WOW! That looks great! I have no choice but to hate you too.
My early Xmas present .
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donwon said:
Don't be hating!
Tan
i just thought of something we'd all enjoy for Christmas:
more photos by Tantheman!!!
more photos by Tantheman!!!
Tantheman said:
Actually, if you took a close look at the second of my two photos above, you'd see that I have indeed moved the OEM front calipers to the rear brake set-up.
And if you believe that...you'll believe anything.
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The Stoptech calipers look like Brembo calipers. Are they from Brembo? And if so, what did Stoptech do to make them differend from the original?
It's funny how all the calipers of well-known aftermarket big brake kits kind of look the same, Brembos, StopTech, Mov-It, etc. I guess there's only so much you can do given the confines of the wheel well in the mordern automobile. But where surface appearance might lead one to think that there isn't much difference between one set of BBK and another, I'm sure that some drivers out there can instantly tell if the car he/she is driving is equipped with one particular brand of brakes or another. Even for a relative layman like myself, the difference between my Brembo-equipped NSX and my neighbour's stock NSX was instantly noticeable the moment I stepped on the brake pedal. It's all in the feel, I suppose.
I myself have a BBK from MOV-it. I know it is the same equipment Porsche uses for its GT2 (993). So it is Brembo. The only thing MOV-it does (I quess) is making Brembo kits fit for cars that are not OEM equiped with Brembo brakes.
Lazarus said:I love this...you learn something new everyday. Thanks.
Here is the link to MOV-IT:
http://www.movit.de/
and
http://www.movit.de/rahmen/honda.htm
and a picture
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Movit
Horrible name but looks cool.
I want to reiterate that steering feel changes with the BBK due to the fact that they usually weigh less than the Acura NSX brake set up. However, the larger rims may put some of that weight back into the rolling inertia.
Tan
Horrible name but looks cool.
I want to reiterate that steering feel changes with the BBK due to the fact that they usually weigh less than the Acura NSX brake set up. However, the larger rims may put some of that weight back into the rolling inertia.
Tan
Re: Movit
Note that the thicker hats on the BBK rotors act like spacers, so the increased track width will contribute to the differences in the handling of the car as well.
Ken
Tantheman said:
Note that the thicker hats on the BBK rotors act like spacers, so the increased track width will contribute to the differences in the handling of the car as well.
Ken
"Hot brakes"
hi folks,
i am from germany so my english is not too good ...
i saw the pictures of the stop tech brakes.
nice.
but over here everybody is using the MOV´ITs as i also have on my ´96 red darling ...
the reason for this is that those brakes last nearly forever because of the special ventilation system. even if i really push it at night to 180 mph... thats fun between frankfurt and mannheim...i have my brakes ( frt. ) for three years now and this summer i also got the rears ( which totally changed the car under braking, a even "safer" and even more brutal feeling .. think i need more engine power now to make the brakes worth ...
the same brakes were also on the sport auto 24h endurance car.
after the 24h race at the nürburgring the discs on that car did look like new. when i asked a mechanic he told me that they will use the same discs again for the next 24h race ... that was very impressive to me ...
i just saw the disc of the stop tech kit which seems to have quite thin disc halfs ( walls ?) ... so i wonder if they would last 24 h...
but maybe the MOV´ITs on my car are simply too much for the power and the weight of the car ...
sorry again for some mistakes or so ..
hi folks,
i am from germany so my english is not too good ...
i saw the pictures of the stop tech brakes.
nice.
but over here everybody is using the MOV´ITs as i also have on my ´96 red darling ...
the reason for this is that those brakes last nearly forever because of the special ventilation system. even if i really push it at night to 180 mph... thats fun between frankfurt and mannheim...i have my brakes ( frt. ) for three years now and this summer i also got the rears ( which totally changed the car under braking, a even "safer" and even more brutal feeling .. think i need more engine power now to make the brakes worth ...
the same brakes were also on the sport auto 24h endurance car.
after the 24h race at the nürburgring the discs on that car did look like new. when i asked a mechanic he told me that they will use the same discs again for the next 24h race ... that was very impressive to me ...
i just saw the disc of the stop tech kit which seems to have quite thin disc halfs ( walls ?) ... so i wonder if they would last 24 h...
but maybe the MOV´ITs on my car are simply too much for the power and the weight of the car ...
sorry again for some mistakes or so ..
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Mov'it looks good but who is the US distributor for them?
Re: Re: Movit
Ken,
Have you measured a difference. There should not be any width difference between a solid rotor and a two piece, or even thinner in the case of the two piece. Just curious.
2slow2speed said:
Ken,
Have you measured a difference. There should not be any width difference between a solid rotor and a two piece, or even thinner in the case of the two piece. Just curious.
Re: Re: Re: Movit
Hi Gary,
I was referring to the width of the hat on the Stoptech BBK rotor, it's 4~5mm wider than the center part of the stock rotor (no hats on 1 piece rotors). The wheels end up being pushed out closer to the fender.
From what I know the Brembo BBK rotors are similar in design, so their's hats are wider too when compared to stock, so the track of the car changes on that particular axle.
Ken
ncdogdoc said:
Hi Gary,
I was referring to the width of the hat on the Stoptech BBK rotor, it's 4~5mm wider than the center part of the stock rotor (no hats on 1 piece rotors). The wheels end up being pushed out closer to the fender.
From what I know the Brembo BBK rotors are similar in design, so their's hats are wider too when compared to stock, so the track of the car changes on that particular axle.
Ken
2slow2speed said:
Thanks Ken.
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Thanks for the info Ken. I still find that odd, but since you are replacing the caliper, I guess it does not matter what happens. My experience with the Aerorotors and Project Mu is they are the same dimensions as a one piece in the thickness/offset category.
BTW, even though it is not a two piece, the solid rotors still have a hat, it is just part of the rotor.
2slow2speed said:
Thanks for the info Ken. I still find that odd, but since you are replacing the caliper, I guess it does not matter what happens. My experience with the Aerorotors and Project Mu is they are the same dimensions as a one piece in the thickness/offset category.
BTW, even though it is not a two piece, the solid rotors still have a hat, it is just part of the rotor.
Lazarus said:
I agree with you Lazarus!!!
There are major "unseen" differences! The most missed difference is the # of pistons, and if they are variable in size from small on the leading edge to large on the trailing edge, for even pad force/wear. Brembo and Stoptech among others have this, but many other mfg. do not.
Other things that differ between kits are the S.S. line diameter and quality (i.e. are the lines sleeved with a plastic wear cover?) How easy are the pads changed? Some mfg. require the removal of the entire caliper, while others can be pulled in seconds by removing a cotter pin. There are tons of rotor differences too between mfg. Drilled, drilled/slotted, slotted, solid, floating, zinc coated, cyro treated, many diff. vane shapes etc. etc.
To each their own, but do some research!! There ARE better kits than others.
From my past experiences, I would vote for a slotted only floating vented rotor, with at least a 6 variable sized piston caliper, and somewhat easy pad removal design. The coated s.s. lines are a nice addition as well for added wear-thru protection.
Happy braking.
slotting direction
Did you have your rotors switched R-L? I thought the slots were supposed to progress outwards from the hub as the wheel rotates. It wouldn't make sense to have brake dust and gas channeled back towards the hub. Calipers have openings in the backs of them so that the dust can escape out from in between the pads and away from the disc- channeled underneath the pad through the slot, I might add.
Steven Spanbauer said:
Did you have your rotors switched R-L? I thought the slots were supposed to progress outwards from the hub as the wheel rotates. It wouldn't make sense to have brake dust and gas channeled back towards the hub. Calipers have openings in the backs of them so that the dust can escape out from in between the pads and away from the disc- channeled underneath the pad through the slot, I might add.
sorry, I meant to quote the picture, but its over the limit to reattach it.
Really? I've never seen forward curving slots on rotors before. I guess you learn something new everyday.
