For anyone thinking of buying a Z06 vs NSX

[fourringpilot]

My dad bought a Z06 nine months ago. He loved it up till 5 days ago.
After coming out of a concert an hour and a half from home his car would not start. Since his entire electrical system shut down he could not even call onstar! When he finally got a hold of GM/ Onstar they told him it would be 2.5 hours before they got there. Since he was in a sketchy downtown area at midnight he decided to call AAA. They promptly responded w/a towtruck. However, when the truck driver got out he was sideswapped by another car and had his leg destroyed. All this because GM can't wire their cars correctly!!!
Soooo - who does he call at midnight to come to the rescue? Yes, me in my 94 Honda NSX. I make the drive in under a hour:smile:

The point of this true story is just because GM can make a turd go really fast doesn't mean you should go out and buy it. My$.02

PS - My dad intends to sell his Z06 Vette (first american sports car he' bought) ASAP

 

[carmar]

Wow, what a night for your dad and the tow truck driver.

I actually like the Z06 and don't mind to have it along with my NSX. It is a nice car although I think Chevolet should put more RnD on the interior and reliability.

Of course, if I was in a situation where I need to pick between the two, then the NSX will be my first choice .

 

[slamstrom]

How bad was the tow truck driver hurt?:frown: Do you know?

Did you ever get the Z06 to start or was it tow by another tow truck?

 

[cliffud]

sorry to hear about the truck driver. also - bum deal on the z06. is he getting an nsx?

 

[NSXclear]

Wow,

I feel bad for the truck driver.

I feel guilty even discussing the Z06 vs NSX when someone was injuried that badly.

I know, life goes on...but that one sentence caught me off guard.

 

[Jetpilot3]

I can understand the frustration with owning the GM product (been there done that never again) but what happened to your dad and tow truck driver is merely chance and not something guaranteed.

Life moves on second by second and your not really able to decide your fate and owning a GM product doesn't mean terrible things will happen to you.

Bad luck unfortunately.

Take for example the guy who bought the last automatic NSX produced and exported the car here - its now completely destroyed because S*%t happens.

Enjoy each day everyday!

Jetpilot

 

[Frank Spano]

New Z06 is crap!!

 

[jond]

I did a lot of research on the C5 Z06. Research as in viewing their forums every day, searching their forums for problems that owners are having, etc. I would assume the C6 build quality isn't that far off the C5's.

From what I can tell, it's not a car that's built to have 2-300,000 miles put on. In fact, I don't think I ever came across a Z06 with over 100,000 miles on it that hadn't had something major replaced.

 

[dx3]

I have a Chevy Suburban, and although it runs pretty well, it also has intermittent electrical problems. As for the NSX - it just runs like a champ! :tongue:

Jonny

 

[needspeed]

Bashing another car is a waste of time, people will like what they like and that’s all there is too it. Making another car look bad in your mind to make your choice look better is notably immature. Even NSXs fail now and then!!!!

The worst part of this story is that a human being was injured and it has nothing to do with the kind of car that broke down. I have seen almost every kind of car by the side of the road in 30+ years of driving. Any time you are on the side of the road your life and others are at risk and great precaution must be taken.

I wish folks would stop bashing other choices just to justify their own. Also, I hope the service guy comes out OK, since he does not deserve to have been injured under any circumstance. And it was not the Z06 that hit him it was some other idiot who does not know how to drive.......With all due respect.....Steve

 

[Hothonda]

C6, Z06 incl., has had extensive documented dead battery problems ("DBS" as it's called) both in '05 and '06.....do a search in any Corvette forum for the stories.

 

[fourringpilot]

How bad was the tow truck driver hurt?:frown: Do you know?

Did you ever get the Z06 to start or was it tow by another tow truck?

The driver will have full use of his leg after 6 months of rehab. The criminal driver was not caught. The Z06 was towed later that night to a Chevy dealer and sat for three days before they could even diagnose the problem. The solution was a software update.
My dad will be selling the chevy since he has owned Lexus/Toyota cars for the past 15 years and has NEVER been stranded. Being stuck at 12am in a shady area of a city because your new car w/ 900 miles on it breaks down is something no one wants. A lot worse could have happened that night.
I will bash any car that I have experienced to be poorly made/engineered. I would say buy a Vette if you plan on driving it within walking distance from your house. I told my dad about all the problems that Vettes have, but he said chevy had fixed the reliability issues. wrong...

 

[ZR-1 NSX]

Well, since it was brought up, I have to comment. My NSX and ZR-1 are both predominately garage queens, but I'll have to say that my ZR-1 can sit for months without having a start up problem because of a dead battery. My NSX won't last 2 1/2 weeks. Needs to be kept on a battery tender or else it's dead. Now using the same logic as this thread has brought up, should I sell the NSX because it won't start after a few weeks of sitting without the battery tender? The vette can sit for months and never has failed to start. Does this make the vette a better car? I certainly would agree that the amount of frustration I would feel coming out to my new Z06 with virtually no miles and being stranded would piss me off, but to completely write off the experience of owning the Vette is a little extreme. I'd be willing to bet that there are some horror stories for a few new NSX owners as well. Whether the car fails to start at midnight or noon doesn't change a thing in my book.

 

[TURBO2GO]

I will take the Z06 off your hands for $19K. :biggrin: I'll put up with the unreliability issues.

 

[fourringpilot]

Well, since it was brought up, I have to comment. My NSX and ZR-1 are both predominately garage queens, but I'll have to say that my ZR-1 can sit for months without having a start up problem because of a dead battery. My NSX won't last 2 1/2 weeks. Needs to be kept on a battery tender or else it's dead. Now using the same logic as this thread has brought up, should I sell the NSX because it won't start after a few weeks of sitting without the battery tender? The vette can sit for months and never has failed to start. Does this make the vette a better car? I certainly would agree that the amount of frustration I would feel coming out to my new Z06 with virtually no miles and being stranded would piss me off, but to completely write off the experience of owning the Vette is a little extreme. I'd be willing to bet that there are some horror stories for a few new NSX owners as well. Whether the car fails to start at midnight or noon doesn't change a thing in my book.

This is not the same logic. Why drive a car that gives you no indication that it will not start up? I would not be surprised if a car did not start properly after sitting in a garage for nearly three weeks. However, this software issue is a major engineering flaw. The lights still worked on the car. This was not a battery issue, but a computer issue. I can not understand why Chevy makes such a complex system that, when the one touch door sytem goes bad, the whole car won't start. Just stupid in my book.
That said, I would gladly have the Z06 as the back up for my NSX when it is being painted / wrenched.:biggrin:

 

[NetViper]

You must be pretty new around here. You are going to call a Z06 a peice of crap because it wouldnt start. Big deal. Have you ever heard of a snap-ring? Do a little research before you make stupid statements like that.

 

[Ponyboy]

You are going to call a Z06 a peice of crap because it wouldnt start.

Given the circumstance, what else would you call it? It can't be considered a reliable automobile. Unless the owner is a serious Corvette enthusiast and can look past the incident, I'm not sure I blame the guy for wanting to sell.

It's not an unreasonable idea for a "new" car to be expected to start w/o incident and neither is it unreasonable for wanting to sell when it doesn't.

 

[MCM]

Vette's must be better. Look how many have sold!

Just watched the Movie IDIOCRACY, seems to fit this thread some how.....:tongue:

 

[BLKDMD]

After 1500 miles of babying his z06 my friends clutch burnt out. He had to pay!!! to get it fixed.

 

[TURBO2GO]

You are going to call a Z06 a peice of crap because it wouldnt start. Big deal.

LOL.... Dave, did you just say that? :biggrin:

 

[NVR 2L8]

I guess that I am one of the lucky ones. I have both an '02 Corvette Coupe and an '05 NSX-T, a recent purchase.

To try to compare the two cars is ridiculous, in my opinion. They are completely different in styling and performance.

Which one is my favorite? I love them both equally, but for different reasons. After all, variety is the spice of life!

 

[RPM217]

Car before my 02 NSX was a 2000 C5 convertible, I had a 39 month lease. I really enjoyed driving the car, it was "brute force", loved the V8 "gurgle". At the end of the lease, I was ready for a change, never "regretted" the time spent in the Chevy. It was reliable, only problem was the front left headlight would stay up and they took 3x before they got the repair correct. Leased a 02 NSX, always loved the way the car looked, 3 years later, I bought it off my lease, still have it, still love driving it. This car is "pure finesse", don't know what my next car will be, not crazy for the "new" successor, maybe it's the R8, maybe I just keep what I've got, it still puts a "smile" on my face every time I see/drive it. If it was "unreliable" it'd be gone.

 

[NetViper]

Given the circumstance, what else would you call it? It can't be considered a reliable automobile. Unless the owner is a serious Corvette enthusiast and can look past the incident, I'm not sure I blame the guy for wanting to sell.

It's not an unreasonable idea for a "new" car to be expected to start w/o incident and neither is it unreasonable for wanting to sell when it doesn't.

Here is the deal. If his dad bought this car and it repeatedly had problems and would not start, then sure, sell it. If obviously has some issues. BUT, that is not that case. It did not start ONE time. ONE.

Hell, my NSX standed me too. Was it a peice of crap? No, it just happend to have a bad main fuel relay. Was I pissed about it.. Hell yes, but would I sell my car because one problem? No. I fixed it and it was good to go. Did I go on Corvette forums and tell them to never buy a NSX because my main fuel relay went bad so it is a POS. No.

It sounds like his dad needs to take the car to the dealership and get it fixed. Afterall, it is under warranty for another 2 years at least.

The bottom line is fourringpilot's thread is rediculous. He is telling everyone the Z06 is a POS because his dad's car didn't start one time in 9 months.

PS. What does he want for this POS Z06? Since it is obviously garbage, I would be willing to pay 30K under Market Value. Let me know.

 

[NetViper]

Wow, what a night for your dad and the tow truck driver.

I actually like the Z06 and don't mind to have it along with my NSX. It is a nice car although I think Chevolet should put more RnD on the interior and reliability.

Of course, if I was in a situation where I need to pick between the two, then the NSX will be my first choice .

Not to defend the vette, but have you seen the 08 interior LT4 package? It is nicer than the NSX IMO. I say this for one reason -- it is all leather, not 3/4 vinyl. The bad part is it is a $3500 option.

C6's are not unreliable cars from everything I know. There are a few known issues -- just like any car. I can't speak for C5's since I don't own one, but my dad has a 2002 and it has never been in the shop once.

It might surprise you to know that the C6 made forbes top 10 list of car for holding their value.

For those of you that don't know, I bought a C6 a while ago. Not a single issue to date. I love both the NSX (had 2) and the C6.

 

[mickeylex]

I see several Z06's on the road every week (sometimes every day) and I have to admit, they do look nice.