NSX on Order, No Updates

.....and there was much rejoicing.....
 
where ya gonna go?.........................Applebees baby
 
They will do a car in Nord Gray if you ask nicely and pay a modest set up charge
Will they also do one in championship white for an extra charge?

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I kind of see that as an uphill battle.

Being Honda means they have to test this, that and the other thing prior to being ok with a specific color being included in the NSX color chart.

The Nord Gray was previously "validated" for all the painted NSX parts. They just retired it due to lack of demand.

I don't have a clue regarding if Championship White was evaluated by Honda for the current NSX (kind of doubt it since we have 130R White).

Maybe if they do a Type R (which I also doubt) they will paint them in Championship White.
 
I kind of see that as an uphill battle.

Being Honda means they have to test this, that and the other thing prior to being ok with a specific color being included in the NSX color chart.

The Nord Gray was previously "validated" for all the painted NSX parts. They just retired it due to lack of demand.

I don't have a clue regarding if Championship White was evaluated by Honda for the current NSX (kind of doubt it since we have 130R White).

Maybe if they do a Type R (which I also doubt) they will paint them in Championship White.

My wife says we're not allowed to buy one unless they will do it in Midnight Pearl...
 
I'm petitioning for the Loui Vuitton logo...
 
Well if you happen to see a Casino w. Orchid and Polished Wheels shoot some pics for me. I think we are on the floor together. I decided not to go for the tour. But enjoy!!

As expected, we were not allowed to take photos today, but I'm pretty sure I saw your car given your description. In fact, I got to put the left front wheel on it! It was a lot of fun getting hands-on with many steps in the build process. If there's a rash of NSXs with quality problems in a few months, you know who to blame! :redface:
 
As expected, we were not allowed to take photos today, but I'm pretty sure I saw your car given your description. In fact, I got to put the left front wheel on it! It was a lot of fun getting hands-on with many steps in the build process. If there's a rash of NSXs with quality problems in a few months, you know who to blame! :redface:

Is your name Francis? Do you work at Napleton's Craptascular Acura? If so, you certainly know how to fuck up an NC1. :D
 
As expected, we were not allowed to take photos today, but I'm pretty sure I saw your car given your description. In fact, I got to put the left front wheel on it! It was a lot of fun getting hands-on with many steps in the build process. If there's a rash of NSXs with quality problems in a few months, you know who to blame! :redface:

do some sketches and post up!!!!!!:biggrin:
 
"Loui" Vuitton is the "Hacked in China" sweat shop version.
Steve

well in the Loui Vuitton world a sweat shop is considered "hot yoga" with pay....:eek:
 
Is your name Francis? Do you work at Napleton's Craptascular Acura? If so, you certainly know how to fuck up an NC1. :D

You know, I thought about your car a lot while touring the PMC. It's a shame what that dealership did, because I can't imagine the amazing folks at the PMC would ever allow those kinds of problems on any NSX that rolls out of their factory. In fact, I dare say Acura should have taken your car back there, had them disassemble it all the way down, and then just build it back like new. Sure, it would have cost them a bit of labor but it's not like the PMC is running at full capacity anyway. And think of the goodwill they've had gotten from you as a customer and the way a story like that would have spread on the internet. Does anyone here remember the problem with transmission fluid on the very first Saturns and how the company handled it--a perfect case study in taking a short-term loss in the interest of staying true to your values and building long-term loyalty.
 
Agree completely! Acura had me for life when they goodwilled me a short block after I spun a bearing at Pocono raceway...
 
Actually what happened at Saturn was their ship to production floor supplier changed the formulation on the antifreeze without informing Saturn. Saturn started to see failures out in the field. They considered all their options. Flush the system and refill, replace the engine, and finally after careful consideration they decided to recall all the vehicles. I used to know the exact numbers, it was in the thousands. They offered money back to anyone that did not want a replacement car. I believe three people made that choice. The others received a comparable vehicle. They took all the cars to their factory Spring Hill and ended up crushing them all rather than give them to employees. They wanted to stop the problem. I believe the production year was 1990 and it was their introductory year. In my humble view Saturn was a game changer for labor and the sales process that General Motors was not ready for. Lots of people hated Saturn internally, especially Chevrolet. I worked with them for many years and really was sad as GM decided not to support their effort.
 
That was exactly it, drmanny3, thanks for clearing some cobwebs. I do seem to recall that, rather than crushing all the buyback cars, they actually cut them open so they could sit in dealer showrooms so people could see exactly what the inside of these "plastic cars" looked like. Door panels also went to that incredibly-effective demonstration were could smack it with a sledgehammer and it would just pop back into place.

Saturn was absolutely incredible for a few years until the antibodies within GM strangled and eventually killed it.
 
Saturn was an extraordinary organization. Most of the information will be lost to history. They represented one of the largest social experiments in the last 100 years between management and labor. The factory was run by a shared team of management and floor personnel. It was one of the few self-directed team efforts in the United States. They had the most loyal customer following of any General Motors divisions. The car had so many firsts in automotive history. But in the end it represented too big a change for Corporate America. Even Lutz, who I like wanted to see the demise of Saturn. I participated in some of the research that was done back in the day. To purchase a dealership, one had to go through extensive training and not operate in the traditional manner of the auto industry. On average it took 3 plus visits before a perspective customer asked to purchase the car. Our world would be very different had they flourished. Their plant in Spring Hill was almost a River Rouge (Ford) operation where almost all aspects of the car were built on site. They had their own foundry, some of the worlds largest plastic molding machines, as well as other unique aspects. I interacted with their operation over the early years. Universities throughout the United States were involved in this social experiment.
 
You know, I thought about your car a lot while touring the PMC. It's a shame what that dealership did, because I can't imagine the amazing folks at the PMC would ever allow those kinds of problems on any NSX that rolls out of their factory. In fact, I dare say Acura should have taken your car back there, had them disassemble it all the way down, and then just build it back like new...

Well it's all water under the bridge now. I'll never own another Acura product again.

I'm going to bow out of this thread now.

Adios.
 
Saturn was an extraordinary organization. Most of the information will be lost to history. They represented one of the largest social experiments in the last 100 years between management and labor. The factory was run by a shared team of management and floor personnel. It was one of the few self-directed team efforts in the United States. They had the most loyal customer following of any General Motors divisions. The car had so many firsts in automotive history. But in the end it represented too big a change for Corporate America. Even Lutz, who I like wanted to see the demise of Saturn. I participated in some of the research that was done back in the day. To purchase a dealership, one had to go through extensive training and not operate in the traditional manner of the auto industry. On average it took 3 plus visits before a perspective customer asked to purchase the car. Our world would be very different had they flourished. Their plant in Spring Hill was almost a River Rouge (Ford) operation where almost all aspects of the car were built on site. They had their own foundry, some of the worlds largest plastic molding machines, as well as other unique aspects. I interacted with their operation over the early years. Universities throughout the United States were involved in this social experiment.

Thanks for posting that. It sounds like Saturn was too far ahead of its time but it's interesting that some of the things that you mentioned Tesla uses now like no hard sell ( no one at the design studio ever asks you to buy a car - it's weird ), innovative manufacturing processes, and a high-level of vertical integration at the factory.. I never knew much about Saturn but had a friend who was very charged up about the whole concept and bought a car: unfortunately it ended up suffering from the quality problems that defined GM products of that era and she traded it for Toyota and has been driving them ever since.
 
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