I have had a z10 and a q10 and I will say the z10 keyboard with the swipe up gestures is no gimmick, it really becomes second nature, but in the end a real keyboard is still the one for me. Also, I keep swiping up on the screen of other people's phones to turn them on and wonder why its not working until I realize they still use buttons lol.
What is BLACKBERRY planning?
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http://www.wired.com/business/2013/09/blackberry-sold/
It's over. Time to leverage their only valuable asset of server-side enterprise security and call it a day.
It's over. Time to leverage their only valuable asset of server-side enterprise security and call it a day.
Amazing how fast they went from the top to the bottom.
All I can say is Microsoft better wake up before it happens to them.
I'm sure you were just giddy with the news. Too bad everyone can't just release the same phone in plastic and have idiots line up to buy it
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Looks like they are trying new things to stop the fall.
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But if they were lining up to buy BB, they wouldn't be idiots?
So what happened with BB? You said the Apps were coming. Spec wise and design wise, it looks good. Looks much better than Android. Too bad. I wouldn't trade in my iPhone for one, but i would definitely pick one over Android.
I am not sure what happened. It's sad for sure. Bb10 is an excellent phone but too little too late I guess. Apple nearly died once and look where they are now. I don't think it is over for them yet. I think they will focus on enterprise for a few years and come back eventually. But I could be wrong and they could be gone in a year.
I think the marketing was a total flop. And I do know that promises of marketing support from carriers were broken. I think that sunk them.
Lots of people out of work. Oh well, at least jimbo is happy.
Happy? Hardly. It is sad when any business fails. Sad for the people who put so much effort, time and money into the enterprise.
Blackberry is an example of arrogance and hubris of upper management.
I think it's pretty evident what happened. Apple and Android zoomed right past BB as far as UX and features. Phones were less about business and more about everyday life where work and personal mix. BB held the position that these other phones did not work for businesses that wanted to maintain security and keep work/personal separate but the momentum was far to great and businesses had to give in to what their employees wanted. BB watched this all happen and sat on their asses doing nothing. By the time they made the move, it was FAR too late and there was no possible way to regain the market share they had. Everybody was happy with their Android and iOS and nobody cared what BB was doing any longer.
You have to watch what the market is doing and go where the market demand is, you can't fight that much momentum. As pointed out, MSFT will be next if they don't get their act together. The Windows Surface 2 released yesterday demonstrates they STILL are not getting it.
You have to watch what the market is doing and go where the market demand is, you can't fight that much momentum. As pointed out, MSFT will be next if they don't get their act together. The Windows Surface 2 released yesterday demonstrates they STILL are not getting it.
I think you need to put Apple in that same category as Android is EVERYWHERE now. Looking at their stock price, it seems the market agrees. It is the same as APPLE vs. WINDOWS. Windows killed them. Android will do the same. It is only a matter of time.
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I don't know that I agree at least today.... I have an Android phone, my wife has an Apple. She likes the simplicity of iOS, it's intuitive to her for the most part. To me, a techie, iOS is very limiting, especially the way the OS is locked down. So for a geek like me, I like Android better (I've owned a 3gs and 4s and switched to a Galaxy s3). I like huge screens. I want to own a phablet! For somebody like my wife, iOS is better. I've seen the commercial for "simple mode" on Samsung, but that's just a 3rd party developed UI. If Google can simplify the UI and UX to go after a demographic like my wife, Apple may be in trouble, but right now they have a better product for people like her.
FWIW, I also find iOS more reliable. My Android UI tends to become non responsive and crash once or twice a day (but in all fairness I'm using a third party product)
FWIW, I also find iOS more reliable. My Android UI tends to become non responsive and crash once or twice a day (but in all fairness I'm using a third party product)
Its Apple vs Microsoft, or Mac vs Windows.
And Microsoft did not kill Apple, they are still here. Now if you were to mention WebOS, then yes, that is something that has been killed off.
I have no clue how much truth there was in his statement but someone on cnbc this morning stated that the entire us military uses blackberry.
IMO blackberry dropped the ball many years ago and it's too late to recover it. I'm surprised that anyone feels and is willing to pay in the billions for this company.
IMO blackberry dropped the ball many years ago and it's too late to recover it. I'm surprised that anyone feels and is willing to pay in the billions for this company.
Negative, I never had a Blackberry, or any other OS issued to me while I was in the military. Well, just the Iridium satellite phone our aircrew would get issued when deployed. I had my own iPhone I used while in the military. Now government issued phones, in the past it was Blackberry, now Android and iOS are authorized.
Well that pretty much confirms my suspicions and solidifies the look on the tv anchors face this morning.
They are still all over corporate America. I think Larry page still uses one. I think they still have a future in the corporate only world and they still have great software that can run on iOS and android for work security.
Even if so I still can't see a value anywhere near the 4.7 billion buyout offer. Imo apple, at this point in time, has this sector of the market wrapped up. I carry an iPhone at this point and I never thought I would. Bought iPad too. Phone before the iPhone was v9 Razr. No one talks anymore, everyone texts. Hard to text on flip phone. I think apple is very smart only allowing features like FaceTime to work with other apple devices. It basically forces friends and family to switch to apple devices.
I read an interesting article about how a group of teen girls stopped talking to their friend because she didn't have an iPhone, so she never got the group iMessages.
Now with facetime audio, there's even more incentive to keep your family with Apple. Free international calls? Sounds pretty sweet. My brother and I tested FaceTime audio out tonight and it was incredibly clear.
On a related to the topic note, a few years ago a bunch of my female friends were using Blackberries and said they couldn't give it up due to blackberry messenger. I always thought they should've released bbm as an iPhone app back in the day, but they never did. Now there is a plethora of messaging services and BB tried to unsuccessfully launch BBM last week. Too little, too late. BB, like Rome, thought they would never fall.
even giants like AOL(AIM), Yahoo, etc.. don't get used as much anymore, that I know of. I haven't used my IM accounts in years now, and I haven't seen anyone use it either. It's all texting and social media, like FB, IG, Twitter.
The launch was delayed because a leaked android version caused network problems, apparently enough that they had to ban that leak. Hopefully bbm will be out soon. There has already been a lot of demand. I think it will be successful. I love bbm. iMessage, not so much.
Apple actually has a very small share.
Android: 80%
Apple: 13%
Windows Phones: 3.7%
Blackberry: 2.9%
Things change fast...
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24257413
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Not intentionally but that's basically what happened with my circle of friends and family. My wife bought an iPhone and a couple of her friends had them too. She was face timing with one of her friends and I realized how handy it would be to also have an iDevice. It would allow my eyes to be somewhere my body was not. I learned on an apple 2e in school and never liked the way apple worked, especially after I used Microsoft. I didn't think I'd ever use apple again after I finished school. I held out for a while then bought an iPad. Once I had the iPad and used it for business, especially meetings where I would be present with FaceTime. I knew I wouldn't want to be without it. Then ownership of iDevices spread throughout everyone I know. My wife's brother was the final holdout. He bought a tablet that worked on Microsoft but was unable to join in on anything that was going on. He finally gave up and bought an iPad. Its a monopoly IMO. The only way Microsoft can recover at this point is to come up with something that trumps apple, doesn't work on apple devices and is so good half the population is willing to give up their iDevices. I don't see that happening and I don't think gates cares either.
As a side note I see the same thing happening with Facebook that apple has done. Another service you have to subscribe to in order to access parts of the web or services you want to use.
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That's surprising to me. Everyone I know has an iDevice. I'm trying really hard to think of someone I know that doesn't and I can't come up with one person. Maybe its a regional thing?
Due to the plethora of very cheap Android phones, there is going to be a huge discrepancy in market share. I personally think though, it's more about browser share because it shows how people are using the phones. What's the point of having a smart phone if you don't use it for internet purposes?
What's interesting to me is how Android has a larger market share yet they have an almost inversely proportional browser share. One of the latest reports says iOS has a 65% browser share. http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...ws-mobile-browsing-share-in-us-to-dominant-65
Not bad.
Compounding on that data, iOS dominates the mobile device holiday shopping traffic at 77% of the share. To me that says ios users are actually using their smartphones.
http://www.asymco.com/2012/11/26/the-android-engagement-paradox/
If you're at all interested in tech stuff, the above article is a good read, written by one of the most well respected tech analysts out there.
I'm sure there's all sorts of demographics to it.
You hangout with mostly rich business owners right?
Business owners who don't have time to messing with things probably tend towards iPhones which 'just work'.
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The problem with that metric is I don't know anyone who uses the stock Android browser.
I have Chrome, Firefox, Opera, a 'Tor' browser and the stock Android brower on my phone (5 browsers, 1 phone...).
I use Chrome the most, but also use Firefox a lot.
Most people I know use either Chrome or Firefox on their Android phones.
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I'm actually pretty sure these studies are conducted OS to OS rather than browser to browser. My original title was a slight misnomer. That being said, even if it was browser vs. browser and android took the entire "other" column, it'd still be roughly 35% vs. 65%.
