Thoughts on NASA in touch with Aliens for years?

"Perfect exaple of how Major Stoner looks at things alot differently than most of us.

I thought the same thing Vegas...32 degrees...

But yes, he is correct, water does change at 33 degrees."

My point was not at what point water freezes or thaws.

*It was the point that Major Stoner looks at things other ways than what is the norm.*

Most people when they hear(as I did) "Water changes at 33 degrees" think, No, it freezes at 32 degrees.


I am really not intrested in what temprature water freezes.

Please,

I was just trying to enjoy the thread, and now I get jumped on that I dont know the exact temprature water freezes at.

FREAKS

Don't blame us for your lack of communication. You stated exactly:

"I thought the same thing Vegas...32 degrees...

But yes, he is correct, water does change at 33 degrees."

You said, he was correct, implying I was wrong. Now if you added, it also changes at 34 or 35 degreees or said, you are both correct, then nobody would have been on you for anything. Especially if you actually read the context that the point Major Stoner was trying to make was that 33 was the "magical" number at which ice melts.

Whose fault is it if I said, "my friend says water boils at 101 degrees. I thought it was 100 degrees, but actually he is correct, it's 101 degrees." then get all offended when people jump online to correct me? :rolleyes:
 
33=sublimation :biggrin: discuss:rolleyes:
 
33=sublimation :biggrin: discuss:rolleyes:

hahah uh oh.... now you've done it Doc! There will be 13 more pages of arguments on different forms of matter and their different stages and why they sublimate, freeze and thaw... :biggrin:
 
What's the triple point for water, anyway :biggrin:?

Rhode Island is neither a road, nor an island. Discuss... I'm getting faklempt!
 
Call me crazy, I sold 2 NSX's but they say truth is stranger than fiction. To dismiss anything is nut's. The universe is too big to dismiss anything...just my .02
 
The greeks had a far better knowledge of geography than we have been taught. We have been decieved as to the full measure of classical learning, because the greeks did not commit the larger part of their knowledge to writing, and they bound knowledge with vows of secrecy. Wisdom was considered sacred, and the priest-philosophers bestowed their knowledge of select branches of the sciences on to invividuals that were initiated. To bestow knowledge upon those who had not prepared their minds by years of academic disipline and spiritual self purification, profaned the mysteries, and desectrated the sciences. The classical civilizations consealed most of their learning under legends, myths, and allegories that have long been mistakenly accepted as literal beliefs by these profane people. This is why we still have secret societies.

Christopher Columbus's real name was Prince Nicholas Ypsilantis and he was greek prince. Hercules, Odysseus, Colaeus, Pytheus, and Eratosthenes, all navigated the Atlantic ocean. The ancient Mayan language contains many words of pure greek. In Uraguay, South America, there were discovered traces of the army of Alexander the Great, swords with the inscription "PTOLEMEOS ALEXANDROY".

What are the chances that the man who "discovered" the new masonic republic would have the same names as the two masonic deities, Christ and Columbia?

Christopher Columbus = C.C. = 33

Could the "first celestial navigator" really be a secret coded message like Roswell?

33.33 degrees of the earth's circumference is 2012 nautical miles.

2012.9 to be exact.
 
Mayans and chicklets......discuss
 
As the navigator can use increments of the earth's latitude and longitude to determine location in space and time, these increments can be measured in the earth itself to reveal the appointed time of humanity's destiny.

This is why the number 33 and the compass and square are such important symbols of the illumined elite.

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33.33 degrees of the great circle of the earth represents 2012 nautical miles.

Mount Hermon in Phoenicia, the first location of extraterrestrial influence with man, lies precisely at 33.33° north 33.33° east ... 2,012 miles from the equator and 2,012 miles from the prime meridian.

To be completely accurate, the number of nautical miles in 33.33 degrees of the earth is 2012.9.

Does the chosen location of the first connection of heaven with the earth on Mt. Hermon at 33.3rd degrees set in time the final phase of a new world order in 2012? In light of the ancient history of Mt. Hermon, is it possible that the year 2012 might also represent this scenario?

Finding a relationship between 2012 AD and the present age may be the critical way to resolve this question. It makes more sense to qualify this future date with references left from the previous encounters of extraterrestrials with humanity. If the sons of God descended to Mt. Hermon with the intention of connecting 33.33 with 2012 navigationally, might they also have placed an additional marker coordinating the year 2012 with their return?

It appears they did. This is very probably the meaning of the Roswell event. It is a marker consisting of ancient, sacred numbers.

The impact area near Roswell lays 33° north latitude, at a distance 2,012 miles from the equator.

When the latitude of the impact site 33° north, is multiplied by the universal mathematical constant PI, (3.1415926572...) the result is 104°, the longitude of the impact site. The value of PI is one of the most important numbers of geometry. Without an understanding of this number, the science of building, architecture and navigation is not possible. Historians actually base one of the classifications of a true civilization on its achievement of PI.

Scientists at the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) know that a radio message from intelligent life out in space would have to use redundant universal mathematical constants. Universal constants are not dependent on calibration systems, but ratios. They function with every counting system that exists. Any signal coming from space that has these numbers stands out against the randomness in the background of space noise. Such a signal would define itself as intelligent and deliberate. Such is the case with the location of the Roswell incident. The odds against a crash location occurring "by chance" precisely at the coordinates that are the product of PI x 33 are astronomical... on the order of millions to one. The location was chosen therefore to show a deliberate and intelligent message.

In other words...the Roswell event was not an accident.

This is a profound contradiction to its initial appearance. The crash and destruction of the sophisticated flying vehicle with occupants, according to reports, seemed an unplanned disaster. It is exactly because of this appearance that researchers speculated that American radar, used in missile tracking experiments at white Sands testing grounds near Roswell, some how brought the extraterrestrial vehicle down. However, if the message at Roswell is more than a strange mathematical coincidence, this would also suggest that the crash was staged and the vehicle's occupants sacrificed. By appearing as an accident, the last thing one would look for is a message deposited in the crash location itself.

But there is more to the message than the display of "Pl". The Roswell event also incorporates numbers of the earth's dimensions and orientation in space. These numbers interact with each other in patterns similar to those known to exist in occult ritual magic. Though the value of a number may change with placement of the decimal point, the magical form of the number remains the same. Numbers that display these characteristics are commonly seen in the practice of "theurgy"** or numerology. This is especially notable in the way the message displays the number 19.47. 1947 was the year the Roswell event occurred.

19.47° or "19.5" is a universal number signifying the meeting of a tetrahedron with a sphere. 19.47° is the latitude where 3 points of the 4 sided tetrahedron touch north or south the equator if the 4th point is anchored at the pole of a rotating sphere. If the number 19.47 was discovered in an extraterrestrial radio signal, SETI scientists would have proof that the broadcasters understood advanced Platonic geometry. The Roswell message numerologically interconnects 19.47 with the date, latitude, longitude and distance from the equator of the impact event itself.

The earth is 21,600 nautical miles around. This measurement is based on the ratio of 360 x 60 first used by the Phoenicians and still in use by modern ocean and flight navigators.

The number 6,480 is exactly 1/4th of the total 25,920 years it takes earth to complete one circuit through the signs of the zodiac. 6,480 years is unique because it marks the duration between a series of global cataclysms left in earth's historic and geologic record.

At Roswell, 19.47 appears in relationship between 21,600, 6,480 and 33.33

When the earth's circumference, 21,600 is divided by 33.33 the number 6,480 appears in a variation:

21,600 / 33.33 = 648.06480648064...

648.06480648064..divided by 19.47, the number suggested by the year of the Roswell crash itself (1947)...produces a modification of 33.33:

648.064806480 / 19.47 = 33.28

...Latitude 33.28°

This latitude, 33.28° multiplied by PI (3.141592653589...) results in a longitude 104.56° ... pinpointing the exact coordinates of the disc impact site near Roswell NM.

Additionally the number 2012 can be calculated with a form of the number of the exact Roswell crash site latitude, 33.28° and the year of the Roswell event itself, 1947:

19.47 x 3.328 = 64.80

Between July 1947 and March 2012 there are 64.80 years.

It is significant that the United States recovered the debris and "alien" bodies of the Roswell crash on the 4th of July 1947. America itself was founded on the same date in 1776. This year was chosen by the occult elite behind the formation of America for a special reason.

888 is the sum of the letters in Greek of the name Jesus (each Greek letter represents a number). A second "messiah" (888) plus the first messiah (888) = 1776.

America's founding date, 1776 is a number representing a 2nd messiah or the "king" of the World Order. It symbolizes the advent of a god man on earth.

According to the illuminated elite, as the first messiah came to establish the Kingdom of Heaven, the second illuminated messiah will establish a New World under his rule. Concerning this messiah, Manly P. Hall, wrote:

"The outcome of the 'secret destiny' is a World Order ruled by a King with supernatural powers. This King was descended of a divine race; that is, he belonged to the Order of the Illumined for those who come to a state of wisdom then belong to a family of heroes-perfected human beings... "The Secret Destiny of America., p. 26.

The average number of days in a year for a century is 364.864 (this is slightly less than 365 because it includes leap years that have an extra day) This number can be found by dividing the quarter of precession 6,480 with the founding year of America 1776 by moving the decimal point two spaces to the left.

6,480 / 17.76 = 364.864648

1776 is therefore related to the latitude and year of the Roswell event:

364.864648 x 1776 = 648,000 / 33.28 (Roswell event latitude) = 19,470

The Roswell event longitude is also related to America's birth year 1776:

1776 / 17.076 = 104.0056, (the exact longitude of Roswell crash site is 104.56)

Additionally the number 2012 can be calculated with a form of the number of the exact Roswell crash site latitude, 33.28° and the year of the Roswell event itself, 1947:

19.47 x 3.328 = 64.80

Between July 1947 and March 2012 there are 64.80 years.

It is significant that the United States recovered the debris and "alien" bodies of the Roswell crash on the 4th of July 1947. America itself was founded on the same date in 1776. This year was chosen by the occult elite behind the formation of America for a special reason.

888 is the sum of the letters in Greek of the name Jesus (each Greek letter represents a number). A second "messiah" (888) plus the first messiah (888) = 1776.

America's founding date, 1776 is a number representing a 2nd messiah or the "king" of the World Order. It symbolizes the advent of a god man on earth.

According to the illuminated elite, as the first messiah came to establish the Kingdom of Heaven, the second illuminated messiah will establish a New World under his rule. Concerning this messiah, Manly P. Hall, wrote:

"The outcome of the 'secret destiny' is a World Order ruled by a King with supernatural powers. This King was descended of a divine race; that is, he belonged to the Order of the Illumined for those who come to a state of wisdom then belong to a family of heroes-perfected human beings... "The Secret Destiny of America., p. 26.

The average number of days in a year for a century is 364.864 (this is slightly less than 365 because it includes leap years that have an extra day) This number can be found by dividing the quarter of precession 6,480 with the founding year of America 1776 by moving the decimal point two spaces to the left.

6,480 / 17.76 = 364.864648

1776 is therefore related to the latitude and year of the Roswell event:

364.864648 x 1776 = 648,000 / 33.28 (Roswell event latitude) = 19,470

The Roswell event longitude is also related to America's birth year 1776:

1776 / 17.076 = 104.0056, (the exact longitude of Roswell crash site is 104.56)

Having taken the appearance of an accident, the Roswell event limited the directions an investigation would take. Working from the paradigm of an accident, researchers who might otherwise have suspected its mathematical message were diverted. This mental conditioning worked very well. The messengers seem to have been masters of the human psyche. They did not want the Roswell event's true nature known in 1947. It was designed to be understood in the future.

The identity of the messengers was also obscured. Some had concluded that genuine, "Hollywood type" extraterrestrials crashed near Roswell in 1947. This idea doesn't fit so easily in light of the numbers on the ground. A true extraterrestrial would understand universal math... but not necessarily numbers distinct in human culture and religion. The Roswell math bears uncanny similarity to ancient human systems of occult numerology.

The word "messenger" is exactly what the ancients named the heavenly beings. The modern illuminated shares this understanding. The ancient Greek word for messenger is "angelos". According to the science of Angelology, the angelic mind grasps every mathematical and scientific concept in the universe. It is not outside the Angelic repertoire to take concern with mankind or to interact with it. They also know man's religious numbers and symbolism.

Angels leave messages, (angelicon).

The Roswell event was a message ...left at 33 °

It has happened before.

According to the message at Roswell, we have only to wait a few years for it to happen again.
 
The impact area near Roswell lays 33° north latitude, at a distance 2,012 miles from the equator.

When the latitude of the impact site 33° north, is multiplied by the universal mathematical constant PI, (3.1415926572...) the result is 104°, the longitude of the impact site. The value of PI is one of the most important numbers of geometry. Without an understanding of this number, the science of building, architecture and navigation is not possible. Historians actually base one of the classifications of a true civilization on its achievement of PI.

It's not quite at 33 N, the ratio of latitude to longitude isn't quite pi, and longitude values are arbitrary anyway because basing them on Greenwich is arbitrary.


According to the message at Roswell, we have only to wait a few years for it to happen again.
So after nothing happens in 2012, will you stop posting this stuff?
 
You mean it is not just a bunch of Illuminati smoke and mirrors to keep us occupied while they ring in the NWO?

"The outcome of the 'secret destiny' is a World Order ruled by a King with supernatural powers. This King was descended of a divine race; that is, he belonged to the Order of the Illumined for those who come to a state of wisdom then belong to a family of heroes-perfected human beings..."

What do you guys think about the theory that the first family are clones of the Pharoah's family?
Were the german Nazi scientists further along in genetic manipulation than we are led to believe?
Has it progressed for the past 75 years?
Was the purpose of the egyptian burial to preserve DNA for their reserection, much as we do today with cryogenics?
President Barack Obama looks amazingly like Akhenaten the father of monotheism.
Michelle Obama looks amazingly like Akhenaten's mother, Queen Tiye.
Akhenaten had two daughters by Nefertiti They look amazingly like Malia and Sasha.
The secret service code names of Renegade, Renaissance, Radiance and Rosebud correlate well with the ancient depiction of the Royal Family.
Are the First Family clones?
"Human genetic material, largely undamaged after 2,400 years, has been extracted from an Egyptian mummy and has been grown in the laboratory.
One 2,400-yr-old mummy of a child was found to contain DNA that could be molecularly cloned in a plasmid vector.
These analyses show that substantial pieces of mummy DNA can be cloned and that the DNA fragments seem to contain little or no modifications introduced postmortem."
New York Times
April 16, 1985
Come on, what are the odds that a woman that looks exactly like the mother of Akhenaten would marry a man who looks exactly like Akhenaten and have two children that look exactly like the offspring of Akhenaten and Nefertiti?
Our new mummies decompose. The ancient Egyptian mummies did not.
This allowed for the retrieval of a viable cell for cloning and bringing back the Pharaohs.
Armageddon script: when "the dead" would walk the Earth.
There are definitely questions of Barack's origins...
"Mr. Obama is not a """natural""" born citizen."

Rule #1. The Queen doesn't touch anyone, and nobody touches the Queen. Hasn't happened before, hasn't happened since...now why would the queen want to physically touch someone?
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1888962,00.html

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How about this? For all the poeple who believe that the world is ending in 2012, sign over to me the title of your NSX that is post dated Jan 1, 2013. Since you are so convinced the world will be over anyway, what difference would it make? Time to put your money where your mouth is. If I'm wrong and the world does come to an end in 2012, then I'll write you a check for $100,000. :tongue:
 
Isn't math fun? It's amazing what you can do when you round numbers at will, move decimal points when convenient, multiply and divide arbitrarily and then somehow decide you've stumbled upon something that quite honestly adds up to nothing.

(BTW- The US became independent on July 2nd.... technically... and most of the signatures occurred in August.)

The declaration of independence was signed by 56 people... my NSX is #55, but if you add myself, that equals 56... now for the crazy part. If you multiply Pi by the # of black/black 6spd NSX's made in 2003 (18) you get... yup, 56!!! (56.548 which you can round to 56.55 which is obviously a reference to my car #55 and the declaration of independence signed by 56.)

Holy crap!

Cary on. :)
 
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Isn't math fun? It's amazing what you can do when you round numbers at will, move decimal points when convenient, multiply and divide arbitrarily and then somehow decide you've stumbled upon something that quite honestly adds up to nothing.

(BTW- The US became independent on July 2nd.... technically... and most of the signatures occurred in August.)

The declaration of independence was signed by 56 people... my NSX is #55, but if you add myself, that equals 56... now for the crazy part. If you multiply Pi by the # of black/black 6spd NSX's made in 2003 (18) you get... yup, 56!!! (56.548 which you can round to 56.55 which is obviously a reference to my car #55 and the declaration of independence signed by 56.)

Holy crap!

Cary on. :)

You did it! Not only did you prove that there is a god but aliens as well!

Oh darn, if it only wasn't for this fruit....

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Wow, what a fascinating thread.

NSX Prime, sheesh, go figure. What a great site and a great community.

Here's what I've got from this discussion so far:

So then , technically speaking, water thaws at 32 degrees.

And all this time I thought water was already thawed. :wink:

Please continue
 
Heath Ledger's unfinished role in the movie "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus"...

The leader of a traveling theatre group, through a deal with the devil, takes his audiances through a magical mirror, to expolore their imaginations.

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Elizabeth was the "virgin" Queen sheparded by a reptilian.

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Brains, virtue, courage, and heart.

You are made from earth, wind, fire, and water.

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The Golden Path is not taken by little people.

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The yellow brick road starts as a spiral representing the Golden ratio.

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This leads to a "alien" in front of a pillarmid.

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"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."
 
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Despite what appears to be an occult-type belief, Major Stoner DOES believe in the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Even though his interpretations of the last two may be quite different than that which is espoused in traditional Christian religious beliefs.

Isn't that right, Major Stoner? Correct me if I'm wrong in your belief of God. The Truth is rather important here. You know this, as does everyone else that matters.

What say you? Be fearless in your response.
 
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