Would/when will you desert the U.S.A.??

I'm a natural born U.S. citizen and I...

  • ...would never, ever leave the U.S. permanently.

    Votes: 43 45.3%

  • ...might leave the U.S. if things got bad enough (but think that's unlikely)

    Votes: 28 29.5%

  • ...kind of expect to leave in the next 10-20 years (taxes!)

    Votes: 9 9.5%

  • ...kind of expect to leave in the next 1-10 years b/c the U.S. is crumbling

    Votes: 15 15.8%
  • Total voters
    95
Ski_Banker

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I was a Boy Scout (Life rank). I pledged allegiance. I'd don't even remotely mind doing the same in school or at a sports match. I'm white and Anglo, for what that's worth.

But... I don't think I'll be a U.S. citizen for my entire life. (I know what, even writing that, means...). I'll pursue my career, globally, wherever people need help and I feel like moving/living.

I'm a U.S. citizen. A Boy Scout. A person with utmost integrity. I took care of my dying mother, with cancer, and gave up a year's Wall Street bonus/salary/career progression. The chair of [top 5 wall st bank] couldn't even believe I was leaving just to take car of my mother...

Anyway, I'm going to move wherever makes the most sense globally for me/family/friends, which is most likely NOT the U.S. of A. I hate to think that Rome fell, but it did..........

Ski
 
Damn Ski, that's pretty hard core. I know how you feel though, when did it become okay to be a moderate? And when did it become acceptable for statists to run for president?... I guess for a while now.

I'd be interested to hear you elaborate on the reasoning behind your decision.
 
If the country was somehow taken over by a communist government, I would certainly try to leave with my family. If I was still able bodied, I would probably participate in a coup.

A neo-socialist government akin to Chavez's Venezuela would probably get me on a plane too.
 
NsXMas said:
As nice as other parts of the world are, the US is still one of the best places to live.
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Correction - the USA is still THE best place to live.

I think Ski is disappointed in the direction of our country - though I don't want to speak for him. We also certainly have a lot of new enemies - which is very disconcerning from a safety perspective. I must admit that the populist rhetoric I hear from the Dems disgusts me, and I'm not too thrilled with McCain... so I'm not loving our near future.
 
NsXMas said:
Wow, where did this thread come from?

Having moved to the US from another country, I can say I will never desert the USA.

I also have lived, studied, and worked overseas. As nice as other parts of the world are, the US is still one of the best places to live.

Are you panicking because of the economy?
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No. Although that's a good, obvious question.

I'm not panicking due to anything. I can do just fine in my career living practically anywhere in the world. (but, I realize I'm lucky like that... many very talented folks aren't as economically mobile). Point being... I'd probably have written the same in 1965, 1975, 1985, or 1995.

Or 1984.
 
Maybe you should just re-locate out of "The projects"

Try it if you like, thats the great thing about being an American.
Your free to go. (unlike the 10 million trying to sneak in every day)
 
i am actually considering leaving here right now, as i search for a new job. i can't say that i would never come back (NY will always be home), but it would be nice to experience life in a completely different culture, setting, etc. however, i can't say i'd actually miss the US :rolleyes:
 
You're such a putz.:biggrin: Actually I think that's a great idea, with one exception. I had a client in Israel that I was taking public while I lived in San Francisco. That resulted in my getting up at 2:00 a.m. for conference calls.:eek:

I really think I've been extremely fortunate in life. My bachelors and masters degrees are in international business. I've lived and worked in Asia, Latin America, Europe, Northern Africa, and the Middle East. I lived overseas for over 20 years. It was a wonderful experience. I speak a few languages and I consider myself multi-cultural. I even had my first NSX when I lived in the UK.

When I was going through my divorce when I lived in North Carolina I really began to think about where I wanted to live when the divorce was finalized. I had lived in New York City off and on for years and thought about that. Decided the weather sucked, so blew that off. Then I thought I would move to Buenos Aires. My parents are getting older so I put that off. Then in a microsecond, it was San Francisco. I really think it the best city in the United States, and I had lived here on three other occasions.

A lot of Americans used to ask me if I didn't like the United States and if that's the reason I lived in foreign countries. I would replay that I love this country, and I really think it's the best place on the planet to live. I just wanted to understand other cultures, see different parts of the world, etc., etc.

Go for it.

Doug
 
Sorry Ski,Ive been all over Gods' green earth and given the choice of living somewhere I gladly choose our USA.Of course there are plenty of great places I'd rather vacation in:wink:
 
Ski_Banker said:
No worries...It won't hurt.
(Red... I'll buy ya some some tax free smokes if I can crash at ur place for a spell, and as long as your hot young daughter stays away this time)! hehe
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Gawd. That was nasty, even from you.:eek:
 
Ski_Banker said:
I was a Boy Scout (Life rank). I pledged allegiance. I'd don't even remotely mind doing the same in school or at a sports match. I'm white and Anglo, for what that's worth.

But... I don't think I'll be a U.S. citizen for my entire life. (I know what, even writing that, means...). I'll pursue my career, globally, wherever people need help and I feel like moving/living.

I'm a U.S. citizen. A Boy Scout. A person with utmost integrity. I took care of my dying mother, with cancer, and gave up a year's Wall Street bonus/salary/career progression. The chair of [top 5 wall st bank] couldn't even believe I was leaving just to take car of my mother...

Anyway, I'm going to move wherever makes the most sense globally for me/family/friends, which is most likely NOT the U.S. of A. I hate to think that Rome fell, but it did..........

Ski
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Ya know I'm still trying. I didn't except that offer I had in London. It just wasn't right for me. :redface: Part of the move is getting away from things you don't like and finding what makes life really enjoyable.
My exit strategy is 3yrs.
How are things in that posh little area Ski.. or have you moved and since started pickin up some of the bri-ish cockney accent yeeeaa.
Man I wish I was exiting the tube right now and having myself a pint.
 
I can't think of anywhere else I'd rather live than the U.S. Sure travel is nice, and there are great places to visit... but I don't think I'd ever live somewhere else. But people like to talk about it. I mean hell shouldn't Alec Baldwin, Susan Suranden and her hubby all be living in Canada right now? And where are they again? Exactly. :rolleyes: I wish the people that don't like it here really would leave so I wouldn't have to hear the whining anymore.
 
Interesting thread. I was thinking the same thing.
I'm thinking 30 years from now, when it's time for me to retire, I'm going to have no social security, and no health care. By what logic should I stay? Why not move somewhere that cares for it's people?


This is what made me first start thinking about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-16u9x3tfE

It's Glen Beck talking to the head of the U.S. Government Accountability Office, David Walker, about baby boomers on social security and how it could bring America to it's knees. Right now, every single household owes $400,000 to the gov to make the program work. AKA, the gov is bankrupt.
 
Lots of upper class Americans are moving to Mexico. Dollar goes a long way and a big house on the beach is still pretty cheap.
 
I'll probably never leave. I am very appreciative of what our founding fathers sacrificed for the birth of our great country. I enjoy my RIGHTS and have FREEDOM! Can you tell I am thankful to be born an American?:wink:

What more should I ask for? Free Health Care? Social Security? It would be nice to know that all the money I contribute in my paycheck will be there when I am old enough to collect, but I don't count on it. I have heard that taxes are higher in other countries and with the weak dollar doesn't it make it that much harder to relocate?

If I do anything, I will buy a big piece of land in the mountains and practice my right to bear arms!!!:biggrin: Its a buyers market too!

:smile: God BLESS the U.S.A :smile:
 
I can't really disagree with Ski because I have no idea what it's like to live in another country. I sure don't like how much money I give the government. I really don't care about pride or history, just me and my family and friends, so that sure wouldn't affect my decision. Maybe I need to go on a few long vacations to figure it out. I'm not sure I could make a living anywhere else though.
 
Ski - if you're feeling disillusioned about the US, come move to Australia. We have one of the best lifestyles in the world. And our ladies aren't too shabby either. :D
 
Ski_Banker said:
I hate to think that Rome fell, but it did..........Ski
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Yes my family and I are prepared to bail out the moment we see that theres no turning back... hopefully the recession is just temporary but theres always that inkling that the American economy is just due for a collapse. A society built on debt can not sustain itself indefinitely. Especially with poor leadership that continues to spend borrowed money. China might be coming to collect one of these days... and it may not be in a very nice way either.:redface: I'm not sure if I want to be here when their 2 million man army (or however many) comes knocking on our door. :eek:

New Zealand! :biggrin:
 

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