NSX Crash in San Diego

goldNSX said:
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I don't want to be disrespectfull on this one but I have to exclude myself from your bolt sentence. I'd never join a virtual club which excuses street-racing. It's not that the 'deed is done' it's the taking of the risk to do so. If you want to race go to the track, they have built these for some reason! Actually this is a shame for the NSX community and I wished he had driven another car/model.
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+1.
 
MartinSD said:
Greetings

Blow up the picture of the wheel -- there are 5 lug bolts -- Integra's have 4.

Bummer.
Martin
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I know it's an NSX that we're talking about here, but Integra Type R's did in fact have 5 bolts.
 
When I watched the video this, I didn't want to believe I was looking at a NSX...

...in fact, I'm blocking that image out of my mind still.
 
How do we even know they were "street racing". Maybe they were just out for a spirited drive....to the average person it may have looked like racing, but they may have just been driving a little faster than usual. Loud exhausts, revving engines, etc...might have just been a mistake.

I'd rather give the benefit of the doubt to the poor driver who's in the hospital versus pointing fingers and drawing conclusions from some idiots who can't even tell what type of cars were involved.
 
The media insinuated a street race- doesn't make it so.

I hope this guy pulls through so he can tell us his version.

Unreal how the car broke up like that...

Philip
 
DrVolkl said:
How do we even know they were "street racing". ...

I'd rather give the benefit of the doubt to the poor driver who's in the hospital versus pointing fingers and drawing conclusions from some idiots who can't even tell what type of cars were involved.
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Ok, agree with you on that BUT regarding physical laws this looks much more like a 100+ mph crash than a 60 mph one regarding how far the 'parts' flight. Regarding that and the result this is a street racing crash BY DEFINITION in Switzerland.
 
Wow, that hits too close to home.:frown: I sure hope the driver makes a speedy recovery.
 
When things like this happen it brings you back to reality. You have to pause and think about your actions. I hope he walks out of the hospital and not carried out. And if he's got close friends I hope they bring him a lap top and show him this thread and know that even though he might have stepped out of good judgement that we are all hopeing he recovers fully. Get well soon.
 
goldNSX said:
Ok, agree with you on that BUT regarding physical laws this looks much more like a 100+ mph crash than a 60 mph one regarding how far the 'parts' flight. Regarding that and the result this is a street racing crash BY DEFINITION in Switzerland.
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Okay, we get it, you HATE street racers.

But that doesn't excuse jumping to negative conclusions about a fellow NSXer whose life is hanging in the balance.

Try and have some perspective and save the soap box speeches for when you have ANY REAL facts at all other than some clueless reporters telling us that an "Integra was street racing a civic and was involved in an accident."

I think we have already determined that it is NOT an Integra and that the other car was most likely NOT a civic, so what makes you so GD certain that this is an evil man who was up to no good?:confused:


In THIS country, a man is innocent UNTIL proven guilty.
 
"..Honda/Acura..."

"...front of the car and engine were in the street..."

Great reporting.:eek: :confused: :rolleyes:
 
yellow-scorpion said:
When things like this happen it brings you back to reality. You have to pause and think about your actions. I hope he walks out of the hospital and not carried out. And if he's got close friends I hope they bring him a lap top and show him this thread and know that even though he might have stepped out of good judgement that we are all hopeing he recovers fully. Get well soon.
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Agreed. I was just thinking about this poor guys friends and family who might be on the internet looking for the other car and come across this thread with some of the finger pointing going on here.... Simply disgusting IMO.

I hope they focus on the majority of us who wish him a speedy recovery (regardless of the cause) instead of those who would play judge and jury in what must be a very hard time for them.
 
I was gonna mention ITR's have 5 lugs as well. And the guys is in his 30's, tsk tsk, should have known better.
 
NSXrebel said:
I was gonna mention ITR's have 5 lugs as well. And the guys is in his 30's, tsk tsk, should have known better.
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does anyone know the driver of this NSX? Lets hope he recovers quickly and walks away from this mess SOON. :frown:
 
DrVolkl said:
How do we even know they were "street racing". Maybe they were just out for a spirited drive....to the average person it may have looked like racing, but they may have just been driving a little faster than usual. Loud exhausts, revving engines, etc...might have just been a mistake.

I'd rather give the benefit of the doubt to the poor driver who's in the hospital versus pointing fingers and drawing conclusions from some idiots who can't even tell what type of cars were involved.
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Dude, you don't think this was street racing? this was obviously the result of going 100+mph. If that's what you consider spirited driving, I don't want to be around when you do it.
 
My thoughts exactly, I hope he recovers....


"Dude, you don't think this was street racing? this was obviously the result of going 100+mph. If that's what you consider spirited driving, I don't want to be around when you do it."
 
goldNSX said:
Ok, agree with you on that BUT regarding physical laws this looks much more like a 100+ mph crash than a 60 mph one regarding how far the 'parts' flight. Regarding that and the result this is a street racing crash BY DEFINITION in Switzerland.
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Speeding and racing are two different things. It does appear to be a high-speed impact but a lone speeding NSX might look like it was racing someone when it's not. An EVO might have just happened to be there and was passed. Witnesses are quick to point the finger and "blame" something and assume something naughty.

I think the media are assuming a lot here and while it may have been racing we really don't know that. The media have already shown their inaccurate reporting here. :rolleyes:
 
NSXGMS said:
Speeding and racing are two different things. It does appear to be a high-speed impact but a lone speeding NSX might look like it was racing someone when it's not. An EVO might have just happened to be there and was passed. Witnesses are quick to point the finger and "blame" something and assume something naughty.

I think the media are assuming a lot here and while it may have been racing we really don't know that. The media have already shown their inaccurate reporting here. :rolleyes:
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Just like the Enzo in Malibu a while back, oh no, he wasn't racing. :rolleyes:
 
Does it really matter if there was another driver?

Here's a story about an innocent bystander being killed by a street racer about a mile south on the same stretch of road: http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040630/news_2m30racing.html

Apparently, the speed limit on that road is 40mph.

Do you think he was anywhere near 40mph? Do you think he was anywhere near 60? 80? 100? Look at that wreck. That's the kind of wreck we see when someone totals an Enzo at 150mph.

The guy is NOT innocent. Even if he wasn't actually racing--which, let's face it, he almost certainly was--that's still NOT "spirited" driving. That's dangerous, negligent, manslaughter-inducing driving. If he survives, he deserves a stint in the county jail, NOT sympathy.

Not everyone deserves a devil's advocate, people.
 
GreyHoundSteve said:
Okay, we get it, you HATE street racers.

But that doesn't excuse jumping to negative conclusions about a fellow NSXer whose life is hanging in the balance.

Try and have some perspective and save the soap box speeches for when you have ANY REAL facts at all other than some clueless reporters telling us that an "Integra was street racing a civic and was involved in an accident."

I think we have already determined that it is NOT an Integra and that the other car was most likely NOT a civic, so what makes you so GD certain that this is an evil man who was up to no good?:confused:


In THIS country, a man is innocent UNTIL proven guilty.
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You did not get my message. I judge street-racing as an irresponsable act of drivers who don't have enough responsability to stand up to what they're doing and risk my, your and the others live or health. Is there really a difference between excessive speeding and street-racing? Both can end in losing the control over the car and hurt many innocent people. I don't see any. A man is responsible for what he is doing, nothing more, nothing less. THAT's my main message.

Of course, as you say, a man is innocent UNTIL proven guilty, that's no difference to my country anyway. But in this case the relevant facts are obvious, ok if you like: to me. Let's wait for the investigations of specialists (not policemen, more physicist) who can tell what speed he must have had at least regarding the scenario.

I'm very glad that no uninvolved people were hurt. I wish the driver all the best for recovery and that he burns this event into his brain cells.
 
nigel said:
I'll take the engine and transmission.

Cheers
nigel
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After it's been sitting in the middle of the street? U sure? lol :wink:
 
I have to agree that a car going that fast (based on skid marks and the damage) in a 40mph zone with stop lights... that's "street racing" and NOT a spirited drive.

Spirited drives do not involve flat roads between stop lights in town, generally. You'd have a tough time convincing a group of non-biased people that on a spirited drive he suddenly slammed into a light pole and it ripped the car in half. That's insane to be going that fast.

In fact, what is the minimum speed an NSX could be going to hit something such as a light pole that could rip the car in half? I venture its "very fast" and not "spirited drive" fast.

JMO.

I hope he recovers fully and has learned from this event.
 

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