Please someone tell me where they get an N2 clutch replaced for 1300 bucks - sorry but the parts are more than that - you can't resurface the flywheel and then there's the master and slave. Get a price from any reputable guy - mine would be the "barn man" - Barney - and he'll tell you right away that an N2 clutch is more than 1300 w/o a doubt.
Anyone else here had an N2 clutch replaced for 1300 with a flywheel, master and slave? Heck my N1 clutch, flywheel, master and slave was 2400 from Barney and you can't get it for less - that would be a challenge to anyone willing to accept it - unless you are doing the work yourself and even still you can't get the parts for a flywheel and clutch assembly on an N2 for 1300. So how's that accurate?
TB/WP/hoses - 1300 min. - I'll buy that - I did - Barney did it. Best I've heard is 4 grand for the total clutch package on an N2. By the way - I had it all done at the same time and I didn't get the clutch labor thrown in with the TB/WP/hoses - I don't know who Patricio has locked up as a serf around his house working off whatever - excuse me but no way. You guys have had this done - am I wrong?
So now we're at a conservative 5300 and we haven't touched the paint. So lets use 300 to 600 - say it's 400 - now we're at 5700 and we haven't done any fluids - valve adjust- so conservatively we're at 6000 and we haven't done the radio or antenna which is missing by the way.
So at best maybe you could get out for around 6500 - not 3500 like this guy is mentioning which doesn't really address all the issues the white one has. Also who's doing Patricio's work? The guy that buys this car will be doing it where he lives and hopefully he'll have a good "cheap" mechanic to do it or will he? Big question mark!
Next Patricio is spending someone elses coin isn't he - imagine 2k to 4k not being an issue to anyone......mmmmm....very interesting - nice to be in that position - wonder how many here fit that description?
So Patricio is ready to spend full price and take on all the adds cause in the end looking all over the country for a white coupe has cost him 3 to 4k and 8 mos. of his time - what, pray tell, did all that work turn up for you? Please describe the vehicle you bought and what you paid -- is that too much to ask. Let us be the judge of what you turned up as being anywhere remotely parallel to this white one. I just love this "take my word for it" stuff about deals and flying all over the country - must be one picky dude. If I read between the lines, speaking for Patricio, which is always dangerous, I'd say his logic would be this: "go ahead and buy the first white one that comes up and no matter what you spend on a car with 47k miles it will be worth it even if you have to deal with deffered maintenance and even at full price - that would be 39k with around 6k in maintenance - about - and then you have this car and around 45k in it.
Man for that money if you like the last gen cars - the 2002-05 models you could get one for that- I've seen them and if you have a little more "mad" money - then why in the hell wouldn't you spend it on the newest one you can find with low miles in the best condition - and pardon me for adding- I wouldn't have to fly all over the country spending 3 to 4k to do it. There are things like pictures, local primers and ppi's right?
So excuse me - explain to me when looking around right now with prices at all time lows and deals to be had is this white one such a great deal? There are others on sale now that are better for the money - I've seen the ads and some are on prime. Patricio's stuff doesn't really compute to me. I hope Patricio responds and tells us what his search of 8 mos. provided him in a car with some details of miles and condition and price, etc.
Oh, has anyone looking for white considered the primers white later model coupe - it's expensive but hey - got some mad money - it's a jewel if it's still for sale.
This is interesting.
I'm not going to waste my time justifying the hundreds of variables I took into consideration to my purchase my car.... Please leave your assumptions of me to yourself... Many primers know me personally and my passion for the NSX just as well my disgust for tasteless aggressive posts online such as yours.
My first year on NSXprime I pissed quite a few people off with posts such as yours, and then I realized even though I know a hell of allot about the NSX there are people on here that know 10 times as much.
In this instance I posted regarding maintenance costs and also suggested for people to also figure in realistic costs of searching for a car. You are taking this personally and since you also misread my post regarding combined labor costs, have gone off on a 10+ paragraph spew of assumptions of my mechanics and spending other peoples money.
I quoted $3k-4K in searching you used 4k against me.
I quoted $4000-$4500 total with paint and misc. You quoted $3500 against me.
A PPI is nearly worthless as it cant tell you about the timing belt. My PPI said the clutch was fine 3 months before it went out. They also will not check for repaired frame damage, and many ACURA dealers don't even have an NSX specialist on hand anymore. Carfax is very inaccurate on a regular basis and only gives half of the story. Many amny accidents do not get reported to carfax. Relying on local owners without knowing there mechanical background is is worse than buying based on the PPI.
You also cleverly added in for a valve adjust to squeeze you over the 6k and thus closer to your original 9k.
You chose to assume my logic, speak for me, as well as question my deal and whether or not spending someone's 2-4k is fair.
All things considered it obvious your fanatically trying to discredit this car, and anyone posting contrary to your understandings.
In my opinion, for someone is looking for rare color combos, if it is near you it worth $2-4k more, because yes it is very hard to find what you want when there are only a hand full out there.
Plus if you do choose to have a car shipped to you add another $800-$1200 and a month of waiting.
And Mr Bromley your also forgetting that a clean GPW 02-05 ($55k+ there was only 22 produced) will cost at least an additional $10k, and for some people that's not an option there willing to consider, many don't like the 02+ and/or seriously prefer the flip up lights.
I happen to be someone that seriously prefers the NSX in white, if you are not as animate about white, than you do not understand nor need to understand that there are only 43 / 97-01 white manuals. Some may be modified already, Some may have been badly hit, Some may be in worse condition, many may have higher mileage, so there may be less than 10-20 left comparable to this package. So someones gotta pony up a couple extra grand.
On topic....
Flights are $400-$500 each time. Hotels are $100 plus per night. 5 trips and your at $3k. I don't buy cars sight unseen period.
Than take into account wasting weekends & spending hundreds of hours online searching.
And don't forget every hour spent trying to save money could have been spent making money, lets not even add that up.
OK I checked and you were right the na2 clutch (part) is more expensive. The labor are rates you can get at a reputable dealer. I don't use shade tree mechanics. My previous post states the labor for the clutch is saved by doing the timing belt at same time because the timing belt is already an engine out job, so the clutch only takes an additional hour or two. I have added notes in red to clear up any misunderstandings.
When timing belt and clutch is done
together (at same time) you really only pay the labor for the timing belt which is about:
$1200 - $1500 labor
(total for both)
$800 timing belt / water pump
(parts only)
$1300 clutch
(parts only)
$3300 -$3500 Total all done
So the NA2 clutch is $2250 not the $1300 ... so add $1000
The TB/WP kit is less than $800 its actually $640
http://daliracing.com/v666-5/catalog/index_browse_part.cfm?focus=803
You can also check with Ray Laks Acura Yourself. 1-888-729-5257. Many dealers give 25% off all NSX list prices. If your paying full price shop elsewhere.
So I was off by $850 after both adjustments. That makes both NA2 TB/WP & clutch job if done at same time should be around
$4200-$4500.
plus paint bumpers and replace speakers still under $5k which is close enough to your second estimate $6k, which would not have been worth arguing had you not requested my response, but still far from the 9k you started off with.
I call a truce since my time is really not worth internet arguments.
I hope that clears up my explanations and opinions based on my experiences.
