And if you absolutely must have a manual transmission:
How is the new NSX supposed to compete with this???
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Doesn't look much better .....Tacked on parts don't impress me. It looks like they tried to copy the NSX prototype's front grills.
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Absolutely awesome
I guess we are now seeing the what Hybrid/Gas power can deliver when it is properly Engineered.....This just make the NSX-2 more interesting from my perspective.
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Yea, the proto sounds amazing compared to the mp4-12c. Maybe the next iteration will sound like that too
yeah the new generation of cars will be cool with all those power boosters, will me miss the NA, stick shift cars hell yeah but that doesn't mean we wont love these either
If the new NSX can just have some of the P1 attributes at the prices mentioned i think we will all be very happy, hurry up Honda
If the new NSX can just have some of the P1 attributes at the prices mentioned i think we will all be very happy, hurry up Honda
And I hope the new NSX doesn't try to compete with this:
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/own...-gt3-warned-not-to-drive-car-after-fires.html
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/own...-gt3-warned-not-to-drive-car-after-fires.html
someone took a little too much inspiration from Ferrari :biggrin:
I agree with you on this. Almost all the people I know with brand new Porsches have them on some kind of lease program, they're mostly lawyers, doctors and entrepreneurs and they run the lease through their company for tax benefits. They don't openly disclose this information, but if you pry enough you'll find out its a lease. And they're happy to lease, because every 2-3 years they have a new whatever they want. If anything, we need those rich people leasing all these cars so that they can be abundant and therefore cheaper in the used market for us.
Many but not all.....& own their homes F&C too + don't need to clean car parts in the kitchen sink.
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f&c ?!??
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Also......
Edit: Motor Trend 4/14 issue, pp20, MT Confidential Column
"Speaking of twin turbo V6's, a source at Honda tells us
the new NSX is looking to push 550-600HP from it's twin turbo hybrid mill.
The price will be equally eye-watering, coming in at $150,000 - $180,000."
Put that in your lease calculator!
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yikes, in canada the monthly lease payments with 25-30 grand down would still be about $2500+ a month
I was at the Toronto Auto Show last week and talking to an Acura guy and when I said I had heard $130k .. he said more like $180k. Now part of that is going to be the C$ to US$ conversion but still higher than expected. He also claims that the 2015 date is later in the year not earlier. Might be due to the switch to longitudinal engine layout. All around, it's a bit depressing.
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I agree .. and the part I found interesting is that he also has experience driving the 918 and still felt the P1 was significantly raising the bar from there.
That's more in line with reality. I always hoped for about $175k. If it has the similar technology of the P1 McLaren and the power of the 12C/458/Huracan ..... It will sell well by undercutting the competition by almost $100k.
I wish they would move a bit faster, too.
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At the $180K price point, Acura will sell as many NSX as the LFA.
And Lexus had a tough time moving all 500 units. Chasing all that HP glory will leave you with a high price tag, only a handful of customers, and a long payoff period on your investments.
But Honda isn't that dumb. At $180K, there is a huge gap. It leaves room for lower priced sports car based on the same platform. Perhaps a NA V6 variant, 4 banger Turbo, nor a non-hybrid version. Maybe even a 4 door version like an updated DN-X (Dual note). Replace some exotic materials for aluminum and you get a grounded man's NSX selling perhaps 3000 units/year in USA.
There's been chatter about this but Honda wants to keep quiet on the $60-75K mini-NSX so they can focus on a successful NSX launch.
And Lexus had a tough time moving all 500 units. Chasing all that HP glory will leave you with a high price tag, only a handful of customers, and a long payoff period on your investments.
But Honda isn't that dumb. At $180K, there is a huge gap. It leaves room for lower priced sports car based on the same platform. Perhaps a NA V6 variant, 4 banger Turbo, nor a non-hybrid version. Maybe even a 4 door version like an updated DN-X (Dual note). Replace some exotic materials for aluminum and you get a grounded man's NSX selling perhaps 3000 units/year in USA.
There's been chatter about this but Honda wants to keep quiet on the $60-75K mini-NSX so they can focus on a successful NSX launch.
I agree...if Honda crosses an acceptable price point (whatever that may be)...goodbye NSX sales.
With all the problems Porsche currently has w/GT3 fires, recalls , stop sales etc...the P-car forums have been very active.
Here's another "Hitler" version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x0IwfxEF0A&feature=player_embedded
With all the problems Porsche currently has w/GT3 fires, recalls , stop sales etc...the P-car forums have been very active.
Here's another "Hitler" version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x0IwfxEF0A&feature=player_embedded
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that could be interesting, because my first thought is that at 175k, its unlikely they will be moving many units.
im not saying its not good value for the technology etc etc. but its over 100 grand more then their next most expensive product competiting in a market that it hasn't set foot in in practically a decade.
at this pricepoint is it really that likely to sway over guys who are considering the 991 turbo?
im not saying its not good value for the technology etc etc. but its over 100 grand more then their next most expensive product competiting in a market that it hasn't set foot in in practically a decade.
at this pricepoint is it really that likely to sway over guys who are considering the 991 turbo?
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Why not?? If the NSX looks hot, is fast and cost way less than other exotics .... Why wouldn't it sell at $175k ?? It would be a bargain !! I've owned lots of exotic cars; If the new NSX can out do the guys like Lambo, Ferrari, McLaren for $100k less with Acura quality ....... What's not to like !
Honda/Acura has never had a car in that price range before - doubtful many current owners can/will make that jump...I won't.
That's another $50K w/TTL (real money) over my 991....
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But, where is it written that buyers of this car must be Honda/Acura tifosi ?? If the new NSX is all that they promise, it will attract 'new' people to this brand. I don't have any brand loyalty; I just buy what attracts me. Lamborghini, McLaren, etc.
As long as the cash register rings, I doubt Honda/Acura will care where the customer came from ?
But, where is it written that buyers of this car must be Honda/Acura tifosi ?? If the new NSX is all that they promise, it will attract 'new' people to this brand. I don't have any brand loyalty; I just buy what attracts me. Lamborghini, McLaren, etc.
As long as the cash register rings, I doubt Honda/Acura will care where the customer came from ?
Acura/Honda hasn't done well with high end buyers/cross shoppers in the past.....
BTW, what is your NSX ownership history?
i can see your logic, but i for some (perhaps silly) reason believe that the biggest fans of new nsx will be those who adored (and owned) the original.
as for the new (younger) generation of potential owners, the 'young kids' that i know personally owning new caymans, 911s.... none of them really care about the nsx (new or old). these kids in their late teens saw the nsx on its way out of production.
all that i am really saying is that the more expensive the new nsx is, the greater the likely hood of an uphill climb it will be.
disclaimer - i am not in that generation of kids at all, i only wish i were that young.
as for the new (younger) generation of potential owners, the 'young kids' that i know personally owning new caymans, 911s.... none of them really care about the nsx (new or old). these kids in their late teens saw the nsx on its way out of production.
all that i am really saying is that the more expensive the new nsx is, the greater the likely hood of an uphill climb it will be.
disclaimer - i am not in that generation of kids at all, i only wish i were that young.
But, where is it written that buyers of this car must be Honda/Acura tifosi ?? If the new NSX is all that they promise, it will attract 'new' people to this brand. I don't have any brand loyalty; I just buy what attracts me. Lamborghini, McLaren, etc.
As long as the cash register rings, I doubt Honda/Acura will care where the customer came from ?
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