may be true compared to the very latest offerings from Germany, but it's not a slow car.
In any event Honda now has a platform and driveline they too can evolve.
Will be interesting to see the NSX versions in a few years.
Meantime the new NSX can perform 95% of any competition and I'd say 100% of new owners needs
That's called, 'skating to where the puck will be'. When setting performance targets one has to aim to where the competition will be when the car is done so you don't show up to the party only to have your Nouvelle Blue paint blown off. That said, I don't think the NSX is slow, I just think they should've been a bit more aggressive in their performance goals. For better or worse, comparo results sway decisions. People want the baddest car in a given segment, even if they'll never turn a wheel in anger on a racetrack.
I'd agree that the NSX is not slow by any means. It's one thing that's silly about the way people talk about cars in this class. "Oh, it's a second slower a lap than X, it is SLOW." I'm like, that's still pretty damned fast... It's like people with 1000 cc supersports. "Oh it only has 185 horsepower!"
Luckily the NSX has a nice turbo powerplant that isn't really pushing it as far as boost and output goes, so ostensibly Honda could turn up the wick fairly easily. The other thing is that the launch control is fairly conservative, I'd like to see what the car could do with a more aggressive launch program. I just hope Honda is aggressive with updates unlike last time...
That's called, 'skating to where the puck will be'. When setting performance targets one has to aim to where the competition will be ......