Lug Bolt Appears to be spinning!!

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I tell you my 2000 and I are not getting along lately...

So I go to remove my stock wheels (no spacers) and one of the wheels won't come off. The nut is spinning but it will not loosen. I tried an air gun also. I have taken the wheels off before and I alway hand torque to 109 N-m. Any thoughts on this repair? Am I looking at a new hub or can they replace them?

Its been a rough month for my NSX...
 
Two nuts won't come off btw, not just one and I baby this car... Staring to miss my 1992...
 
Sounds good. Is it standard or some special NSX aluminum. I really don't like going to the dealers near me. I frankly trust Midas more unless is specific to the vehicle.
 
First thing to do is to figure out if the stud is spinning in the hub and or the nut is spinning on the stud. Either way you need to apply outward pressure to the wheel while trying to loosen the nut with a impact gun.
 
Sounds good. Is it standard or some special NSX aluminum. I really don't like going to the dealers near me.
I trust the quality of Honda OEM parts. I am wary of the quality of generic parts from auto parts stores. Where aftermarket parts are available offering higher performance and quality than stock, fine. For replacing studs, I'd stick with the factory parts. And keep in mind you're talking about a stock part that lists for only $6 each. Me? I'd be happy to spend $12 for a couple of OEM studs at the parts department at my local dealer, and have them right away. But it's your money, do what you want.

If you don't want to buy OEM parts from your local dealer, you can get them (at a nice discount) from this guy, but for a small order, you'll pay as much for shipping as you'll save on the discount:

 
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I probably wasn't clear. I would rather not do the work at the local dealer but I will be buying OEM parts for sure. I didn't think about all 5 bolts, I could do that. Also, I am sure there are some great dealers out there, the ones near me consistently disappoint though. I spent a bundle on poor work. On my former 1992 after getting my OEM clutch replaced, Larry B then showed me the additional work that really should have been completed while the tranny was apart (when he did the timing belt).

MAYBE,,,,.....this is simple enough to bring to the dealer.... I would love to find a good one close to me that I trust (for smaller items I really don't want to call Larry or Ray Lakes in NYC). I assume this work requires some kind of press.

Last question: Is the NSX a standard hub for Honda or is it NSX-ified? If its standard I would be more likely to take to the dealer. I believe most of the

Thanks all, I will check with the dealer near me on cost and see if I get the warm and fuzzy talking to the tech. Last time they had the trainee change out my lock mechanism and it took me 6 hours to re-align the window and it was never really the same. They of course told me they would not have touched the window. Pretty hard to execute without taking the window out as I understand it...
 
As suspected, a lot more than I had hoped. Just got a quote from a local Acura dealer.

1. Can't buy 2 studs (or 5) need to get 10. $89 (fair from my perspective).
2. To replace two studs the labor is $389 (that appears high two me).
3. They said it will need an alignment $289 (I just had this perfectly aligned by Vince's Autobody so I am not happy about this).
4. They said it may need a new wheel bearing (I am guessing it will not with 58k miles).

So in m looking at $769 for two of them and I will undoubtably get a bad alignment.

I am going to see if Vince's Auto does this work. It may be worth the 1.5 hr drive if I can go and come back in a half a day. Weather ain't stellar up here in New England though...

Woe is me....
 
wow that seems a bit HIGH in my opinion. Assuming the bulk of the labor is removal to get to the studs how much more to change all 10?
 
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As suspected, a lot more than I had hoped. Just got a quote from a local Acura dealer.

1. Can't buy 2 studs (or 5) need to get 10. $89 (fair from my perspective).
2. To replace two studs the labor is $389 (that appears high two me).
3. They said it will need an alignment $289 (I just had this perfectly aligned by Vince's Autobody so I am not happy about this).
4. They said it may need a new wheel bearing (I am guessing it will not with 58k miles).

So in m looking at $769 for two of them and I will undoubtably get a bad alignment.

I am going to see if Vince's Auto does this work. It may be worth the 1.5 hr drive if I can go and come back in a half a day. Weather ain't stellar up here in New England though...

Woe is me....
Way to high,

1. First off all i can see how they want to replace all studs in a hub fair, that would then total 5 not 10.

2. It should take roughly 2 hours which i'd say should run you 150-200$ in labor
is that quote of $389 for just two studs or the complete hub?

3. NSX alignment is different from a regular car but that nothing huge so the quote seems high.
I'm also very picky about alignment on my cars and have my friend/mechanic is the only one that does my cars.
Certainly on a NSX it's highly important to tire life and handling.

4. bearing? on the rear? i'd double check that sounds that they are trying to sell you the bearing so they can just pull the knuckle press the bearing & hub out.
how ever it is theoretically possible that with uneven load the bearing did get damaged.
 
I don't understand why you would need to change ten rather than five.

If you have a really good independent mechanic near home, I'd consider having him do it. Yes, even if he doesn't have NSX experience.
 
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I don't understand why you would need to change ten rather than five.

If you have a really good independent mechanic near home, I'd consider having him do it.
I agree, i don't trust Honda or Acura dealers to automatically know what they are doing with anything other than a Accord or Civic.
I get calls from dealers often for help with diagnosis and parts as they have no real insight in to a NSX, (or Legend/RL in Europe)

That being said a finding a good mechanic you can trust is critical.

What the need to do is just replace 5 studs, inspect bearing for play or damage from uneven load.
THEN judge what to do it's still a $200+ bearing we are talking about.

If it needs replacing so be it but if it's fine, that is what i suspect leave it.
 
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I hear it may not be too difficult to replace the studs myself. Anyone do that? I have access to a heated garage to make it bearable. I did send an inquiry to Vince's also however.
 
If you still need it done when my garage is finished with the SANDY repairs youre more than welcomed to use it. (Heat and AC), Compressors whatever I have you can use.
 
Whoa...that does seem high. And why 10? Are the two stripped lug bolts on seperate hubs?
 
As suspected, a lot more than I had hoped. Just got a quote from a local Acura dealer.

1. Can't buy 2 studs (or 5) need to get 10. $89 (fair from my perspective).
2. To replace two studs the labor is $389 (that appears high two me).
3. They said it will need an alignment $289 (I just had this perfectly aligned by Vince's Autobody so I am not happy about this).
4. They said it may need a new wheel bearing (I am guessing it will not with 58k miles).

So in m looking at $769 for two of them and I will undoubtably get a bad alignment.

I am going to see if Vince's Auto does this work. It may be worth the 1.5 hr drive if I can go and come back in a half a day. Weather ain't stellar up here in New England though...

Woe is me....

If two are striped chances are the others are stressed.
I would replace all studs on the axle "10" I suspect this is why the dealer is quoting a high price.

I don't agree with the need for an alignment. Replacing the studs shouldn't effect the alignment.
I understand they will remove the hub and press out and replace the studs and re-install. The flange should bolt up flush and an alignment shouldn't be required.

If the bearings need to be replaced this would be the time to do it as they have the hub off.

Hope this helps.

Later,
Don
 
I'd recommend picking up a set of aftermarket "extended" studs for replacement. These tend to have a larger and more aggressive knurl to bite into your hub, assuming that the stock studs have stripped out the hub. I traditionally use a stack of hardened washers bathed in bearing grease and hit it with impact. Easy to do with air.
 
You state air makes it easier. Meaning an impact driver with a flat faces but for driving stud in? Just wondering. My father gave me all his air tools when he went to Florida. Not sure I ever used the impact gun/driver/hammer or whatever it is.

I got a quote from a guy that works on NSX's of $300. That is a cost low enough to skip doing myself...

That said, I like working on the car.
 
I'd recommend picking up a set of aftermarket "extended" studs for replacement. These tend to have a larger and more aggressive knurl to bite into your hub, assuming that the stock studs have stripped out the hub. I traditionally use a stack of hardened washers bathed in bearing grease and hit it with impact. Easy to do with air.

Longer studs are good if you need them (spacers) but if using stock closed end lug nuts you could have a problem.
 
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