Want to know what a QUALITY NSX is going to cost? Go buy one.....
~$60k's all-day & all-night as of now for a pre-owned V8-Vantage! Likely to be ~$50k's by later this year (for the early '06 models). . .
Either they were over-produced for certain model-years (ie. '06), over-priced in terms of MSRP/options-accessories/etc', or under-achieved relative to their competition/market-segment in terms of actual performance/handling. I'm thinking a combo' of all three!
Average-to-high miles V8-Vantage for high $40k's, though not likely anytime soon in 2009, but if possible- I'd be on it w/o a second thought. . .
Let's keep things in perspective here people.....
(for the most part I'm going to assume most people here trying to devalue a MINT condition late model 2002+ nsx does not own one)
As Hothonda said, JUST TRY TO BUY A MINT ONE for cheap, ain't going to happen!!! (I'm talking under 10k miles, one owner, mint + unmolested cars)
True the 91's can be had for about the same price as a newer s2000 these days but AT THE UPPER end of the spectrum, a 2002+ holds quite nicely against any sports car. Show me another car that MSRP is $89k and 5-6 years later can still sell for $65k+ easy if low miles, etc? Very few I think.....
Owners of early model cars know the gem they have and most are not selling unless they just got in over their heads in buying a car they cannot afford. Early model NSX's are the best deal for around $20-30k range. Later model examples are still pricey and some owners are selling because of the economy which is just fine. But the reality is that we are all "fanboys" of this car and will always value it higher than say KBB or what a dealer trades for. I totally agree with the Transformers' analogy as I have quite a few mint condition toys (Metroplex, Omega Supreme, Insecticons, Contructicons, etc)
They are priceless to me and I would never sell as I plan to showcase to my kids what their daddy used to play with...hehe!
As for the BMW e60 m5, I have NOT seen a good one for even high 30's unless you are talking super high miles at which point you'd be an idiot to buy one with the maintenance factor....you always get what you pay for! I considered one till I read about SMG issues on 06 models.
Just buy the nsx to enjoy, the rest is beyond our control really! Anyone buying a NSX hoping it would go up in value needs to be slapped silly - it's only a car. But please don't try to make people think you can buy a low mileage 04/05 nsx for $40k or some other ridiculous number.
rk
My 2002 Imola sold for full list price so yes, you won't see +02's de-valuing more than they already are.
Some deals to be had though depending on seller.
I believe Mirroredshades' post was a typo, as it's the pre-owned E46 M3 models that can be acquired for "high $20k's". The E46 M3 was available in '05-'06 & there was NO M3 model in '07; but, for '08+, the E90-lineage (E90/E92/E93) M3 was offered. . .
The E39 M5 sedan was produced up till '05. The '06+ E60 M5 sedan is in the higher $30k's, at bests. Otherwise ~$40k's for the most part in terms of low-end of the pricing spectrum. . .
Thanks for the correction...e39 ended in 2003 my friend
as long as the nsx doesnt become the new s2000 that everybody and their mom has one, im good :biggrin:
Wish to hell I would have bought a $10,000 hemi Cuda and put it in storage.
Want to know what a QUALITY NSX is going to cost? Go buy one.....
anyone know this 21k example in arlington tx? [email protected]
I believe that it's several things driving down the value of used exotics. The main thing being the quality of lower priced vehicles.
I'm 32 and I can say that the auto industry has progressed by leaps and bounds over the past 25 years. When I think what car manufacturers were making back in 1984 compared to now, it's absoultely amazing.
The problem with high end cars is that there is now less of a quality/ performance difference between a high end and low end car. I think about the fit and finish on a $14,000 Scion Tc compared with an $85,000 Acura NSX and there's not much difference anymore.
Even the options and technology that was onced reserved for higher end cars has trickled down into the lower priced vehicles.
Performance wise, the time race from 0 - 60 is getting ever closer to 0 and basically the times are almost getting irrelevant.
So where does that leave us? Holding on to vehicles that we imagine to be superior, but can actually be out classed in many different categories by less expensive and somtimes more reliable vehicles.
And it doesn't matter if we are talking about a Aston Martin, Maserati, Porsche, or NSX. We have all over valued our rides for no other reason than the "gotta have it factor".
I see what we do no different than some Transformers fanboy paying $300 for a new in the box 1984 G1 Optimus Prime compared to the one that's out in the stores now from the recent movie that goes for $40 bucks. They both do the same thing, the new one is probably actually better, but the fanboy already has it in his head that the 1984 example is just "better" and won't even consider purchasing the "new" version of Prime.