Napletonned, that's a new adjective. I wonder if the woman that's accusing the son of the owner of sexual assault can use it!!!
Where are all the Production deliveries ??
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FWIW.....Here's Honda's overall Jan 2019 results:
Is this thread in question? or are we talking about some other forum?
http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showt...dard-Dealers-Is-One-Reason-for-Slow-NSX-Sales
http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showt...dard-Dealers-Is-One-Reason-for-Slow-NSX-Sales
I thought that was you..........
The issue with DocL's car isn't just that he was Napletonned but that nobody can fix the problems the Napletonians caused.
A couple years ago, another forum member and I expressed concerns that the NC1 was complex enough that problems could arise which would be hard to diagnose. (Both of us had experience working in the computer industry.) Someone called us Luddites at the time. But does it not suck that no dealer can fix his car, not even with help from corporate?
A couple years ago, another forum member and I expressed concerns that the NC1 was complex enough that problems could arise which would be hard to diagnose. (Both of us had experience working in the computer industry.) Someone called us Luddites at the time. But does it not suck that no dealer can fix his car, not even with help from corporate?
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Thankfully not me.
It appears that some legal eagle type may have another reason for collecting a bunch of info, other than sharing it with a bunch of forum junkies.
Where are the production deliveries???? In Dr Lane's garage collecting dust and emptying his wallet... Sorry folks, but I find this whole thread to be completely useless if not worrisome to new buyers and very comical. But I am glad it is here.... Also, not everyone from Florida is a schmuck.... Lots of nice and caring people here. THIS IS A HONDA MOTOR CORPORATION PROBLEM we are commenting on, not THE STATE OF FLORIDA....
Are you referring to Jim or someone else on the Gen2 FB page?
I have no freaking idea why the person is collecting data. They seems to think it's helping us Gen2 owners get better customer satisfaction. In fact, the efforts are not worth the keyboard that they're typed on. There are a bunch or whiners who think that reporting the problems our cars are having are hurting sales. What a effing joke! The poor sales started the day the car was announced.
Must be happening in the private gen2 forum since I haven’t seen anything like that and I can’t access the private forum. If that is happening and I was corporate I would be concerned about someone ramping up for a potential class action similar to the gen1 with the tire issues.
Sadly.. why does it take a legal threat to get their attention.
Secondly.. the dealership seem to have caused DocL's problems (sorry I haven't been keeping up on this). I have not studied the details of the Lemon Law but if the dealership can be proven to introduced a problem, is that the manufacturer's responsibility to remedy? Whatever it is..I hope DocL's problems are resolved. Sounds like a nightmare.
Secondly.. the dealership seem to have caused DocL's problems (sorry I haven't been keeping up on this). I have not studied the details of the Lemon Law but if the dealership can be proven to introduced a problem, is that the manufacturer's responsibility to remedy? Whatever it is..I hope DocL's problems are resolved. Sounds like a nightmare.
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Probably something to do with this thread I imagine?
http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php/207415-Survey-of-Gen-2-NSX-Issues
It's more on the FB owners page than here. The forum here is pretty much a ghost town.
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As DocL pointed out, the private forum is a ghost town.
I believe your class action point is on point regarding Honda's frown face about what is going on related to social media.
I don't do Farcebook so I can't speak to any connection there.
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More blech for US February 2019 sales
NSX 22
Lexus LC 89
Nissan GTR 25
Audi R8 55
MB AMG GT 134
Ford GT Not yet reported
NSX 22
Lexus LC 89
Nissan GTR 25
Audi R8 55
MB AMG GT 134
Ford GT Not yet reported
What or where is the private forum? FB or somewhere here?
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One the page linked to below there is an owner's area
http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/80-Second-Generation-NSX
You have to ask the site owner for access
I am not referring to FB
Thanks. Didn’t know about this. And I don’t do FB.
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You got it
Nice to see other non FB folks
Thanks again for your drive posts on Ferrarichat.
I had mine out today and had a blast. Avoiding pot holes can be fun (in small amounts).
Yesterday was a nice day, had to get out... then 2” of snow overnight. Potholes are starting to get crazy here.
I’d do more pics here but posting them is a pain. Haven’t figured it out yet and I have other stuff to do.
Sent some PMs so see if I can get into the owners realm.
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I'll say it....Jim was collecting information on who was having problems with their car. I never even thought that he may have had legal intentions such as a class action law suit. As far as I know, the data collected is sitting on his hard drive doing nothing for those who drank the NC1 Kool Aide. This car was the biggest mistake I ever made. It's actually not Napleton's fault my car is a POS. It's Acura's fault because certain problems can't be diagnosed or fixed on the dealer level. There's a reason why the car has to go back to the factory for most crash repairs. Maybe they are hiding something about the build quality of the car? Who knows for sure. It's also odd that you won't be able to purchase an extended warranty through Acura for the car. I just found out about this the other day. Why is it important? Well a local dealer here in Florida was paid $33k to replace the oil pumps. I know I couldn't foot that bill if it happens 10 years down the road. And, I always save the best for last.
I was also told that I was single handedly causing the resale value of the car to drop by a few FB members. Now remember this was on a closed group of maybe 225 people at most. Really? I think Acura did that on their own when they gave a $30k cash incentive to move the car in the 4thQ of 2017. Most of the cars were leased and will be flooding the market in the 4thQ 2020. But having strong sales total of 170 units for 2018 isn't an indicator of anything, come on.
An FYI on my Lemon Law case. If it goes to court, everything I've experienced will be made public. If I settle beforehand, then I will keep my mouth shut and drive off into the sunset with my next car.
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I know for sure actually. I’ve seen many Honda plants and PMC is one of them. For all intents and purposes, this is a hand built vehicle. Very minimal robot use at PMC. Because of that, you can introduce a lot of inconsistencies that robots tend to eliminate. That said, the build quality and fit and finish of the new NSX is equal to the all Japan made RLX. And almost as good as the old NA1/NA2 all Japan made NSX was.
And unless there’s something you haven’t told everyone already, I believe it absolutely is Napleton’s fault in this matter. The car can certainly be fixed at the dealer level. As long as whoever is working on it knows what they are doing. While AHM wants the car back in Ohio for any major collision repair, there’s nothing to stop anyone from just taking it to a local body shop. Again, as long as whoever is at that body shop knows what they’re doing. The way they scare you with all the training would have you believe that this car is the space shuttle or something, but really in the end it’s just a car. The space frame with bolt on body with mixed materials construction is unique for a Honda, but it’s nothing new for the car business. Corvettes have been made that way for decades. GM doesn’t want those coming back to Kentucky everytime someone bends a frame. If the NSX was a carbon monocoque, then OK factory only. The only catch right now is that there are so few NSXs out there, most body shops have never even seen one let alone actually tried to do a collision repair. But I’m telling you. I’ve seen the car inside and out. As long as someone knows what they’re doing, everything about it can be repaired in the field.
Of course there is. I'd be a fool to disclose anything else. If they settle with me before my court date I'd gladly never mention anything negative about the NSX for the rest of my life. I'll sign any type of NDA going forward. The fact that I have a car that is known to have a drivability issue sitting in my garage is a disgrace. They should have kept it a dealership and given me a loaner RLX or MDX until my court date. I've only put 18 miles on it in two months. 12 of those miles was driving home from when they road tested for 40+ miles, and five miles because I had no other car at home and had to go to home depot. The car is "unsafe at any speed."
Well that's contradictory to what I've personally been told by someone who's car was wrecked. I also know of a very high end exotic repair shop who said they may be one of the few body shops authorized to repair the car outside of the factory, but that hasn't happened yet. I was a loyal Acura car buyer for 20 years. I had a NA1 for 15 years and six other Acura cars over the past 18 years. I was a brand ambassador whenever I took the car to a C&C on my own. However this car has been a disaster for me since the second month I have had it. That's the truth.
I really do respect your opinion and loyalty to the brand. However they entered a segment of consumer that they didn't do their homework on. It's a shame because the car does have some great attributes, and it blows away the other cars in the looks department.
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I know of cars that have had collision repair outside of the factory already. The protocol AHM issued is any frame damage past the crumple zones, they want it back at PMC. Otherwise it can be done locally. There was an “approval” process that AHM did for local body shops to make sure they had the equipment to do it...very much like the process they did for the NA1. Of course many body shops ran some quick numbers and said we don’t want to spend the money on some equipment just on the slim chance that one of these super low volume cars comes through the doors. If there was an approval process to repair Accords? Then they all would go through it.
But really, once the car is off warranty so there’s no chance of running into a hassle with that, what’s to stop an owner from taking it to any body shop they want and ignoring the protocol? If the body shop is capable and willing, why not. Sure, putting it on a truck and sending it back to Ohio will absolutely be the very best repair. But it will cost a whole lot more (which insurance may not cover) and take a lot longer (last I heard PMC had a 2 month backlog for collision repair).
^ Thanks for your insight. I respect the information that you are able to convey to us.
Been a LONG time since I’ve posted. Followed the Gen 2 forum for years. Thanks to everyone for the continuing education.
I have previously owned 3 NSXs. Recently attended an Acura driving event and decided to buy a 2019. Visited Napleton’s in Palm Beach and was I reminded of the many complaints I’ve read. My experience with them was similar when I took my ‘97 in for a belt & waterpump. Promised myself I would never return.
I can take delivery from another dealer but both of them are more than 50 miles away. That’s simply too far for service or warranty. For this reason, I’m not buying the new NSX. Or a used one.
I have previously owned 3 NSXs. Recently attended an Acura driving event and decided to buy a 2019. Visited Napleton’s in Palm Beach and was I reminded of the many complaints I’ve read. My experience with them was similar when I took my ‘97 in for a belt & waterpump. Promised myself I would never return.
I can take delivery from another dealer but both of them are more than 50 miles away. That’s simply too far for service or warranty. For this reason, I’m not buying the new NSX. Or a used one.
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