The President and Vet's Healthcare

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The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes for Treatment

WASHINGTON, March 16 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The leader of the nation's largest veterans organization says he is "deeply disappointed and concerned" after a meeting with President Obama today to discuss a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries. The Obama administration recently revealed a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in such cases.


"It became apparent during our discussion today that the President intends to move forward with this unreasonable plan," said Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion. "He says he is looking to generate $540-million by this method, but refused to hear arguments about the moral and government-avowed obligations that would be compromised by it."


The Commander, clearly angered as he emerged from the session said, "This reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate ' to care for him who shall have borne the battle' given that the United States government sent members of the armed forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies. I say again that The American Legion does not and will not support any plan that seeks to bill a veteran for treatment of a service connected disability at the very agency that was created to treat the unique need of America's veterans!"


Commander Rehbein was among a group of senior officials from veterans service organizations joining the President, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel, Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki and Steven Kosiak, the overseer of defense spending at the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). The group's early afternoon conversation at The White House was precipitated by a letter of protest presented to the President earlier this month. The letter, co-signed by Commander Rehbein and the heads of ten colleague organizations, read, in part, " There is simply no logical explanation for billing a veteran's personal insurance for care that the VA has a responsibility to provide. While we understand the fiscal difficulties this country faces right now, placing the burden of those fiscal problems on the men and women who have already sacrificed a great deal for this country is unconscionable."


Commander Rehbein reiterated points made last week in testimony to both House and Senate Veterans' Affairs Committees. It was stated then that The American Legion believes that the reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate that VA treat service-connected injuries and disabilities given that the United States government sends members of the armed forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies. The proposed requirement for these companies to reimburse the VA would not only be unfair, says the Legion, but would have an adverse impact on service-connected disabled veterans and their families. The Legion argues that, depending on the severity of the medical conditions involved, maximum insurance coverage limits could be reached through treatment of the veteran's condition alone. That would leave the rest of the family without health care benefits. The Legion also points out that many health insurance companies require deductibles to be paid before any benefits are covered. Additionally, the Legion is concerned that private insurance premiums would be elevated to cover service-connected disabled veterans and their families, especially if the veterans are self-employed or employed in small businesses unable to negotiate more favorable across-the-board insurance policy pricing. The American Legion also believes that some employers, especially small businesses, would be reluctant to hire veterans with service-connected disabilities due to the negative impact their employment might have on obtaining and financing company health care benefits.


"I got the distinct impression that the only hope of this plan not being enacted," said Commander Rehbein, "is for an alternative plan to be developed that would generate the desired $540-million in revenue. The American Legion has long advocated for Medicare reimbursement to VA for the treatment of veterans. This, we believe, would more easily meet the President's financial goal. We will present that idea in an anticipated conference call with White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel in the near future.


"I only hope the administration will really listen to us then. This matter has far more serious ramifications than the President is imagining," concluded the Commander.


SOURCE The American Legion
 
The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes for Treatment

WASHINGTON, March 16 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The leader of the nation's largest veterans organization says he is "deeply disappointed and concerned" after a meeting with President Obama today to discuss a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries.
that's pathetic.
 
The writing is on the wall. He wants create national health care, and if that's the case, the wounded vets will have no choice but to see their doctors through private sector since there will no difference.
 
And like I said, If this bill passes, he will create an Enemy far worse and far better trained then people that still make bricks in the sun and piss in the streets. My guess is that if this bill passes, he wont live to see his full 4 years in office. :cool:
 
And like I said, If this bill passes, he will create an Enemy far worse and far better trained then people that still make bricks in the sun and piss in the streets. My guess is that if this bill passes, he wont live to see his full 4 years in office. :cool:

One shot,..... :wink::eek::biggrin::tongue::redface:
 
some folks might take a couple of recent posts as threats against POTUS... and i can't imagine that would have a good outcome for anyone involved in the situation.
 
Can you say CLOWARD-PIVEN STRATEGY

Strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis: Just bankrupt the country and the minds of the masses.. then you can have your way with us.:rolleyes:

Vets healthcare.. this is a sin....
 
From what I understand this will cause my healthcare to be subject to the same "standards" imposed by insurance companies.

That said, I wear an $80,000 electrical prosthetic that you only ever find on ex-military amputees b/c they're the only ones who will pay for it. Insurance companies feel that "since you already HAVE one hand, why do you even NEED another." They WILL eventually break down and buy a cheap mechanical prosthetic which I've been informed they will only replace/repair every other year.

All that said, I break my prostetic arm about once a month due to my rather active lifestyle. So looks like soon I'm gonna get to have a functioning (though inferior) arm about 1/24th of the time.

To those of you who think "oh they aren't THAT bad", my prosthetist (civilian guy) told me the reason he went into the field was his insurance company refused to buy him a new leg when his broke after just a few months. He said they bought him a set of crutches and told him it was just as good. He said the reason prosthetic shops are full of amputee employees is that it's the only way they can keep themselves on a leg or with an arm.

Remember, the goal of insurance is to spend the least amount of money possible. $5000 barely functioning arm every 24 months, or $80,000 electrical arm? Hope you all enjoy clapping for your elected official...
 
From what I understand this will cause my healthcare to be subject to the same "standards" imposed by insurance companies.

That said, I wear an $80,000 electrical prosthetic that you only ever find on ex-military amputees b/c they're the only ones who will pay for it. Insurance companies feel that "since you already HAVE one hand, why do you even NEED another." They WILL eventually break down and buy a cheap mechanical prosthetic which I've been informed they will only replace/repair every other year.

All that said, I break my prostetic arm about once a month due to my rather active lifestyle. So looks like soon I'm gonna get to have a functioning (though inferior) arm about 1/24th of the time.

To those of you who think "oh they aren't THAT bad", my prosthetist (civilian guy) told me the reason he went into the field was his insurance company refused to buy him a new leg when his broke after just a few months. He said they bought him a set of crutches and told him it was just as good. He said the reason prosthetic shops are full of amputee employees is that it's the only way they can keep themselves on a leg or with an arm.

Remember, the goal of insurance is to spend the least amount of money possible. $5000 barely functioning arm every 24 months, or $80,000 electrical arm? Hope you all enjoy clapping for your elected official...
speaking for myself, i can only begin to imagine the issues you're dealing with now; an outcome as imagined under the proposal (as leaked thus far) is just wrong.

having said that, i'll hold my judgement until i read the actual proposal and have a chance to understand its full ramifications.
 
No one is threatening the POTUS. But just like the statement above....I have 2 fake legs. I wouldnt doubt if they gave me crutches and told me that I i just need to balance :confused:

When this passes, they might as well reinstate the draft. Because nobody will volunteer for this kind of BS :mad:
 
No one is threatening the POTUS.

But just like the statement above....I have 2 fake legs. I wouldnt doubt if they gave me crutches and told me that I i just need to balance :confused:

When this passes, they might as well reinstate the draft. Because nobody will volunteer for this kind of BS :mad:
on #1, just sayin'...

(and as much as possible given the differences in our situations) i understand both of your follow-on points.
 
speaking for myself, i can only begin to imagine the issues you're dealing with now; an outcome as imagined under the proposal (as leaked thus far) is just wrong.

having said that, i'll hold my judgement until i read the actual proposal and have a chance to understand its full ramifications.

Given the expedience of the "stimulus" package.....Good luck with that, Mr. Hal.
 
Im actually listening to the Glen Beck show at the moment, he was on the topic, but then 30 minutes of commercials started, so Im waiting to see what news he has about it........
 
Breaking news, Pres OBAMA did not endorse the bill!

Just heard that as well. Guess one of his advisers mentioned that every veterans group in the United States, as well as every veteran wouldn't look too kindly on his support of this program.

Good to know our elected officials do what is in the best interest of the country and it's citizens versus what is politically correct.:rolleyes:
 
Just heard that as well. Guess one of his advisers mentioned that every veterans group in the United States, as well as every veteran wouldn't look too kindly on his support of this program.

Good to know our elected officials do what is in the best interest of the country and it's citizens versus what is politically correct.:rolleyes:
amen.

over the past day or so i've discussed this issue with my closest friends - all vets, all obama supporters - and the consensus was govt:SNAFU.
 
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