Lexus IS official pricing
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Anyone know if this will be available in the Sportcross (wagon) version that was in the is300 model portfolio? I can't see it in any of the pre-release info ...
Da Hapa said:
Ah I'm sorry i meant the LX 470 :tongue:
I do agree that it is a matter of perception. I was curious if you have seen &/or driven the new GS? I personally feel that the acuras' level of quality is much higher than the GS/RX/ES line up. The Lexus's feel too cheap for the price one is paying for them.
Also Lexus has a long ways to go before they can start knocking on BMW's door.
Again this is just my opinion so flame suit on
:biggrin:Does anyone else see a close resemblence between the GS design and hyundai's design???
NsSeX said:
To each their own but IMO, even the loaner RX's that I've driven (which tend to get really beat up) have nicer quality interiors and feel better screwed together than the loaner MDX's I've driven.
I haven't yet driven the current GS but I've sat in a few while waiting for my car to be done. I think the car is very nicely done.
I've spent a lot of time behind the wheel of the last gen GS430 and while it's not my cup of tea, I'd be hard pressed to call that anything but a quality piece.
But that's just me.
D'Ecosse said:
Nothing official has been announced but PR has suggested and rumours abound that Lexus will be offering a coupe, convertible and wagon version of the new IS to better compete with the BMW offerings. A hopped up version with a V8 has been photographed looping the "Ring in Germany as well.
Of all those, I would think the wagon is perhaps the least likely to make it as America still tends to favor big, gas guzzling SUV's over efficient wagons.
I think the wagon would be bad ass.
liftshard said:
Anyone know what kind of warranty do these come with?
donwon said:
4 year 50k, just like the rest of the Lexus lineup.
And I'd like to see the sales numbers for the ES330 versus the TL - I bet Lexus wins that battle. The old IS should be compared to the TSX.
LeftLane said:
Loved the old IS (except for the taillights). This one not so much. I agree it looks bangleriffic, but that's a bad thing IMO.
I've done no research on these, but I do remember that the IS300 came with an auto only at the beginning, but they added a manual in the second or third year.
I've done no research on these, but I do remember that the IS300 came with an auto only at the beginning, but they added a manual in the second or third year.
donwon said:
I took my Touareg in for service on Monday. I have been feeling air escaping from the climate control duct work into the cabin around the passengers door b-pillar where the door meet the pillar. VW told me today fit and finish warranty only last 12 months or 12k miles. I have taken the vehicle in for the same problem within the first 12 months or 12k and they still say no dice.
I really like the Touareg but the service sucks. I had to call the GM up today to get my window tint replaced because they gouged the tint last time the vehicle was in for service. VW dealer says they didn't do it. I gave them a receipt for the tinting which was done 2 days before I took the vehicle in.
After a 1/2 hour on the phone they agreed to fix it. They also dented the brushed aluminum trim on the dash last visit. 
What a bunch of monkeys.
I had new tires installed on this visit and told the service manager in advance that I took pictures of all four wheels in perfect condition before I brought the car in!
I really like the Touareg but the service sucks. I had to call the GM up today to get my window tint replaced because they gouged the tint last time the vehicle was in for service. VW dealer says they didn't do it. I gave them a receipt for the tinting which was done 2 days before I took the vehicle in.
After a 1/2 hour on the phone they agreed to fix it. They also dented the brushed aluminum trim on the dash last visit. What a bunch of monkeys.I had new tires installed on this visit and told the service manager in advance that I took pictures of all four wheels in perfect condition before I brought the car in!
steveny said:
Wow - even GM is better than that. I took my 03 Suburban in for a few warranty items at 35,500 miles (expires at 36k), and the service advisor went over my car in detail because he said the trim items will be out of warranty soon and he wanted to take care of any little squeaks or rattles now if they could find them. He also documented a few things that we couldn't reproduce at the dealership, just so it would be covered later even when I was out of my warranty coverage.
Really makes you want to spend $75 large for a Phaeton, huh? :frown:
I have been seriously shopping the car. MSRP on the window says $42.8k for the top of the line IS350. not sure how the price is so different from what is posted here.
supra2nv said:
Because there are a TON of options. That sucks. Why can't it just be like the TL. The only option on the TL is NAV. For the IS350, the list goes on and on and on....
NetViper said:
You should see the list of options if you ever decide to buy a new Porsche....
You're right, that's what makes the TL (and other Acuras) such a great deal. You don't have to get excited about a $32k car and then find out it's a stripper. BMW has perfected that art. Leatherette, anyone? :tongue:
LeftLane said:
And the MSRP reflects that difference.
BTW - I believe the 4/50 quoted herein is bumper to bumper only. Powertrain is longer.
Dave Hardy said:
Glad to see someone with sense in this thread! Jk...although looks are all personal preference...
This is one of the only if only car that i've seen an agreed consensus that the car is superior to its predecessor in looks and i disagree
The old IS300 is much cleaner, a nice black one with some wheels of your choosing will always own this new weak 'IS350' for 45+ grand! Give me a break!
Da Hapa said:
Disagree on the first point, agree on the second. We just bought an 05 GX470 and paid right around $50k. At that price point and level of car, almost all the of the competitors include scheduled maintenance. I don't feel like I got a discount just because I now pay for my own service.
NetViper said:
Different strokes I suppose. That is one of the reasons I don't like the TL. You're forced to buy a bunch of crap that you may or may not want. I don't want to go back to the days of the 55 Chevy, where seats were an option, but I think way too much crap is standard these days. Give me roll up windows, manual locks, and no air bags please. I hate that 3000# is considered light these days, and I hate that $20,000 is considered cheap. I absolutely love my CRX Si, which cost $8,000 new and weighs 2200#. I wish they still made cars like it.
LeftLane said:
Acura doesn't offer a big V8 powered 5+ passenger SUV but they don't offer scheduled maint.
Infiniti's big, V8 Lux SUV (based on the Armada and I don't know the name) is priced similarly (similarily equipped) and doesn't offer scheduled maint.
MB's new ML isn't as big as the GX but it's offered in V8 form and can seat 5+ with the third row seat and optioned up the same, I'm pretty sure it's quite a bit more than the $50K price point you mentioned. The G wagon is a lot more.
BMW's X5 V8 (also not as big as the GX) and I don't think it seats more than 5 is also quite a bit more expensive than the $50K you mentioned when similarily equipped (I think they start at $54 or $55K and that's without any options).
I agree with everything but the airbags. :biggrin:Dave Hardy said:
What is the bet? The 3-series will outsell this car by a mile. It is, does, and will continue to.
Lexus is simply NOT thought of as on par with BMW. Period. Lexus does offer a prestige increase over Infiniti or Acura, but they are just not BMW anymore than BMW is MB. Lexus cars are CHEAPER than either of the two German marques for a REASON.
I bet it sells well initially and then, REALITY sets in. It's still not a BMW.
Huh? I would. I bet on the Accord and Civic in the NA market because, absent fleet sales, they are the #1 sellers in their prospective niches. Honda had 38 "10 best" models in a decade. Toyota is a fine company which produces a fine product but this particular market space is EXCEEDINGLY competitive and is dominated by two cars, the BMW 3- and the Acura TL. Making serious inroads into this space is going to be HARD to do. The TL is the value buy in this space and the 3- is the prestige buy. Everyone else takes second place. The G35 sedan is a fine car but the TL is on another planet, sales-wise. The current IS isn't even a blip on the screen and it will be hard for Lexus to penetrate this space because Acura has done such a good job with their particular product.
Sorry, but right now, Lexus is in no-man's land. Their cars are too expensive to compete with the better values offered by their Japanese competition and they do not have quite the prestige of the Germans. Look at the sales data over the last 10 years if you do not believe me. Toyota is a great company, but they cannot work miracles. Everyone must know where they are on the pecking order. A $40,000 compact? Who WOULDN'T get a 330?
