Lower priced forced induction kit options coming soon. Please give us your input here

[Cody@LoveFab]

Hey guys,

Nathan is in full-install mode. Hopefully him and Barney are able to finish the car tonight for the IA show this weekend.

Other than that, next Friday the 1st is the last day at the $500 discount price of $8495.00. After that, the price will go to it's originally slated $8995. Thought I'd give you guys' a head's up incase anyone is on the fence!

 

[arfnsx]

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My wife drove and I enjoyed the ride. Had to keep the speeds down, sorry guys...

After seeing this video and reading that your wife drove while you recorded, I was like yeah right...but after meeting her and seeing her drive as I chased her...I now believe your every word!

 

[Nsxboy3]

Hey!!! Why is there a pictures of my car doing here??? :tongue: :tongue: JK...It's not my car. That setup looks way more complicated than it should be.

The biggest difference between our kits and other’s low priced kits (there are several more coming) is that our kits fit perfectly without cutting or drilling the car. We use 100% backpurged and welded stainless tubing, not ceramic coated aluminized exhaust tubing. The biggest value in my mind is that our kits are designed right the first time which saves the customer thousands of dollars in the long run.

For example, if fitment was this far off for one of my customers, I would hope that they would expect me to fly out and address the situation instead of cutting their car!

 

[Cody@LoveFab]

Hey guys,

Sale ends tomorrow at midnight, then the price jumps back to $8995.00

I'll have some manifold shots for you guys tonight to show that we aren't messing around.

 

[arfnsx]

I'll have some manifold shots for you guys tonight to show that we aren't messing around.

OOOoooooh Really, I wonder who's car??? :wink:

 

[scorp965]

For example, if fitment was this far off for one of my customers, I would hope that they would expect me to fly out and address the situation instead of cutting their car!

As Marc mentioned, this was done by the PO, in order to fit RM headers to the car. The exhaust manifold clears the brace with the HP kit, and the only cutting required is if you put the air/water reservoir in the trunk, on my car we put it in the spare tire well instead, so no cutting was required.

I have discussed this budget lovefab kit with a few local owners, and it is somewhat exciting, Chris intends to make some kind of bolt on catalytic converter solution, the pricing is right where it should be, and there are a number of (other) lovefab kits on the road, but its difficult to really give an opinion when there are no pictures of the turbo placement or intercooler. From the pictures that are provided, anyone with experience can make a good guess as to the orientation and size of these two components, so I am not sure 'playing it close' is helping, there is only one big open space on that side of the car that allows for a gravity feed without cutting a hole into your trunk. We know the air/air is in the quarter panel, so we also know which way its facing.

I am happy to see any additional turbo nsx's on the road, but if I try to put myself in the place of a prospective buyer, it would help to know what I am buying. I think for the average consumer, these pictures, this information, would be valuable in making a decision, and comparing your solution to the kits produced by other companies.

fwiw, I have 7500 miles on my car since the turbo installation, now making 430rwhp with an 8psi WG spring.

 

[Cody@LoveFab]

Great news that your car has been running well John!

Sometime soon we will disclose more of our locations, but that time is not yet ripe. If customers wish to see more, simply PM or call me and I can arrange to show more detail.

Until then, here are some pictures of our manifolds built in-house. Schedule 40, 304 stainless steel. We have extensively tested these manifolds and have optimized performance for both the 3.0 and 3.2 liter motors while under boost. Fitment is spot-on, every time because of the V-bands.

 

[synergy004]

Hey Cody, what rod are you using on your welds (309L) Looks great.

 

[gsrboy]

Do you sell the manifold kit by itself.

 

[arfnsx]

Great news that your car has been running well John!

Sometime soon we will disclose more of our locations, but that time is not yet ripe. If customers wish to see more, simply PM or call me and I can arrange to show more detail.

Until then, here are some pictures of our manifolds built in-house. Schedule 40, 304 stainless steel. We have extensively tested these manifolds and have optimized performance for both the 3.0 and 3.2 liter motors while under boost. Fitment is spot-on, every time because of the V-bands.

Absolutely Gorgeous! Great work!

 

[Cody@LoveFab]

Thanks for the praise guys.

We use 309L for filler, with copious amounts of argon and backpurging. Turbo manifolds are our core business and have been since day one, so I guess it was natural for us to finally begin production for the NSX.

I will sell the manifolds seperately for $1600.00/pair. However, you'll need secondaries to match(or you will have to build them), and we will not piece those individually.

$8995.00 is the price for the entire budget kit now!

Nathan brought his NSX up for inspection and tuning. Barney did a great job on the install and I recommend him for any installations near the TN/KY area!

Alex's NSX will be running within a few days, and then it's off across the country for the afa Rally!

 

[01blacks4]

so what are the specs on these mani's? what sixe tube? what size collector? on the rear bank, where does it end? facing driver side? how much room is left to bring it back to center?

 

[nathan]

$8995.00 is the price for the entire budget kit now!

Nathan brought his NSX up for inspection and tuning. Barney did a great job on the install and I recommend him for any installations near the TN/KY area!

Alex's NSX will be running within a few days, and then it's off across the country for the afa Rally!

Yes Yes, I have now officially been LoveFabbed. Wow, is all I can say.
I will be home later on tonight, and I will post up some feedback in a new thread tomorrow.

I will say this much......CTSC is a waste of money.

Thanks,
Nathan

 

[Cody@LoveFab]

Nathan, it was awesome to meet you! Everyone that I work with in the NSX community has just been such a pleasure to deal with.

Marc, we build the manifolds to measure 2-1/8" at the collector opening, using 2 1/4" secondary tubing. This 1/8" step provides anti-reversion which helps promote a cleaner burn cycle.

Primaries are 1.63"ID, which when paired with Forced Induction, has worked awesome! We have picked up some pretty significant spool times with our manifolds vs. using standard "headers".

 

[John McCain Racing]

Is the difference between the 2 budget systems the IC? I'm guess the front mount gets more air and could have lower intake temps?

 

[nathan]

Is the difference between the 2 budget systems the IC? I'm guess the front mount gets more air and could have lower intake temps?

I want speak for Cody, but I think the differences are that this systems uses the AEM FIC, vs the full EMS. Big difference. The Air to air IC vs the Water to Air. And the fact that he now builds his own exhaust manifolds, which are better than most factory built headers. Those three items right there are a big cost difference. But, lets let Cody jump in here and give it to you straight.

 

[John McCain Racing]

I want speak for Cody, but I think the differences are that this systems uses the AEM FIC, vs the full EMS. Big difference. The Air to air IC vs the Water to Air. And the fact that he now builds his own exhaust manifolds, which are better than most factory built headers. Those three items right there are a big cost difference. But, lets let Cody jump in here and give it to you straight.

It lists the AEM FIC for both kits on the Lovefab Website and has the EMS for the 15k kit.....

 

[nathan]

It lists the AEM FIC for both kits on the Lovefab Website and has the EMS for the 15k kit.....

Ah ha. Nice catch. Well lets wait for Cody to pop in here and answer that for you then.

 

[nsxtcy85]

Decent tig! are those manifolds equal length :tongue:

 

[Cody@LoveFab]

The full blown kit comes with every bell and whistle needed; 3.5 bar map sensor, UEGO, AEM EMS, etc. etc. This will support 600+rwhp. Most of this isn't needed for the 400whp arena, hence, the subject of this thread. The differences are in the fuel management and intercooling components, and if you're targeting 600+rwhp, the price is well justified. If sub 500rwhp levels are your target, than we have the kit for that too.

*All kits will come spec'd with the LoveFab manifolds. I'll have the site updated shortly to reflect this.

The runner lengths are as close as can be had without adding a significant cost penalty. Performance impacts under positive pressure due to runners being .5" different in length probably couldn't be measured with even the most precise equipment. For example, the Comptech headers that I have measured have significantly different primary lengths.

 

[yacoub]

Absolutely.

The budget kit should be focused on maximizing the potential of the stock engine, as you describe.

Definitely agree that a budget kit finds its biggest audience in folks who aren't planning to build up the engine (they're on a budget, right?) and want to just pull as much potential from the stock engine as can be safely had. This kit looks very enticing!

 

[arfnsx]

With All of this being said, I think we should change the name of this Budget Kit. By saying Budget Kit, you are implying cheapness and your LoveFab Turbo system is no where near cheap. (as in the quality of work)

I think you should rename it to "LoveFab Stage 1".

What do you think? :tongue:

 

[Lotus_Esprit]

Our turbo systems will never be "Emissions Compliant". We are working on a High-flow Cat version for those that want an environmently friendlier turbo NSX.

I dont know much about the EMS that you use, but when i own my subaru impreza wrx and sti i ran Cobb Accessport and on the fly i had different maps that i can switch on and off. I remember they had a map where i can turn the boost down to 0 psi.

is it possible for CA people to switch maps on the fly or reflashing the EMS (without doing a retune by going back to dyno map) to where the turbo does not boost at all, thus allowing them to pass emissions. Where I live, we have no emissions, so i dont have to worry.

 

[nathan]

With All of this being said, I think we should change the name of this Budget Kit. By saying Budget Kit, you are implying cheapness and your LoveFab Turbo system is no where near cheap. (as in the quality of work)

I think you should rename it to "LoveFab Stage 1".

What do you think? :tongue:

I agree completely. This should be renamed, eventually, to Stage 1. Then the next kit up (for those wanted 500-500rwhp), should be Stage 2. And of course, Stage 3 is for those nutty guys like Cody who want tunnel vision when driving. :biggrin:

BTW, your car should be on the dyno by now? Correct?

 

[Cody@LoveFab]

The dyno wouldn't cooperate with Alex's car, so the numbers weren't reliable enough to post. However, I was able to get a good solid tune out of her.

Alex is on the way home to GA, around a 1000 mile trip. Then it's off to the rally next week, 1000 miles north, 3000miles west, then 2000 miles back home. If things go well, there will be a cool surprise near the end. Should be a testament to the kit's performance!!!