More NSX Fraud on EBAY??

[nsxman]

If a seller will not accept a cashier's check or certified check, nix the deal.

 

[erobbins]

Originally posted by spookyp:
Nice of you to set the standards for everyone

I don't believe I attempted to set standards for anyone.

Originally posted by spookyp:
Are you saying that unless you can save up the $400,000 you have no right buying one? If I have $60,000 and can afford the mortgage, I should deny myself for some reason?

I said there were exceptions... real estate is one of them, especially if it is your primary residence.

EDR

 

[erobbins]

Originally posted by Vegas Boy:

"Affording" something can also mean covering the debt service while your investment works for you.

As I said:

"If you choose to finance a purchase to put your money to work for you elsewhere, that's fine"

I think this basically sums up everything else in your post.

EDR

 

[Viper Driver]

Originally posted by erobbins:
I've said it over and over again. With VERY few exceptions, if you can't afford to pay cash for something, you can't afford it. Period.

Well, I am looking for an NSX, and I am going to finance it. Does this mean that I can't afford it, or does this mean that I'd rather pay a bit of interest as a premium to have the car now instead of waiting 6 years until I can pay cash for it?

In 6 years I may be married with kids and have completely different priorities. And, I might add, I might have a wife who doesn't understand why I want to pull $$$$ out of the savings account to buy an NSX. In the meantime, the car I've always wanted is 6 years older and so am I. Hell, given the current state of the world and my job, I may be dead in six years.

I like your ideals here, but in my opinion its unrealistic for many people. You only live once, and if you get a wild hair to do something or buy something, then by all means DO IT, and apologize to no one for it.

If you choose to finance a purchase to put your money to work for you elsewhere, that's fine, but I've seen way too many people over-extend themselves financially in their pursuit to have material possessions that they think somehow make them a different or more appealing person than if they didn't have them.

I agree, but (being the Devil's advocate here) how many Americans finance their vehicle purchases instead of pay cash for them? I'd say that the number is very high in favor of financing.

Also, since we are talking about NSX's here, are you saying that you bought yours because you would be a "different or more appealing" person? I may be off base here, but I'm not looking for the car to impress anybody. I'm looking for a car that I can enjoy, and that enjoyment is purely internal to my own self. Isn't that the real reason to own this car? If you want to be a stud on wheels, I would think a gaudy car like a Viper, Hummer, or a Diablo would be more appropriate.

I'd applaud the person who lives in a small home and drives a simple car that is paid for over the person who lives in a mansion they can't afford to furnish and has a car payment they have to struggle to meet each month.

I'll agree. I respect the hell out of anybody who doesn't crave material posessions. However, if that person goes through life wanting something and denies himself the opportunity to attain it by not taking a risk here and there, then I suspect that person will lead a very unfulfilling life.

Just my $.02.

 

[matteni]

Last month I bought a car on Ebay and sold two. Great service.

Biggest thing is feedback - BIG feedback. I was buying a car sight unseen out of the country and yes - all cash before I got the title. It was a Canadian Odyssey and I was dealing with a broker in Montreal. Talk about scary. The big thing for me was I was the 15th Ody in a row that had been sold over the last 15 weeks. All had posted that they were extremely happy with their purchase. I could have gotten screwed - but this person would have distroyed his reputation and would have had to go back to ground zero when they were getting a lot less for the same car. Feedback is everything.

For the cars I sold - I offered to use Ebays Escrow 3rd party company. Basically the money is verified into an account, the car is shipped, the buyer has a week to give fault (has to be you mis-represented the car) otherwise the funds are released. Costs all of $20.

Other great services Ebay offered:
- 1,000 powertrain warranty
- $100 on site inspection service
- Shipping services
- Selling services

Really was the best selling and buying experiance I have ever had. Biggest thing was making sure you as a buyer/seller have excellent feedback over a number of years on big ticket items. Anymore your Ebay history is as important as your credit history!

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Nick Matteucci

91' Red/Black with Many Mods
99' Honda Odyssey with Many Kids

 

[Zishan]

Ok, this guys wants cash $$ money! Paper! Dead presedents! No checks or wire transfers!! Give me a break!!

This is the link to the Porchse this guy is trying to scam!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1835328454

"Buyer will pay in cash only. No checks or wire transfers, but cash. Just to be clear. Good luck. " - Idiot

 

[bykerboy]

The Porsche he is selling also has a V6!

The guy really knows his stuff

.

 

[nsxxtreme]

The scary thing is he has probably convinced some idiot to actually send him the money. I sure would like to know how he plans to get cash in his hand. I really doubt someone is dumb enough to mail him that much money. If someone did bring cash he would have to produce the car.

Anyone report him to e-bay?


[This message has been edited by nsxxtreme (edited 10 June 2002).]

 

[lemansnsx]

Originally posted by nsxxtreme:
Anyone report him to e-bay?

This did get brought up on the Ebay Safe Harbor forum - which is monitored by Ebay. Very little response but I learned a lot about *other* fraud on Ebay! A post about laptops got 980+ responses!!!!!!!!!

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Andrew Henderson
The NSX Model List Page

"We have long acknowledged that enthusiasm for things automotive is a sure
sign of emotional instability if not outright dementia" - Brock Yates

 

[lemansnsx]

Originally posted by nsxxtreme:
I sure would like to know how he plans to get cash in his hand. I really doubt someone is dumb enough to mail him that much money.

Does say in the listing that he expects the winner to contact him within *one hour* of the end of the auction and mail hime the cash!!!! Fools and their money, man...

The thing that just kills me about this stuff is that Ebay insist that they are not responsible for any part of this. They say that they are not the police and not the court system - seems to me they like the money but don't want to do any of the work.


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Andrew Henderson
The NSX Model List Page

"We have long acknowledged that enthusiasm for things automotive is a sure
sign of emotional instability if not outright dementia" - Brock Yates

 

[lemansnsx]

Originally posted by NSX FoYoAss:
This is the link to the Porchse this guy is trying to scam!

Hey, at least this time it is actually a Porsche VIN number!



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Andrew Henderson
The NSX Model List Page

"We have long acknowledged that enthusiasm for things automotive is a sure
sign of emotional instability if not outright dementia" - Brock Yates

 

[lemansnsx]

Originally posted by NSX FoYoAss:
Ok, this guys wants cash $$ money! Paper! Dead presedents! No checks or wire transfers!! Give me a break!!

This is the link to the Porchse this guy is trying to scam!

His 2002 Acura NSX listing is another one with only 2 miles on it and the VIN comes up as a 1999 Acura. Anyone e-mailed him for pictures?

Maybe 20-30 of us should bust his balls a little? Lots of stupid questions and requests for pictures?

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Andrew Henderson
The NSX Model List Page

"We have long acknowledged that enthusiasm for things automotive is a sure
sign of emotional instability if not outright dementia" - Brock Yates

 

[huckster]

ive been listening to a lot of ebay stuff on this forum, and im inclined to ask, "why would you buy a car on ebay?"

the risk exposure is high---you cant actually see the car unless you fly there. and it's usually not a dealer so you have no "dealer screwed me recourse", just the 'i bought a car from a person' caveat emptor situation.

geez, everyone's bitchin about a really risky, and in my opinion, really stupid proposition. why do you think dealers make a profit? because they give you a recourse,and hopefully they prescreen the vehicle. ie: they dont sell piece of shit vehicles.

im not rich, and im not poor, but i would NEVER PAY more than 2k for anything on ebay. why?? 2k is the most i can afford to throw away on a potentially good deal.

 

[bykerboy]

I personally have purchased 3 cars on eBay ( 911 Porsche, C5 Corvette and my NSX) and sold another 911 there.

Like anything you do you need to be careful about these high dollar transactions but you have access to a lot of vehicles and with some due diligence can get some very good deals.

My $.02.

 

[erobbins]

Originally posted by Viper Driver:
Also, since we are talking about NSX's here, are you saying that you bought yours because you would be a "different or more appealing" person? I may be off base here, but I'm not looking for the car to impress anybody.

No, I didn't. I bought a Porsche 996 cabriolet and shortly thereafter got hooked on going to the track (the go-fast crack pipe). I decided to keep the 996 as a street car / daily driver (it's intended purpose) and started shopping for what I thought would be the best street legal track car for the buck. I ended up with a 1991 NSX.

I guess people just missed my point.

EDR