>If you... We.... however you view us. Doesn't get enough people backing the project. Maybe we could, and should increase the donation amount?
Thats the plan for all/us. We look at it as a project for the "group" not just for P2F. We have time as long as we're making small progress and not dicking round, MVO is willing to help. We'll give it a month or two as many people don't visit here often. We then just divide the $2500 among the number and if all agree to donate, we will go forward. Otherwise, its a no go. Same applies to Phase 3. @ 100 people, thats ~$50 each for Phase 2 & 3 and that is very reasonable IMO. @ 50 people, thats $100 each and also very reasonable for a development as such with a top vendor.
>I understand very well why many people are not interested in investing money into creating product, they haven't tried, don't know the effect of, or not sure if they need.
>More people will put their money down on a finished product. naturally... Once it has been tested and reviewed. Confirmed to be a good upgrade etc.
Yes that is the nature of this business. Technology has improved a lot since late 1980. Most want to see it to believe it. Only the few believe it then see it. The neocortex part of the brain says ok but the limbic part of the brain needs a lot more to make the emotional connection as big as this. Thus the early adopters who willing to brave this trek shall receive the most favorable price. There are still a few unknowns but with MVO's help, it will be minimized. They are not a fancy machine shop. Steering is their only business.
People who donate have the option to buy or not buy. There is just as much unknown of how long the oem rack will last and there is no replacement avail. MVO was not able to measure the donated oem rack "supposes to be" 20:1-18:1 "VR" rack according to the Service Manual. Its basically a straight 20:1 rack.
Once the 1st batch is tested and reviewed positively. there is no guarantee a 2nd batch will be made as the qty affect the price tremendously or if it is made, be affordable. There is strength in numbers so if we can pull this off, the early adopters will benefit from their donation and the 1st offer pricing but if we fail, the financial impact will not be as severe. We try to cover both sides of the equation. Not easy to do. The magic number is 100+ people.
>I assume this rack will only be for Left Hand Drive (LHD) cars?
As I am in Australia my NSX is RHD, and I would need the VR rack to fit this configuration.
If this is not possible I will opt out.
If it is possible I will contribute further
thanks for your efforts...
Chris Jennings
<sparky>
Sparky, depending how things go, its for LHD only......for now. If we can pull this off, we will help you guys as well. MVO told us it may not be a mirror image so they will need a RHD oem rack to verify and that is $2500 aka Phase 1. If it is a mirror image, then the design time(Phase 2) will be very minimal. Not sure about Phase 3 as its a master tooling check tool.
MVO is not willing to assume its a mirror image and "somehow" it is not as they ran into this problem before. Remember, we have no drawings from Honda of this part.
So it is very possible to have a RHD VR rack made especially if we get more of you RHD guys to donate. We are one tiny family and we'll do what we can to make this happen for all but we do need people to pull the trigger instead of sitting on the fence.
Thx for your interests.