NSX / Z06 / Lotus --- Which would you pick??????

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I'm thinking about a new car and I'm curious of everyone heres opinions on my choices are and why you picked the NSX. Whatever I pick will be my daily driver, and occasional HPDE car.

Currently I'm leaning towards a 91-94 NSX, but I'm not 100% sure and want some more points of view.


2001-2003 Corvette Z06
video: http://video.google.com/videop...61492
0-60: 4.2
1/4 mile: 12.5
60-0: 107
latter accel: 1.0
curb weight: 3130
hp: 385-405
mpg: 28
est cost: $28,000
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1991-1994 Acura NSX
0-60: 5.6
1/4 mile: 13.9
60-0: 123
latter accel: .92
curb weight: 3066
hp: 270
mpg: 24
est cost: $30,000
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2005 Lotus Elise
0-60: 4.9
1/4 mile: 13.1
60-0: 105
latter accel: 1.0
curb weight: 1975
hp: 195
mpg: 38
est cost: $37,000
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Since this is a NSX forum and I do own a 94 NSX I'm a bit bias and would say, "Get anything as long as it's a NSX". :biggrin:

Kidding aside, here's MHO:

C5: the first thing that hit me was the seats felt really flimsy and cheap. I didn't really like the interior.

Elise: awesome car, but kind of uncomfortable for daily use and the thing has quite few rattles and manufacturing issues. My buddy who owns one says it's basically a kit car.

996: one search on the Rennlist for rear main seals will have you running scared.

91-94 NSX: better rigidity than the later models unless you are a lucky SOB and find a NA2 coupe.

97: Power steering, 6speed, and some semi open top driving would make it my recommendation for a daily driver.

Otto
 
kouasupra said:
I thought about buying a Z06 before I bought my NSX. But when I test drove one, I didn't like the interior and the way it felt.


Very true. The Z06 interior looks like GM which isnt good...
I've driven a 94 NSX and a 01 base model vette, and I agree, the vette doesnt give any steering response at all. I'm sure you would get use to it, but coming from a Type-R, I'm use to my car communicating with me.
 
That's easy. NSX.

The old Z06 has a horrid interior -- cavalier cheap.

The Elise is a track car and nothing else.

Now, if you were looking 05 NSX vs 05 C6 Z06, I would go with the latter.
 
The NSX is not the fastest, does not corner the best, is not the most exotic looking, does not have brute torqe but is the BEST balance of all the things a car should be. If not I would not own 2 of them:biggrin:

Bob
 
28 MPG from a Z06:eek:

I'm thinking, NO...

Anyway, this is an NSX forum, who the heck would say, "get the vette". It's a Cavalier with a 350 in it. I drove a 2005 before I got my NSX, it had 4000 miles on it and rattled like nothing I've EVER been in. Just cheap junk.

It's not something I would want to drive everyday. The NSX, as the last post said, is fantastic in all areas, but it isn't the best at any given thing.

The best advice is to drive each one, back to back, and I think you will have your mind made up.
 
Obviously, your best plan is to research all of the boards before laying out your 30k. Nevertheless, I think you will find that no one, including the Lotus Elise owners, will recommend that you daily drive the Elise. There is no need to list the reasons because I am sure you already know them.

As far as an early NSX vs Z06, it is a toss up.

NSX: exotic, mid-engine, high quality all around, it is a Honda (which you own and appear to enjoy)

Vette: good looking (but common. This is actually benefitial in many cases), really high performance (these can hang with the mighty 996 TT!)

Anyway, I don't think you can be disappointed with either the Z06 or the NSX. I have an NSX and a friend of mine has a 99FRC Corvette. We have a great time in both.
 
Jond,

I'm just curious as to why you have the 996 on the list but not the 993? I'd personally take a 993 over a 996 in a heartbeat.

Otto
 
ANYTIME said:
Since when does the cost to own per year - just maintenance and repairs come out to $2800 on a 1997 NSX ???

I wonder if that figure incorporates consumables like tires and clutches. That is a tough number to calculate and I would guess that website may not have done thorough math. I generally agree with the rank order of that graph with the exception of the 911. I would guess it is closer, if not higher than the NSX.

For the purposes of this thread though, I would assume the NSX is more expensive to maintain than the Corvette. (But I would be a lot of money that the NSX is more reliable :biggrin: )
 
Having gone through almost the exact same decisions, I'll tell you what I know.

Depending on your size, you may feel like Superman driving the Elise but look like a fool getting into and out of your Elise! I tested it, loved the corners, looked like an idiot trying to crawl into and out of the car. If the Elise was 25K, I'd get one, but not for more than that, because it does feel like a kit car and is impossible to imagine as a regular driver. Probably awesome on the track, but never as an everyday ride.

More importantly, think RESALE RESALE RESALE!!! What less than a year ago was fetching $10K over sticker now sits on dealer's lots begging to be purchased. I know of a dealer in South Florida with no less than 32 Elises in stock, new on the floor. He can't give them away at cost, and has started to consider taking a loss on the cars. A car you purchased for $45K the beginning of this year now can't even fetch $35K on ebay anymore. Lotus is the epitome of heritage and design, but really isn't working out in the US market. Be realistic, if you can buy a 2005 car that had a sticker of almost $50K when it rolled off the floor this year for $35K 10 months later, do you really want to be selling one 10 months from now?? Not me!

The Corvette is another story. Personally, I enjoyed the C5 Vette Z06 but never could agree with the ultra lightweight clutch! I just never felt that the GM clutch provided nearly the feedback you could get in an Acura or even a Civic. Lots of power, feels like a rocket, but very poor build quality. The leather in the seats was very often overly worn or ripped in many of the used examples I've found, mostly due to its extremely thin nature. You can also be sure that no-one babied a Z06 around town. It was affordable to just about anyone looking at a moderately priced sports car and many were hammered to the hilt. Good fun to drive for sure, but the tail always seemed a little waggy to me. If you live somewhere with a lot of straight, flat roads, it might be a perfect fit if you find a nice clean example.

As far as the price on the Vette, most of its depreciation should have happened by now, especially with the newer C6 coupe having the same HP as the Z06 of last year. If you decide to go this route, look for a bargain, because they are out there.

NSX is still a mystery to me. Can't decide what I'm willing to pay for one, haven't acquired it yet, but it seems to be my front runner. Also considering 996 Porsche or new Cayman S. Be realistic about what you can afford. Would you rather own a 15 year old 1991 NSX or a 5 year old Corvette? That's a lot to think about, and they'll probably cost the same. Also, if you buy an NSX coupe you may always wish you could have afforded the 1995 or 1997 even to get the T or the extra ponies.

I always think of it this way... What will I love looking at it in my garage? What will I love while I'm writing out the check at my dining room table to make the payments? That's the biggest question of all.

In closing, just be careful you don't go for the Vette and find yourself looking at the 300 others that pass you on a daily basis. If you get the Vette, get it because you love it, not for what others will think. But to me, if you're looking at Elises and NSXs, you'll never be satisfied when someone pulls along side you in the same car, and that will be the Vette.

Good luck to you!

b
 
Also, just a stab at your numbers, but you can get a 1999 911 for less than $35K. Closer to $31.
 
I say that you should get the Z-06 or Lotus. Then, after living with either one for six months and realizing that you shlould have gotten an NSX in the first place, your decision will be very easy.
 
The Elise is too small for me. The older Z06's are a dime a dozen. If you were talking about a new Z06, that would be my choice.
 
1. Z06/NSX. Both have significant strengths and weaknesses.
2. Elise - distant 2nd. Poor DD. Need to have great driving skills to get everything out of the car on the track.
 
Posing on an NSX forum you're going to get NSX as #1 - 99.9% of the time!
Go to the Corvette Forum or Elise Forums and guess who they will choose???

I've driven all three so IMHO:

The Lotus - is a blast to drive and will eat up any curve you throw at it. Track car???? Well it's under powered in its class. Bare bones enterior and is not the eastiest thing to get in and out of. Trips over 3 hours would be out of the question unless you like getting beat up. Enough storage for othe Driver's over night bag, the passenger is $%1# out of luck. Removable tops a plus! Exotic turn head factor comes into play, at every stop light everyone is looking on the street corner and cars around you are trying to figure out what the heck an Elise is. Some depreciation expected.

The NSX - Once again it is a blast to drive and eats up the curves almost as well as the Elise. A 1994 NSX is already 10+ years old. Could it be a daily driver? Yes it could, would you want it to be though? That is up to you but maintanence and reliablity do start to play a part. Like the Elise, the NSX could use more power - Slap a Supercharger or Turbo on either and you can keep up with almost anything. Stop light/ Exotic factor comes into play again as well. Little Depreciation expected

The Z06 - More power than both, handling characteristics that almost equals to both the NSX and Elise on a tight twisty road/course. Put it on a road course and it will walk away from the two above. Almost no head turning factor since they are everywhere, minus the waves from every other Vette on the road which is pretty neat. Loads of torque without any mods, interior is basic, yadda yadda yadda. Good daily driver... Moderate Depreciation expected.

It's all in what you want. You can get a NSX or Z06 for about the same price. If you're willing to shell out the extra $$ for the Elise then that is up to you.

I would buy the Z06 for a daily driver but that is just me. If I was going to buy a weekend driver I would probably go with the NSX or Elise depending on my funds... I know I may get flamed for my post but I could care less!!! Don't let myself or anyone else influence you decision. You need to figure out what your needs are and what works for you. All three are great sports cars period. Good Luck!
 
WOW! I am really surprised by all the non-biased GREAT answers here...I have had a C5 ZO6 and have an NSX...Corvette is cheap to keep, fairly reliable and easy to repair but it is after all a Chevy so don't think of it as an exotic and realize its a hotrod and you could be OK with it..The Elise is NOT and NEVER will be suitable as a daily driver...The NSX is reliable, exotic and supremely balanced but is not the fastest in any one segment of performance HOWEVER when you do pull up to the light with a ZO6 flanking your left and an Elise on your right I bet you are looking STRAIGHT ahead and THEY are not!
IMHO
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JJ
 
have an idea....this is not Sophie's choice tfore no need to choose really. first buy an NSX, drive it for a year or two then you can sell it for same or more than paid and buy both a Z06 and an Elise as they will both continue tumble in price for logical rasons (Z06-supply/demand and Elise because the only car from Europe that goes upi n value is Italian and red..unfortunately!).

seriously, I just bought my first NSX and although I have lusted after a 993 (which costs less), I figure, I NEED to get the NSX because that is the one that won't leave my thoughts.....it really has it "all". plus I can get a 993 later....they're pretty easy to find whereas a good NSX needs to be snapped up when found....it's a 5 leaf clover dude and may be the only car purchase which rewards a purely emotional choice...use the force!
 
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