Where are all the Production deliveries ??
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No, but used prices at a level I'm willing to pay for, will push folks like me off the fence and into the buyer's pile. I'm interested, but am waiting for depreciation to set in so I can score a used car.
Yea, but that's not gonna help Honda's bottom line tho so they are not going to care.
I am right there with you. As soon the price is right. This is nothing against the MSRP of the NSX. I just would never buy any car brand new. I don't need to have that fresh feeling like some.
But after you buy the NSX, you're gonna want your new NSX to hold some value over the years if not appreciate over time due to limited quantity.
I am right there with you. As soon the price is right. This is nothing against the MSRP of the NSX. I just would never buy any car brand new. I don't need to have that fresh feeling like some.
But after you buy the NSX, you're gonna want your new NSX to hold some value over the years if not appreciate over time due to limited quantity.
Certainly no buyer likes to see the resale (or discounted new) market fall through the floor, but (apart from some speculators in first few months of production), no one is buying the NSX as an investment or expecting it to appreciate over time. If I'm wrong on this, I would be happy to "sell calls" at MSRP for MY2017 cars exercisable in five years.
Tell that to Carrera GT and Ford GT owners tho. I'm not saying it'll happen for the NSX, but I'm just saying that you don't want BMW or Audi resale values for the mass majority of their cars.
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The update:
The NSX Specialists had not heard about the US cars being shipped with car covers.
The response also included a point about the paint curing. As you can use your Acura branded car cover as soon as you take delivery, I do not believe the shipping cover creates an issue with paint breathing like wax or a wrap would.
They were surprised by the poor sales in May. Acura sales folks are stressed.
There is hope that the racing results will help sell cars.
I shared with him the observation that people perceive the car as not angry enough. There was a poster on Acurazine who did an exotic experience in Atlanta and had an awesome time in the NSX. He also communicated that there were very few people signing up to drive the NSX and the company who does the drive events is planning to drop the car from their line up.
The factory has slowed production to avoid more cars stacking up at dealerships.
Unclear if more desert test drives will happen but folks who couldn't make that one were offered local CA test drives.
They will request test drives at NSXPO.
Unclear if the factory will stop building 2017 US cars once they get to 800. Kind of doubt it.
Three cars have been wrecked and another had a cracked body panel (easy repair). The car Honda bought from the Copart auction is still in CA. The car that went over the boulders is back at the factory. It still needs to be taken apart for an on site cost appraisal.
Acura will have 2 folks who will go out into the field as needed to help dealer do appraisals. They will have a Star Trek type camera to help determine is the frame is out of whack and this will aid in the cost to repair estimates.
Regarding the door vibration thing, the car that had the inner door panel replaced may have happened because the technician wrote it up as a loose panel (etc.) and a replacement was ordered. This is not a known fix. They know about the approaches that the Master shared and that there can be some vibration/wiggling of the door mounted tweeters.
No news on better leases.
The NSX Specialists had not heard about the US cars being shipped with car covers.
The response also included a point about the paint curing. As you can use your Acura branded car cover as soon as you take delivery, I do not believe the shipping cover creates an issue with paint breathing like wax or a wrap would.
They were surprised by the poor sales in May. Acura sales folks are stressed.
There is hope that the racing results will help sell cars.
I shared with him the observation that people perceive the car as not angry enough. There was a poster on Acurazine who did an exotic experience in Atlanta and had an awesome time in the NSX. He also communicated that there were very few people signing up to drive the NSX and the company who does the drive events is planning to drop the car from their line up.
The factory has slowed production to avoid more cars stacking up at dealerships.
Unclear if more desert test drives will happen but folks who couldn't make that one were offered local CA test drives.
They will request test drives at NSXPO.
Unclear if the factory will stop building 2017 US cars once they get to 800. Kind of doubt it.
Three cars have been wrecked and another had a cracked body panel (easy repair). The car Honda bought from the Copart auction is still in CA. The car that went over the boulders is back at the factory. It still needs to be taken apart for an on site cost appraisal.
Acura will have 2 folks who will go out into the field as needed to help dealer do appraisals. They will have a Star Trek type camera to help determine is the frame is out of whack and this will aid in the cost to repair estimates.
Regarding the door vibration thing, the car that had the inner door panel replaced may have happened because the technician wrote it up as a loose panel (etc.) and a replacement was ordered. This is not a known fix. They know about the approaches that the Master shared and that there can be some vibration/wiggling of the door mounted tweeters.
No news on better leases.
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Car covers that can even be used outside, are usually made from some type of breathable material than allows air but not liquid through (like Gore-Tex does).
Shipping covers like what Audi uses and I'm sure will also be on the NSX are breathable. Which is all that matters for the paint cure. If you were to cover the car with like plastic (and OMG why would you), then that would be no different than a wax, polymer sealant, or PPF/wrap.
Surprised that the ACR specialists didn't get that memo. They usually know about all things NSX before anyone at the dealer level does and in some cases before other parts of American Honda that have contact with the NSX as well.
with the slower production and acura sales stressing... do you think the new NSX will even continue? I feel like they might abandon ship and head more for the 30-50k sport car segment. The type R already has high praises and huge "waiting list" of people wanting it..with that said if that goes through and they only made 1/2 years for the new NSX it would be a lot more desired.
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N Spec is right. although it benefits buyers of "pre-owned" NSX's get a good initial deal, you don't want to see your $140,000 car drop like a rock and be worth $80,000 in three years. that isn't good for anyone, except again, initial buyers...
no chance of that happening, Honda spent waaaaaaaaaay too much money on this car to abandon it right away. they may abandon it over time the way they did with the first NSX, but they won't dump it for a while. they have to try and recoup some of their investment. good luck to them, the prospects of that happening don't look good...
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Acura is going to keep building the NSX, though at a reduced rate.
I am sure there will be some reaction to the sales issues and they will do something, but I wouldn't expect anything until at lease MY 2019.
The Hybrid tech serves as a reference for the other current/future Acuras (remember the nicer sedan is coming).
They know how to build a quick FWD car for the right price, so good news that the Civic Type R is being embraced.
I am sure there will be some reaction to the sales issues and they will do something, but I wouldn't expect anything until at lease MY 2019.
The Hybrid tech serves as a reference for the other current/future Acuras (remember the nicer sedan is coming).
They know how to build a quick FWD car for the right price, so good news that the Civic Type R is being embraced.
Given the newer leadership at Acura and the appearance of a genuinely good TLX A-Spec model, I fully expect that Acura will not only soldier on with the NSX, it will also make the changes necessary to improve it. I sense the return of influence by the car enthusiasts working at at Hondacura. That's good for all Hondaphiles.
I picked up said A-Spec yesterday. It's a genuinely great-handling, good-looking car that is much better than the rather vanilla 2015-2017 TLX.
But that's not the reason for this post. I asked my salesman, who's been asking about my interest in the new NSX, how many they've sold. He told me the dealership has sold FIVE. That makes them a high-volume NSX dealer....and in Cleveland, no less. (The dealer staff also said they're looking for 1G NSXs to sell).
But that's not the reason for this post. I asked my salesman, who's been asking about my interest in the new NSX, how many they've sold. He told me the dealership has sold FIVE. That makes them a high-volume NSX dealer....and in Cleveland, no less. (The dealer staff also said they're looking for 1G NSXs to sell).
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Bob,
Congratulations on your new car.
Did your Sales person have any insight on how/why they have been able to sell so many? The dealership I purchased from in WI has been stuck with their second car for probably 5 months (and it isn't a loaded up car).
Congratulations on your new car.
Did your Sales person have any insight on how/why they have been able to sell so many? The dealership I purchased from in WI has been stuck with their second car for probably 5 months (and it isn't a loaded up car).
I'm not sure how they did it. From the number of calls I've received about taking an allocation, I guess it's old fashioned shoe leather and phone use? I've personally met two people who purchased new NSXs from that dealership, so it's certainly possible they have sold more than that. For a long while, they had a red one on the sales floor, with a markup to $240k (I posted about it months ago in this thread). It eventually sold to a local collector. I doubt it sold for the marked up price. I guess there are more people interested in the new NSX in Cleveland than I thought? They also sold a lot of RLX Sport Hybrids when they were first released, when other dealers had cars languishing on the lot.
I still think I'll be a NSX 2.0 owner (not lessee) at some point in the future. I'm just waiting for the right time to do it, particularly given the experience I had with my first-year RLX Sport Hybrid.
I still think I'll be a NSX 2.0 owner (not lessee) at some point in the future. I'm just waiting for the right time to do it, particularly given the experience I had with my first-year RLX Sport Hybrid.
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The A-Spec is a great looking package. I'm glad they added that in to the lineup. The fact that you get all that much nicer looking trim, in addition to some of the features from the Advance trim (cooled seats, ambient lighting, phone charger), the A-Spec is a no brainer for an additional $2k over the Tech trim.
Over on the Honda side of things, they restyled the Accord in 2016. And that genuinely was a nicer looking car (especially in Sport trim with the nice 19" wheels) than the TLX. And it really slowed the sales down for the TLX. The incentives that Honda has had to for the 2017 TLX to get them off lots before 2018s arrived...ugh. So I'm glad they finally let Acura start actually looking like a car that costs $10k more even though it pretty much is the same thing
This car also seems to be selling well in Canada. My car just came off the truck yesterday. I'll be picking it up at the end of this week. It has a VIN of 116. And there was another NSX still on the truck heading toward Vancouver Island. So over 100 sold in Canada is pretty impressive.
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Good to hear the cars are roling off the lots now!
Congrats to all the new owners!
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Congrats! the A-spec is a great improvement over the regular TLX. Wireless charging is one of my favorite features. The reshaped steering wheel is nice too.
We've sold 3 out of 4 nsx thus far. thats with 8 stores being within 30 minutes of each other.
Here is a nsx we just got last week
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it's interesting to read Dodge's new approach to selling their Demon. evidently the exact opposite to Honda's NSX fiasco:
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"Dealers who plan to mark the Demon up will end up at the back of the line. Demons that are sold at or below the MSRP of $84,995 will receive priority scheduling, so those owners will get the lowest production serial numbers possible. Demons sold with a markup will be pushed to the back, receiving higher serial numbers that could turn out to be slightly less valuable in the long run." [/FONT]
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/heres-how-dodge-plans-to-allocate-the-demon-to-dealers/
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"Dealers who plan to mark the Demon up will end up at the back of the line. Demons that are sold at or below the MSRP of $84,995 will receive priority scheduling, so those owners will get the lowest production serial numbers possible. Demons sold with a markup will be pushed to the back, receiving higher serial numbers that could turn out to be slightly less valuable in the long run." [/FONT]
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/heres-how-dodge-plans-to-allocate-the-demon-to-dealers/
I just checked Cars.com: 186 NSXs (only 90 for under $200K-- a lot of the stagnate inventory has markups or very high option content) for sale versus 266 Audi R8's (for reference).
I don't recall the prior numbers from a few months ago, but it doesn't seem that inventory is "stacking up" in North America as feared--- in part presumably due to slowed production and shift to export markets.
It seems like the NSX is doing "OK"-- but certainly needs more marketing focus to maintain or increase volumes.
I don't recall the prior numbers from a few months ago, but it doesn't seem that inventory is "stacking up" in North America as feared--- in part presumably due to slowed production and shift to export markets.
It seems like the NSX is doing "OK"-- but certainly needs more marketing focus to maintain or increase volumes.
At Suburban Acura, Farmington Hills, MI (just NW of Detroit), today, ready for retail delivery to customer Friday 6-23-2017 was PMC # 01198, a silver NSX with CCB and VIN ending 0759.
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