I can't find any articles about the LaFerrari that prompted the lawsuit. I wonder what happened to that guy and if the Ferrari collector market shuns his car? It's mind blowing that people would value a 5 mile LaFerrari significantly higher than a 300 mile LaFerrari. Same with these guys that buy a Ford GT with delivery miles and park it. What's the point?
That's really odd. I can't think of any situation where a dealer or the factory would be justified in rolling back 300 miles to zero. Cars have delivery miles on them, that's normal. I have a friend with a Ferrari SD tool and another with a Lamborghini Lara tool. I've played myself with the Lara hooked up to my car. These tools don't have any mileage rollback feature. The DEIS thing must be something new and dealer only.
I can't find any articles about the LaFerrari that prompted the lawsuit. I wonder what happened to that guy and if the Ferrari collector market shuns his car? It's mind blowing that people would value a 5 mile LaFerrari significantly higher than a 300 mile LaFerrari. Same with these guys that buy a Ford GT with delivery miles and park it. What's the point?
Comparing the NSX to the 458 is apples to oranges....
Yeah I know but that story is a year old. What happened to the car? Did he sell it? What happened to the owner? That’s a federal crime was he charged with anything? You’d think the former head of Sara Lee getting caught doing something like that there would be a bigger story to be told. I can’t find anything other than the salesperson’s lawsuit story.
And how is -300 miles on a car worth $1 million???
The 458 looks like a great car, but 2012 models are still $40-70k more than I paid for my NSX, which to me is a significant amount of money...... Not just a few thousand $$. I'll assume that newer cars are more expensive than the 12'. These cars range in price from $170K to well over $200k depending on mileage, from 6k to 36K. It is somewhat refreshing to see that it's a Ferrari that guys are actually driving rather than sitting on blocks as a commodity....... A guy has to determine if the additional cost of the Ferrari is worth it to him. I could not have stretched finances any further, so for me, it was not ever a choice to look at one. To someone else, it may well be worth it, especially in a case where money is not an obstacle. I'm working hard to get to that point, but not there yet.....
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for...derivedpriceDESC&numRecords=25&firstRecord=25
2009 and 2010 458's, nine cars from $150,000 to $170,000. there are viable options within the new NSX price range:
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for...=derivedpriceDESC&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0
that would be you and 2 others last month... :biggrin:
that would be you and 2 others last month... :biggrin:
that's more hassle than i'm concerned with. i'd rather just tell them to buggar off and stop being a baby...
Doc, you just gotta clean a few dirty mouths and then you can be elevated to Ferrari frosted tip hair douchness.:biggrin:A used Ferrari with no warranty vs. a new NSX with a warranty. It's a no brainer for me. NSX all day long.
i do believe this thread unofficially changed from "Production Deliveries" to "NSX Monthly Sales" a while back though mate... :biggrin:
or just enjoy a very nice Supercar purchased at probably a very nice price.
one was "delivered" to my showroom. does that count? :biggrin:Anyway, where are the deliveries in this thread? Moar please... (no jokes about only three deliveries last month, please.... ba-dum-tss!)
This has been an interesting conversation to follow. As a car guy, I really like what Acura tried to do with the new NSX. It definitely has exotic looks and performance to match. When dealers were first taking orders and selling them in their showrooms, I considered buying one new, but at an MSRP of about $190k and a $20k dealer mark up on top of that, I thought that for that money, I'd consider something else for the time being. I ended up buying a 2012 Audi R8 V10 6-speed to fill that supercar void while I waited for the NSX buzz to die down. Fast forward 2 years, I started looking at used NSXs with under 5k miles in the $130k-$140k range. I even placed an offer of $125k and then $130k on an NSX with 4k miles that had an original $185k MSRP. Ultimately, that deal fell through and sent me looking for another NSX. In talking to dealers with both used and new inventory, I couldn't find one with the same features and specs as the first one for under $145k despite in some circumstances, the dealer having the car in stock for 8+ months. It seems like dealers probably paid too much for these are not budging much on the prices. As I continued my search, it was my 12-year-old son that basically said: "if you're going to be paying that much for an Acura NSX, why not a Ferrari?" Again, I know that this is an apples and oranges comparison, but in researching where Ferrari 458 prices are and the ownership costs involved are, it was clear that the 458 was as reliable as their German and Japanese counterparts. Additionally, you can fully anticipate where Ferrari 458 prices will be in the next 4-5 years. The Ferrari 488 has been a bit of a bust of Ferrari, and many 458 owners are holding on to their cars instead of "upgrading" to the 488 due to the busy design of the 488 and the change in exhaust tone due to being turbo-charged. Ultimately, for less than $30k more above the cost of the NSXs I was looking at, I was able to purchase a two-owner, enthusiast owned 2012 Ferrari 458, with under 15k miles being sold by a Ferrari dealership. Of course, the Ferrari is nowhere near the NSX in terms of technology, but ultimately, it checks one of the boxes on my bucket list, sounds amazing, is sexy as hell and everyone, including non-car people, instantly recognize and appreciate the beauty of the car. Again, not knocking the NSX or NSX owners by any means. I just wanted to provide a first-hand experience and perspective of someone who was at the point of buying an NSX that ultimately stretched a little more and purchased a Ferrari. The car still has one more free service left on the 7-year maintenance plan and has a 1 year Ferrari New Power Warranty. I know that the cost of ownership will be so much more than if I had bought the NSX, but it's a Ferrari.
By the way, I don't have bleached or highlighted hair, nor am I a pretentious douchebag, just a car guy that can appreciate all cars.
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internet humor is a two way street...but you have to have some simpatico for the guys who stepped up and bought or leased the new nsx......they are all happy with the car...but to keep reading over and over in clever jabs and cajoling that sales suck can get tiresome....I personally like the involvement of real owners and anything we tire kickers can do to not drive them away would be good....capisce...
you need to run it up and down a curvy mountain road, or take a few laps...
easily... :biggrin:
ok fastaussie I impulsed bought a 2011 giallo 458 with < 13k miles yesterday and its for my wife (or so I told her). My 2017 NSX is still better in every way to me except for looks and will continue to be my daily choice. The 458 stupid turn signals are horrendous and I cant even see if they are on or off unless I look under the steering wheel. I was having a hard time trying to use the radio but that will be solved with more seat time, hvac controls not great, wife loves it so thats a plus. Crappy cupholder and many other issues. Almost bought a 12c spyder last week for much less $ but fellow prime member buddy stephen tu bought it instead of me so ok whatever. Stephen will let you know the nsx is also better than either 12c spyder or 458 as he's driven the car alot but it isnt flashy enough for him. Also the car doesnt feel as stable to me when cornering even at medium speeds but maybe more seat time will change thatView attachment 155107