NSX 2.0 Body Kit

[vf2ss]

...a dialed back front end modification that is very subtle, clean up some busy-ness, and attempts to carve a more classically-lined, wedge front...
(i.e. remove the Braun/Remington/Norelco front, spray a little Beak-Be-Gone, and Busy-Headlight-Be-Simplified (and Blue!) for an overall more menacing look)

Spooler - Great submissions!

 

[Spooler]

Very nice, much simpler which adds beauty and more intelligent.

but still, that overall design will never scream NSX to me.

I think that, lol.... Honda has made herendous errors in the exterior design, drivetrain, marketing , delays , everything with this vehicle.

Should have been out years ago, basic and mod friendly so people can make them there own ...V8 with advanced Vtec, super light, super beautiful...and priced to move under 90K

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Hey VF ....thanx for comps btw....could be my last work unless i get a call from Ted. yes..in my dreams lol

I tried to edit what I said above cause I didn't want to take away from your nice revision combined with jab at Honda, but I can't control anything in my Posts anymore
Can't Edit text, picture, anything and can't figure out why.....bugs me cause often I may even disagree with what I had previously written and can't change. lol

Anyhow, I'm sure the guys that dig the car are drooling. nice work...lets see workin lights!

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Looking at it more VF, you have the front looking pretty good.

making the rear look to high and short which is one of a main problems.

Body Kits aside for now. please drop and exstend rear on above photo

thx S

 

[vf2ss]

please drop and extend rear on above photo

I know what you mean. I think a simple rear wheel spacer would help. I wouldn't want to drop it more tho because from from what I've read...it's already reaaaalll low. Another way to achieve extending the rear without changing dimensions (since this is just virtual exploration for fun :wink is to modify the buttress that gives it that "Z"-hatchback-y look not to mention block rear visibility...

 

[Spooler]

nice work but thats not it....please try again.

Get rid of the duck bill spoiler (Thats vette junk lol) and try to come up with the most beautiful integrated wing of your life...

 

[vf2ss]

you're right...duck bill indeed. okay

 

[Spooler]

LoL

Thank you

Another thing that bugs me about existing design is the doors which have to distort and seperate to make that silly split vent. really ruins the flow

Forget that vent and put inlet where it belongs see pic ... original was one of the most well executed I ever saw. Signature feature just like integrated wing

Here I actually cut it (intake) from it's original location, enlarded and distorted and it worked out well to show what I'm bitching about.

Use for your wing or disregard and continuw with original assignment lol lol

 

[krea.tion]

...a dialed back front end modification that is very subtle, clean up some busy-ness, and attempts to carve a more classically-lined, wedge front...
(i.e. remove the Braun/Remington/Norelco front, spray a little Beak-Be-Gone, and Busy-Headlight-Be-Simplified (and Blue!) for an overall more menacing look)

Spooler - Great submissions!

That looks really sinister. One request if I may? Instead of making the front end one big black piece, could you simply blacken the existing silver beak? I'd be interested to see what a stock "murdered out" NSX would look like. Thanks!

 

[N Spec]

Cool stuff. That Flying buttress is the source of the illusion of extra bulk of the NSX as illustrated. I like the Y buttress theme though, so perhaps the next gen NSX if we're lucky will trim it down and make it look slimmer.

 

[vf2ss]

That looks really sinister. One request if I may? Instead of making the front end one big black piece, could you simply blacken the existing silver beak? I'd be interested to see what a stock "murdered out" NSX would look like. Thanks!

black beak (aka murdered out)...

but again, in pursuit of simplifying the front if you just eliminate the beak altogether and fill it in with a seamless hood it appears much cleaner...

and again, if you replace the overly busy 6-cell headlight (which occasionally has 4 yellow-ish cells on) for a more streamlined light source (aka the original prototype) = more sinister...

Earlier in the thread there'd been discussion between the balance between good design/adhering to brand rules and recognition (aka chrome beaks and a whopping total 12-celled mini headlights). After having more time to let that debate stew, I am still of the opinion that this car does not need to look like the rest of their line-up for the same reasons stated earlier. A lot of their buyers are looking more like first-time Acura buyers and are not interested so much in the brand (nor being affiliated with it but believe in its reliability) but rather just the car itself; which is fine because that's still a buyer and it will still put them back on the map just like the very different looking 1.0 did.

Last but not least, even if you just knock out that Braun/Remington micro-foil screen...I actually think it helps pronounce their recognizable 6-point crest geometry even more while better distinguishing it from Mazda's very similar 5-point crest geometry. Here's an attempt that also moves the emblem forward to add a little of that JDM Type-R spirit back into it ...

 

[Spooler]

Those headlights belong on a 90's ford mustang rental car.

Ther's no reason in the world that they should wrap so far around and end in that ugly point.cheap.

Here..These lights not perfect but better.....Terminator Front grill just a design experiment..... wing came out good though
Whole front slightly pancaked. tapered and enlongated rear end sexier

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choose lol

 

[Valkyrie Pilot]

...a dialed back front end modification that is very subtle, clean up some busy-ness, and attempts to carve a more classically-lined, wedge front...
(i.e. remove the Braun/Remington/Norelco front, spray a little Beak-Be-Gone, and Busy-Headlight-Be-Simplified (and Blue!) for an overall more menacing look)

Spooler - Great submissions!

VF- Really nice job here. Reminds me of what you did before when you combined tweaks that Yinzer and I offered a while back. This car is really looking great overall and if they could just simplify, lower and shorten that front end they would have a problem keeping production numbers down (IMO.) Your mods here definitely help the front to appear lower while keeping the overall unique design. I appreciate that Spooler wants something more conventional but sometimes conventional is easily forgotten.

So apart from lowering and shortening the front even more, here is my take. I still feel that glossy black painted structures are an indication of poor design. If you need to color code the structure, it feels like its compensating for something that is not quite right. Isn't this suppose to be a flying buttress theme? The front strakes under the lights aren't even flying if they are connected to the lights by black plastic! This baby needs to breathe doesn't it? Let her take it all in! My second suggestion is to bisect the three intakes with a horizontal wing that does not quite extend to the outer sides of the outer intakes (more floating theme) sort of like what Spooler did but instead of adding 2, just add one and instead of having the wing angle up, make it flat to mimic the bottom splitter. This will have 4 benefits: 1. Reduce the perceived height of the three intakes, 2. Give the impression that the front is lower, 3. Provide more continuity between the top and bottom of the center intake (because the wing would have a center point with a swept back angle (front to back not swept up from low to high) that averages between the protruding angle of the top edge and the straight line of the bottom edge. 4. Improve down force.

One clarification, I would suggest that the wing area bisecting the outer intakes be recessed extensions of the center wing so the front edge does not protrude past the recessed edge of the strakes that are on the inside of the outer intakes. These outer wing sections could be thinner than the the middle wing and could even contain little LEDs like the new Accord sedan.

Just my .02 if you can follow it lol.

 

[vf2ss]

^ valk, so in trying to follow along...something like this?...

 

[N Spec]

^ valk, so in trying to follow along...something like this?...

I personally think this looks too weird. The taper at the nose is too dramatic compared to the rest of the body, so it just looks really funny, like top heavy bodybuilder will really small calves.

The 1.x inch lowering is a must tho IMO.

 

[Spooler]

Is this what you mean Val ... front Intakes "Bisected By floating wing"

If so, come up with lights and rear wing (not pictured)

If not..re-describe

New side intake inspired by a chop I saw of HSC convertible

Note "Floating doors"

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Door handle gone lol..now hidden under chine.

Roof sills tapored..

Finished ...need engine lol

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[canieaturchikn]

Anyone seen this yet?

 

[Valkyrie Pilot]

Is this what you mean Val ... front Intakes "Bisected By floating wing"

If so, come up with lights and rear wing (not pictured)

If not..re-describe

Sort of like this:

 

[Valkyrie Pilot]

Retried a better take

 

[N Spec]

Retried a better take

I think the splitter would be an interesting take and would be an easy add-on for aftermarket's sake without extreme modding.

 

[vf2ss]

^ Valk I really like the lines you laid down on paper...it's kind of a best of both worlds. The overall muscularity likens to the new Lykan Hypersport (below). Liken the Lykan...ba-dum-tshh

It'd be neat to explore (spooler, spec, anyone...) I like the idea of that mid-splitter in the placement of the current mazda-esque plenum razor-foil grill.

 

[Spooler]

Has there ever been a car in history more scrutinized than the new NSX ?

All the threads and posts covering every single detail. I mean, do other car forums do these chop fest? No they just take whatever is given.

And as mentioned previously, think of all the different models offered by others that the NSX has to compete with.

It's a daunting task, that even Honda is having trouble with. I further think that it is not even possible to match the purity and well thought out quality's of original
and think that's part of the reason that Honda is not even bothering with that and I don't blame them.

Always liked the first follow on though..here's another Chop OF HSC front end I found..installed on our Model..evrything elsre really basic..always starts coming back to original.

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original photo's used for this chop...who is the girl ? lol

 

[Valkyrie Pilot]

Has there ever been a car in history more scrutinized than the new NSX ?

All the threads and posts covering every single detail. I mean, do other car forums do these chop fest? No they just take whatever is given.

And as mentioned previously, think of all the different models offered by others that the NSX has to compete with.

It's a daunting task, that even Honda is having trouble with. I further think that it is not even possible to match the purity and well thought out quality's of original
and think that's part of the reason that Honda is not even bothering with that and I don't blame them.

Always liked the first follow on though..here's another Chop OF HSC front end I found..installed on our Model..evrything elsre really basic..always starts coming back to original.

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original photo's used for this chop...who is the girl ? lol

One of the better HSC concepts I have seen. Seems like a Saleen was cross bred with it. Still not a huge fan of the square-ish front though.

Is that Christina Applegate?

That's funny that you have her sitting in the car.

Any thoughts on my sketch?

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I think the splitter would be an interesting take and would be an easy add-on for aftermarket's sake without extreme modding.

Probably so but just to clarify, I am not just adding a splitter. I am also removing all the blacked-out panels and changing the outer hood crease to coincide with the angle of the strakes. I did not show those modified creases but it would not make sense to have them remain in line with the outside edges of the "little mouth" that was removed. This modified crease would bisect the inner 30% of the light panels too.

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^ Valk I really like the lines you laid down on paper...it's kind of a best of both worlds. The overall muscularity likens to the new Lykan Hypersport (below). Liken the Lykan...ba-dum-tshh

It'd be neat to explore (spooler, spec, anyone...) I like the idea of that mid-splitter in the placement of the current mazda-esque plenum razor-foil grill.

Cool. thanks VF.

The Lykan is also interesting and definitely goes along with the robo-car theme. Its a little too out there for me but I like several design aspects like the "C" pillar and the aggressive stance.

 

[Hothonda]

I agree.... the upcoming 2nd gen NSX needs a body kit of some kind.

The new 991-GT3 & GT3RS looks fantastic right out of the box at the same approximate cost.

Acura never seems to get it (in my eyes) ...why I wonder?

 

[Spooler]

Val,

your sketch is an improvement, especially reshaped Quarter panels ala HSC...a must

What are we trying to achieve though ? Like to move away from the happy face (HSC not happy lol) and sculpt an actual nose.

..the Lyken is wicked but I personally would feel ridiculous driving it...

It's just a grill..I think how the body meets it is the most important and I'm not sure I like how the hood ends in nothing...I mean ,we need a bumber of some kind.

If the others won't , I will try one but find me a different photo more suitable.

 

[vf2ss]

...like to move away from the happy face...

speaking of faces...

 

[Valkyrie Pilot]

Val,

your sketch is an improvement, especially reshaped Quarter panels ala HSC...a must

What are we trying to achieve though ? Like to move away from the happy face (HSC not happy lol) and sculpt an actual nose.

It's just a grill..I think how the body meets it is the most important and I'm not sure I like how the hood ends in nothing...I mean ,we need a bumber of some kind.

I too do not go for the happy face sports car. The NSX does not need to be another Lightning McQueen. However, I think the headlights have a sinister look even though the mouth is a bit smiling. Regarding the grill vs. bumper, what is the transition point? Does the LaFerrari have a bumper? Does the Corvette have a bumper? What is so great about a bumper? Would airplanes look better with bumpers?

I Like the way the NSX has the front framed by intake scoops on the sides and the nose is just another one of those. If you still don't like it, would it help to turn the leading edge of the hood down a bit more to be more vertical? And if you don't like the hanging lights, sheetmetal could be added underneath the lights and flow over to the nose. This would give a more traditional bumper presentation.

Not trying to force it here but I really think their design is unique and progressive and could be great if tweaked a bit. Otherwise, its just going back to older design language that's been done a million times before.

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speaking of faces...

Wow did you draw those? Some are pretty amazing and some gave me a chuckle. However I really don't see the electric razor resemblance other than the chrome splitter. That green BMW is quite interesting and spot on. Interesting that some pretty high performance cars actually have happy faces. Maybe these cars are having fun going that fast lol. Seeing the Fiskar's Face makes me think the car's design is ridiculous and rather weak.