This poll is related to a ridiculous discussion in the
How much money have you spent on modding your NSX? thread.
How much money have you spent on modding your NSX? thread.
So what do you consider a mod?
- Thread starter NSXROX
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So far, it looks like the poll is proving my statements, which are what NSXROX apparently considers "ridiculous":
to clarify this...
is the use of AFTERMARKET replacement parts for the above items considered a mod ??
Note: I assume this is a blanket question, and includes aftermarket parts that are OE-spec (same size, etc), as well as those that are not (bigger this, stickier that, cooler looking/sounding/smelling this, etc).
is the use of AFTERMARKET replacement parts for the above items considered a mod ??
Note: I assume this is a blanket question, and includes aftermarket parts that are OE-spec (same size, etc), as well as those that are not (bigger this, stickier that, cooler looking/sounding/smelling this, etc).
I think of a mod as something that changes the nature of the car, whether visually or dynamically. In that regard, I would have to consider brake pads, but as they are consumables, and are cheaper than OEM, I just can't.
My first inexpensive mod? Ditched the wiper blades!
Are stickers are mods!?!?! 
<B>NSXROX</B> : you forgot an option 'this poll is biased' ... hehee... just to keep everyone happy.
<B>NSXROX</B> : you forgot an option 'this poll is biased' ... hehee... just to keep everyone happy.
This IS a ridiculous discussion. If you tell me that you "modded" your NSX by replacing your brake pads, I'm gonna laugh at your ass. And so would everyone else that has added forced induction or ground effects or even new wheels.nsxtasy said:
Things that have to replaced on a consistent basis due to wear and tear, are parts that I do not consider "modding" if an aftermarket part was used instead of the OEM equivalent.
With that said, I do not consider OEM sized tires, brake rotors, shocks, brake pads mods. A brembo brake kit, on the other hand, I would.
With that said, I do not consider OEM sized tires, brake rotors, shocks, brake pads mods. A brembo brake kit, on the other hand, I would.
Of course it is! What is ridiculous about it is that you have the arrogance to claim that only your opinion is correct, and to post a poll to "prove" that everyone else agrees with you. And of course, your poll proves exactly the opposite - that different people have different opinions about what constitute mods.NSXROX said:
All because you don't like someone saying that some people consider X to be a mod, and others don't. Your inability to accept a diversity of opinions is indeed ridiculous!
Well, there you go, being ridiculous again!NSXROX said:
And telling lies, too! Shame on you. You know as well as I do that I never said that. What I did say is that some people consider brake pads to be mods, and others don't. And check out your poll results, and you can see that that is indeed the case. Your continued ranting about this only shows your pompous intolerance.
ncdogdoc said:I think of a mod as something that changes the nature of the car, whether visually or dynamically... In that regard, I would have to consider brake pads, but as they are consumables, and are cheaper than OEM, I just can't.
I agree that anything that changes the the way the car look or drives would be considerd a "mod." Whether it is a good "mod" that improves the car, or if its a worthless mod which has no function is another story.
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Bigger brake pads??? Hmmmmm I would ike to see that in an OEM caliper
I've found that my seats wore out (consumables) after 100K miles so I replaced them with Sparcos. Is that a mod?
BTW, I also slotted my OEM rotors and use Hawk pads. Considering that they're modified I consider them mods.
BTW, I also slotted my OEM rotors and use Hawk pads. Considering that they're modified I consider them mods.
Is that a mod inflating tires with Helium?
I don't have enough guts to do it with Hydrogen!
I don't have enough guts to do it with Hydrogen!
Ist das nicht eine Hindenburg?effer said:I don't have enough guts to do it with Hydrogen!
For me all of them are... except tires maybe...
nsxtasy said:
Nein! Bist du krank!?! Ich mochte nicht auf die Mond explodieren!
IMO anything that isn't stock is mod.
May I consider myself ( or any human sitting in car ) as a living mod?
That is the question.
Concerning gheba's affirmation I think that tyres can make a HUGE difference and hence affect overall balance and dynamic's behevior of car.
Just see what happen in F1 ( Michelin dominating Ferrari/Bridgestone )
I know... but at least tires are not sold under Honda's name... and they are very consumable goods. That's why I wrote "maybe"
IMHO
A " Mod " = Modification is something you add on or replace to gain performance with a bit of enhancement to the look of the car.
-17/18" or 18/19" is def a mod
-Exhaust system - yup
-aerokit - yup
-suspension - coilovers, sways, springs -yup
-Sound system - yup
-Sparcos - YUP
-Intake -yup
-SC or TC - BIG YUP!
I guess changing out to Koni or bilstein should be a consider a mod since it gain performance. also rotor if it is slotted and cross drilled.
No sure about
-brake pads. invisible mod and gain very little performance for normal driving.
-air filter (drop in).
replacment tires for stockers - nope
But there are people out there that consider anything non-OEM to be a mod.
If it "WOW" yourself or other then it problably is a MOD.
One can say NSX is a Mod all in itself. ha ha.
Just my opinion. No flame thrower please.
Later.
A " Mod " = Modification is something you add on or replace to gain performance with a bit of enhancement to the look of the car.
-17/18" or 18/19" is def a mod
-Exhaust system - yup
-aerokit - yup
-suspension - coilovers, sways, springs -yup
-Sound system - yup
-Sparcos - YUP
-Intake -yup
-SC or TC - BIG YUP!
I guess changing out to Koni or bilstein should be a consider a mod since it gain performance. also rotor if it is slotted and cross drilled.
No sure about
-brake pads. invisible mod and gain very little performance for normal driving.
-air filter (drop in).
replacment tires for stockers - nope
But there are people out there that consider anything non-OEM to be a mod.
If it "WOW" yourself or other then it problably is a MOD.
One can say NSX is a Mod all in itself. ha ha.
Just my opinion. No flame thrower please.
Later.
Guess I'll add my $0.02
When considering whether or not something is a "Mod", lets consider the opposite definition of "stock"
If stock means what the name implies, "no changes", then a "mod" would be ANYTHING other than the absolute stock part that was designed for the car.
IMO, a modification is simply a change to the car, any change at all no matter how small.
Add a smartenna to your car, it's a mod
Change the speakers, it's a mod
Tires, rims, seats, brake pads, superchargers, even fuel injector cleaner, are all mods IMO.
I think the difference is that people have different "weights" for their definition of a mod.
IMO
Supercharger=severe mod
Brake pads=mild mod
Wheels=moderate mod
Air filter=mild
Spark plugs=mild
Boby kit=severe
and so the list continues with each person, beacuse they have their own definition of the "weight" of a mod, trying to figure out whether or not something is a mod at all.
IMHO, they all are!!!!!
When considering whether or not something is a "Mod", lets consider the opposite definition of "stock"
If stock means what the name implies, "no changes", then a "mod" would be ANYTHING other than the absolute stock part that was designed for the car.
IMO, a modification is simply a change to the car, any change at all no matter how small.
Add a smartenna to your car, it's a mod
Change the speakers, it's a mod
Tires, rims, seats, brake pads, superchargers, even fuel injector cleaner, are all mods IMO.
I think the difference is that people have different "weights" for their definition of a mod.
IMO
Supercharger=severe mod
Brake pads=mild mod
Wheels=moderate mod
Air filter=mild
Spark plugs=mild
Boby kit=severe
and so the list continues with each person, beacuse they have their own definition of the "weight" of a mod, trying to figure out whether or not something is a mod at all.
IMHO, they all are!!!!!
gheba_nsx said:I know... but at least tires are not sold under Honda's name... and they are very consumable goods. That's why I wrote "maybe"
I know you know gheba!
We are talking in some cases about faint differences...
Even if tires aren't sold under Honda's name they were still developed exclusively for the NSX and IMO when we are talking about top sportscars and exotics, tires are considered as part of a complex system.
p.s. what kind of temperature do you actually have in your nice country because today here in Montréal we got a hot 27 degres.
Nice for the grip factor in curves though.
Made a 120 km/h in on ramp easily and without any noise from tires!!!
p.p.s. What is your first language gheba?
Deutsch, Français, Italiano or Romanche?
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I hope no one doubts that a modification means the alteration of any part of the car,quite literaly,in this context however it would mean the replacement of any oem part with a non oem part,within that particular market,end of story.As a less obvios for instance, a US car with the european/canada driving lights would be a mod.IMO.For those of you(self proclaimed younger gen)who want to interpret mod in some other slang vernacular or cultural way "the import scene" ,thats fine as long as your audiance understands and is clear about your meaning, but to the 99% of the rest of the world,my statements herein are probably correct.
effer said:
That is true but normally they are substituted with other hi-oerformance tires. Normally...
p.s. what kind of temperature do you actually have in your nice country because today here in Montréal we got a hot 27 degres.
Nice for the grip factor in curves though.
Made a 120 km/h in on ramp easily and without any noise from tires!!!
p.p.s. What is your first language gheba?
Deutsch, Français, Italiano or Romanche?
Italian even tough I speak German/English most of the time because I live in Zürich (German part) and work in an IT company (English since people come from over 50 countries here...)
Everything that is not "OEM" is a MOD!
That means if you modify anything that is "original"or "factory" it's
considered a MOD.
IMHO. Correct me If I'm wrong - PLS.
That means if you modify anything that is "original"or "factory" it's
considered a MOD.
IMHO. Correct me If I'm wrong - PLS.
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