Dal Disaster

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Location
Hoschton, GA, USA
Mid-Ohio,

DAL took a hard blow last week:( During our now familiar rush before a race, we asked an acquaintance to transport the original Black #51 car to meet before heading out with our rig in route to the Mid-Ohio race. The driver lost control of my truck and trailer that carried our now deceased race car. The driver seems to have superficial injuries. Everything rolled and is now a total loss, some of the performance parts can be salvaged, but a replacement car may not be in the near future. Unfortunately the 51 nor the trailer look like they have insurance coverage. Conservative $80k was invested into the 51, and as a team were for the most part spent.

The second big blow was that leading up to Mid-Ohio we signed Pete Halsmer and Benoit Theetge to run this car. (Both Pete and Benoit have won here at Mid-Ohio) We fitted the 51 with a 3.2 and 6-speed. This along with the new series concessions for the NSX, made us a favored entry.

It just wasn’t meant to be… we now had 4 drivers and only one car. Pete and I decided to sit out, Pete already had a ride in the HART Rolex NSX, and I am happy to settle for some seat time to build on for next year. Even our 3.0 5-speed car was fast, Me, Vaughn, and Benoit practiced in the promoter test day within the top 6. After testing we checked the corner balance and alignment to find that we were way off due to a suspension set-up error. We spent the night re-working and knew we would be among the leaders the next day. Benoit was very happy with the car and says that with the 3.2 and 6-speed, we should be a frequent threat for podium positions. Because were under the spot light right now, we opted to stay under the radar and practice with used tires and a full tank. Our strategy was to have Vaughn qualify because his times were normal for the series and getting faster every stint. The qualifier is required to drive first, and would allow Benoit (with the pace setting times) to finish the race presumably up front. Were also one of the few cars who can occasionally make only one stop in a race… lowest HP in the series means less fuel consumption! (Oh, and this was one of those races) If any one was following our times, we get a consistent 2 second drop in lap times with new tires and a near empty fuel tank. Those times would have put us in the top two with only one fuel stop.

I mentioned that we were in the spotlight- The series hired a mobile dyno and randomly test various cars. We were one of them! We made 265 RWHP in these conditions. Corrected HP is 275 on recently calibrated and more reliable dyno the week before. It has made as much as 279 in optimal conditions. I stalked the dyno while the Cadillac’s were running (I wish I saw the 350z’s) well the Caddy’s made 349 vs. our 265. I think we have an argument for more power.

Anyway all was going as planned, Vaughn was just getting comfortable in qualifying, when the engine let go. In the pits we see an almost unbelievable amount of smoke billowing over the hill in turn 6, shortly after that we were informed it was our car. Further investigation showed that we lost a valve that ultimately punched through the block. Another big blow. I cant say that I’m sure were going to recover from this, we expended everything we had to make this event matter… the tough part for me is that our final blow might be caused by driving skills that weren’t even race related.
 
Real sorry to hear of the team's loss. I was looking forward to see where you guys ended up. I know it's devastating but perhaps something better will come around the corner.

Hoping for the best.
 
Very, very sad to read your string of bad luck. :eek: Hope it turns around and quickly, the future has got to be brighter.
 
coolnsx said:
Very, very sad to read your string of bad luck. :eek: Hope it turns around and quickly, the future has got to be brighter.
Its unfortunate that Team DAL was hit as hard this weekend. Hopefully you can pick up some of the pieces and consolidate where it makes sense (e.g., take 3.2L/6 speed from the wrecked #51 and put into the second car, using the 3.0/5 as a backup motor, etc).

I remember the SpeedTV folks mentioning that you were "granted" some reduced penalty weight... if anything else, the glaring hp disparity should've been offset even more. :confused:

Its been a lot of fun watching your progress over the past 2+ seasons -- hopefully you guys can find a way to still stay in the game :)
 
Wow, when it rains it pours .......!

While this is no consolation, you have ascribe to one of those things that happen in racing. I guess it would have been easier to swallow if it had happened after Pete and Benoit had raced the 3.2/6.
 
What horrible news:( All I can say is what dos'nt kill you makes you stronger!Only you guys can figure out if you can mount another campain.I for one hope you do.I for one would also like to help,with a donation.If you guys are going to start over let us know,I'll send some bucks:)
 
If the Dal team wants to regroup and is accepting of $ from our community then I'm in. Any of the administraters want to coordinate a pledge thread,once we hear from them(Dal team):)
 
.....$ from our community then I'm in.

My wife mentioned exactly this, last night.

160 x $200 = high-mileage coupe replacement car.

We need a central coordinator for this. Unfortunately, as many people are on PRIME and as many track stars there are here that live vicariously through Team DAL, I doubt there are 157 other financial sympathizers out there.
 
Wow… I have to say that I’m overwhelmed and feel somewhat uncomfortable with the generous responses. (If you know me personally, not much shocks me anymore) nsx1164 has the right idea, were planning to put the 3.2 and 6-speed in the Red car. Our personal debate is who should drive. We have found that sponsor relationships are developed based on Hard Work, Luck (Sometimes who you know), and especially Wins. On one hand it seems to make sense to have veterans like Halsmer and Benoit drive, as they have a better chance of winning. On the other hand Vaughn and I are fast, but truly can’t compare to other equally fast drivers who know the tracks already. Seasons or time will make us faster as we get familiar with the tracks around the country… that’s the catch 22 if we don’t drive we don’t learn the tracks. So we have been debating what’s more important- Racing now or building a solid future? Our original plan incorporated both, unfortunately it took risky investments that compromise our financial security. My opinion is that I have to find a way to build that second car… without it I don’t drive.

While feeling sorry for my self I forgot to tell everyone about the track! Mid-Ohio, I know it better as the place where the Runoffs are held. The Runoffs are the finals for the SCCA, arguably the biggest event of a road course racers amateur career. I’ve seen Mid Ohio on Speed many times, and had the impression this place was a run down, mediocre excuse for a race course. I had some negative bias going in, as Road Atlanta was the place for the runoffs before Ohio took over… Oh, I live 5 minutes from Road Atlanta and would rather have the runoffs here. If any one knows the history of why they moved, I’m interested? I always figured it had something to do with Don Panoz becoming the new owner of RA at about the same time as the move. Anyway… Back to Mid-Ohio. My prejudice was miss founded! This is a great road course, especially for the NSX. 15ish turns with awesome variety. Its character is that it’s old, and has gone through many changes. The harsh cold winters, and hot summers have flexed and shifted this track over the years. It’s loaded with patches and abrupt dips and bumps. It’s a drivers road course and the most technical I have driven. Areas in natural breaking zones require hesitation before you can, as well as natural throttle areas that require coasting before you could get the grip to put the throttle down, a section of the track required short shifting to utilize torque instead of snappy power, or you would surely get loose. Yep this was a drivers track, Vaughn and I agreed that after walking the track with Benoit we accelerated our curve by weeks of driving days… that in our case would take years. Many of the speed secrets were not the logical or textbook solutions, and would have taken a lot of experimentation, if we found them at all. It was cool to see that our car was not surpassed by any other in the technical sections… not even the touring cars.
 
Wow, what a bad weekend, sorry to hear it!

I do not really understand how the car on the trailer could be a total loss unless it burst into flames or something. I can see the chassis being toast but it seems that almost all the guts could put transplanted onto another chassis. I would think that with some patience a car with maybe a trashed drivetrain and/or some light damage would pop up somewhere for low-teens or better. Certainly with all the time and expense to get it going it is still a major setback but far shy of $80k, yes?

I know you've probably already thougt of all that but I'm just trying to throw out some ideas.

Anyway if you guys decide to rebuild and keep racing I would be happy to coordinate a donation fund as docjohn suggested.
 
After having a role in the aftermath (Rob and I are somewhat neighbors), I can attest to the magnitude of the heartache and sense of loss from this disaster. The Black #51 was one of the best prepared full-race NSXs in the country... :(

The driver of the tow vehicle that crashed is a friend of mine and Rob's, and we are relieved that he was not more severly injured.

Good Luck to DAL Motorsports for the future!
 
Hi Lud,

Yes we defiantly have salvageable parts. All four corners have been affected, and two corners of the suspension are toast. It’s hard to say if the two minor corners are straight or not. The front and rear sections of frame are damaged beyond repair, and the roof and pillars are tweaked more then ¾”. The nose, hood, left front fender, left door, windshield, left quarter, trunk, rear wing, rear bumper, right quarter, and right fender are all damaged. I think the passenger door can be salvaged. The rear hatch frame is tweaked, but the glass is not broke… maybe if the glass is removed, it can be straightened. Two rims, radiator, dash are damaged… from their I haven’t gone any further. It looks like the car rolled, it just never touched the roof. Oh, the cage is ok if it’s not bent, but I’m not sure if it would cost more to cut out and have installed in another, or start from scratch. I don’t think the series would allow us to splice, so we would have to re-make most of the hoops anyway. Your right about this being less money then it sounds. I’m thinking that 20 to 25k could get us back on the track with me doing all the work. I’m thinking 10 to 15 for a salvage car (But not always available when you want them) 3 to 5 for the cage and strut work, 3 to 5 for an engine, and what ever is left for parts, paint and decals. This will happen! I’m just not sure when.

I just got off the phone with my wife who got teary eyed when I described to her the reaction I found this morning on Prime! Ok maybe it got to me too.
 
Sign up me as a community sponsor. I'd be happy to help out.

I want pit passes though! ;)

Never give up, Rob!
 
Sorry to hear about your loss. Talked to susan at goodson today and got some of the gorry details.

I've got an idea. Most of us have some spare parts for our NSX's. You see guys posting a garage clearout sale all the time. Maybe we can hold an auction with all monies donated to the DAL motorsports team.

For example, I have a set of 15/16's rims that could be auctioned with proceeds going for the DAL fund
 
Very sorry to hear about your trouble! Good luck getting everything back on track (pun intended!). Glad nobody was hurt.
 
To all who have rallied with support: DAL suffered some pretty heavy losses last week but most heartbreaking for me was the thought that it might have done critical injury to their hopes and dreams. You have done much to renew their spirit...and mine. I’m proud of DAL, I’m proud of Rob, and I’m proud he’s associated with such good people. From my heart...thank you.
Diana Morrison.
 
kenjiMR said:
Have you guys considered downgrading your dreams to running Honda Challenge instead? It might be cheaper as well as allow you to improve your skills and learn the tracks.

Honda-Challenge currently does not allow heavily modified NSX's. The rules are set so that all Honda cars are competitive with one another. And even then, the series seems big on either coast but not for those "land-locked." Texas has a HC series but it looks as if participation is small at best.

FWIW, I'd love to see an NSX only race series (along the lines of ViperDays) or club racing similar to what the BMWCCA and PCA does. The easiest way to get this done would be for Honda-Challenge to allow a class for prepared (on various levels) NSX's or have the NSXCA sponsor something along the same lines. Maybe have specific regions host an event?

Anyway, that was off-topic and probably deserves it's own thread.
 
To echo Rob's response to the kindness showed by the individuals in this thread... I am also taken back. This is very uplifing.

I believe we have come up with a cool way to give back to the individuals who are interested in helping. I am bouncing this off of Lud as NSXPrime is essential to my original idea.
Anyone heard from Lud this week? I only have his email that is posted in the contact area. Privite me if there is a better: [email protected].

Thanks!!
-Vaughn
 
I'm at the ready,and I guess we are waiting for an organized donation methodology.Don't be bashful guys,,If you want to do a bake sale,I love cupcakes!:p
 
What's the latest with an organized fundraiser for the DAL team? My PayPal account is itching.
 
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