The GTR will still be fat, the ZR-1 will still be just a Corvette that Aunt Stacy tools around because she thinks its cute with the top off and the 458 Scuderia is no where near the same price league. Also the 458 has been on the dyno several times and it is overated. The whp is a lot lower than claimed hp, even though the 1/4 mile times are excellent.
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The GTR will still be fat, the ZR-1 will still be just a Corvette that Aunt Stacy tools around because she thinks its cute with the top off and the 458 Scuderia is no where near the same price league. Also the 458 has been on the dyno several times and it is overated. The whp is a lot lower than claimed hp, even though the 1/4 mile times are excellent.
For me driving is a tactile experience so I want a clutch pedal and stick shift. Paddle-shifting may be faster, but I think it takes some of the finesse out of driving. Guess I'm getting dated... I'll still be happy to test-drive the new NSX when it comes out though!:smile:
another blurb from msn http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blog...3-c200-422b-a7f7-58c2de3da5ad&icid=autos_2222
hmm... haven't seen this rendering before, might be more accurate
At the Detroit auto show in January, Honda will bring back the Ferrari-fighting Acura NSX--a new version of the mid-engine supercar that disappeared in 2005 after a 15-year run.
But instead of a monster engine,
the NSX will have a compact, direct-injection V6 teamed with a lithium ion battery pack.
I sure hope thats incorrect "We are not satisfied with Acura's current positioning," Honda Motor Co. CEO Takanobu Ito said this month at the Tokyo Motor Show. "We want to showcase interesting and fun technologies and show excellent environmental performance."<!--EndofExcerptMarker-->
Re: Ferrari fighting? LOL
How misleading can you get?
As Peter De Lorenzo wrote (and I quoted above) a few days ago,
Honda has been silently saying this for years: enthusiasts are inconsequential. So Keep good care of the car you've got. There won't be another.
How misleading can you get?
As Peter De Lorenzo wrote (and I quoted above) a few days ago,
Honda has been silently saying this for years: enthusiasts are inconsequential. So Keep good care of the car you've got. There won't be another.
Executives say that today's luxury cars have more power than they need, and that premium-vehicle buyers now care more about mpg than mph
Honda Motor Co. CEO Takanobu Ito said
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So after i read the article on msn.. Honda said that they are not sure yet when the next NSX will be on production? I thought that it will be produced at 2013? What is the news about? Will there be NSX?
Someone help me on this. A co-worker and I in a discussion. He thinks they are actually going to call the new car "NSX" I told him I don't think its been confirmed what it will be called yet. Is there any actual reference to what it will be called?
I really like the NSX and have been painfully disappointed time after time when what looked like the possibility of a replacement car has fallen apart for one reason or another.
This thread was really interesting and exciting to that point but has dissolved into something else and that's a drag because this IS the place to find out about the NSX and this type of information.
This thread was really interesting and exciting to that point but has dissolved into something else and that's a drag because this IS the place to find out about the NSX and this type of information.
I am not surprised at all that a dealership is willing to take your money now for a purchase in the future.
I would be VERY surprised at 6 months though for them placing an order. More likely there will be "unforeseen delays".
This new NSX is purposely designed to compete against the Nissan GT-R, Porsche and Audi R8. Given this information, we know the new NSX is not just a performer but a luxurious sports car. GT-R is proving that they can build a car under $100k that can match the performance of exotics and supercars priced over $200,000.
My feeling is that the NSX lineage has never been established with only one version under its belt. It was Honda's attempt to showcase it's engineering capability thus dubbing it as the new sportscar experimental. In which it is more meant as a benchmark.
There is nothing wrong with FR setup, now the cooling will require less liquid to travel to the radiator and a smaller package. The hybrid setup is really the path of the future. You can configure the weight distribution more evenly, lower the center of gravity and most importantly getting the most efficiency. Electric motors is like having nitrous, providing instant torque from the huge power band. Having 2 smaller electric motors also helps reduce the torsional forces and work better for traction control. It would be better if they are going to make the brakes electrically powered as well, eliminating the need for hydraulic pumps and lines. No parasitic power loss, less heat buildup and reduced weight.
You guys should check out the new Tesla Model S. It's a car that reminds me of the NSX, a benchmark car. Ultra quiet and with so much more interior room. The performance model is capable of a 4.4 sec 0-60 on a large sedan that weighs 1,000 lbs less than its competitors. The BMW M5 has 560 HP and does 0-60 in 4.4 sec as well.
So I see this new NSX more of an affordable Porsche 918 Spyder. If they are targeting the GT-R which has a 0-60 of 2.9 sec. The new NSX is possibly capable of doing that with electric motor assist. If the total power output is 500-600hp it would be a dream come true. 450hp is more than enough for everyday driving, while you have the extra power on tap. There's no reason to have 500-600hp for everyday, as no one is going to be racing every second driving the car. Extra power always good for passing, accelerating coming out of a corner and launching. This means the car will be more economical to drive daily if the electric motors are used for solely for stop and go conditions on economy mode.
Just my 2 cents.
My feeling is that the NSX lineage has never been established with only one version under its belt. It was Honda's attempt to showcase it's engineering capability thus dubbing it as the new sportscar experimental. In which it is more meant as a benchmark.
There is nothing wrong with FR setup, now the cooling will require less liquid to travel to the radiator and a smaller package. The hybrid setup is really the path of the future. You can configure the weight distribution more evenly, lower the center of gravity and most importantly getting the most efficiency. Electric motors is like having nitrous, providing instant torque from the huge power band. Having 2 smaller electric motors also helps reduce the torsional forces and work better for traction control. It would be better if they are going to make the brakes electrically powered as well, eliminating the need for hydraulic pumps and lines. No parasitic power loss, less heat buildup and reduced weight.
You guys should check out the new Tesla Model S. It's a car that reminds me of the NSX, a benchmark car. Ultra quiet and with so much more interior room. The performance model is capable of a 4.4 sec 0-60 on a large sedan that weighs 1,000 lbs less than its competitors. The BMW M5 has 560 HP and does 0-60 in 4.4 sec as well.
So I see this new NSX more of an affordable Porsche 918 Spyder. If they are targeting the GT-R which has a 0-60 of 2.9 sec. The new NSX is possibly capable of doing that with electric motor assist. If the total power output is 500-600hp it would be a dream come true. 450hp is more than enough for everyday driving, while you have the extra power on tap. There's no reason to have 500-600hp for everyday, as no one is going to be racing every second driving the car. Extra power always good for passing, accelerating coming out of a corner and launching. This means the car will be more economical to drive daily if the electric motors are used for solely for stop and go conditions on economy mode.
Just my 2 cents.
Forgot to mention that the prototype will be unveiled in Detroit on Jan 9, 2012. I won't be surprised if it end up looking like the HSV because they already built it and has verbally fit the description of 5 led headlights with a very low front nose.
Except that it creates a long nose with less visibility and more importantly ruins the car's proportions. We didn't get rid of the back seats so we can have an engine in the front. We got rid of it because an engine is more important than kids. :biggrin:
You would really want to replace your car with one that will most likely be slower on a track?
If I'm stylin'... sure...
LOL... I'm kidding. Why don't we hold off judgment until we know what it is. I doubt it will be slow in any way, unless wingZ is behind the wheel.
These motors are used for traction and wheel control, a perfect match for SHAWD... "hybrid" doesn't mean slow. It just means Hybrid.
Acura says "New NSX Concept" and we have 17pgs of guys who see nothing but "New NSX".
I see nothing but "concept"
They're bringing a model to Detroit and you guys are talking about deposits??
I see nothing but "concept"
They're bringing a model to Detroit and you guys are talking about deposits??
Got the same feeling like you have at year 2008 when I saw the car in the show room. Now at my work, saw Numi Tesla sign every day, but you just can't buy the car. Tesla Model S is just a photo on the cover. If I use model S to travel between SF to LA, I need to place a diesel or gasoline power generator in the trunk, otherwise it won’t get the trip complete. Let's give those cars another 10 years.
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Do you think they'll kick me out of the Detroit Auto show if I make a deposit on the MODEL while I'm there ?
Are you reading the same things we are? because I read 2013 NSX.
Tesla S can now be ordered. There is a price sheet and options page for those who have a deposit. If you want to go SF to LA, most people take a plane or you can take a standard car? I don't see why a car can't be viable with a 300 mile range when most people drive less than 50 miles to and from work. You are right there are some limitations but its still a great car for most situations. The model S is fantastic. But we are hijacking the thread now.
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Tesla S can be ordered during 2009 already, but financial problem is surrounding Tesla. It is a good car with flat torque.
in related news from WSJ :
Honda Motor Co. plans to shift a major chunk of its manufacturing to North America over the next two years, bulking up production capacity in the region by as much as 40% to combat a strengthening yen that has made Japanese cars too expensive to export around the world.
The 63-year-old car maker is accelerating its move away from Japanese manufacturing after huge challenges this year. Natural disasters and the yen's gains have pummeled its production and profit.
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So the new NSX could be made in Tochigi, Suzuka, or somewhere USA ?
Honda Motor Co. plans to shift a major chunk of its manufacturing to North America over the next two years, bulking up production capacity in the region by as much as 40% to combat a strengthening yen that has made Japanese cars too expensive to export around the world.
The 63-year-old car maker is accelerating its move away from Japanese manufacturing after huge challenges this year. Natural disasters and the yen's gains have pummeled its production and profit.
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So the new NSX could be made in Tochigi, Suzuka, or somewhere USA ?
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