HSC=Next NSX?
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More pics of it.
I like Ojas work, it keeps the lineage of old with the radical update of the new
Looks like Brembo calipers....
Still not liking it.....
I just realized that I can't detect a trunk lid on this car.
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I for one hope it's true that Honda actually garners feedback from these forums and follows the consensus that the rear-end still needs a lot of work. It just seems way too confusing and cluttered. Not clean at all. Not in the spirit of the original as well, or is that a bad thing?
To reiterate, these are conceptual models and not actual; hence the "no trunk" tailwork enigma. The concept TL had no side view mirrors and windshield wipers remember? Also funny how the new TL has those nice brembo brakes and the NSX flagship does not. I am sure Honda is bustling for changes left and right. I just got their annual report today being a stock holder.
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It looks great to me considering the stage of development.
I would bet the basic shape was set in wind tunnel so this probably shouldn't change much. They don't have side markers done, so I am sure the lights will have to change anyway. As for the exit of the exhaust, this may be fixed do to air flow from under the car or air exiting the rear that comes from tunnels from the front.
We will see in the end, but I will trust and hope that Honda keeps the best shape for performance and doesn't change the important stuff for styling.
I would bet the basic shape was set in wind tunnel so this probably shouldn't change much. They don't have side markers done, so I am sure the lights will have to change anyway. As for the exit of the exhaust, this may be fixed do to air flow from under the car or air exiting the rear that comes from tunnels from the front.
We will see in the end, but I will trust and hope that Honda keeps the best shape for performance and doesn't change the important stuff for styling.
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Where's the door handle?
just watched a special report on japanese tv last night about the tokyo motor show. Not one pic of the hsc.
The whole focus was the next generation of cars powered by fuel cells. Most companies want them affordable and on the roads by 2010. To do this many companies (if not all) are joining forces (and budgets) to be able to accomplish this task. Enjoy your cars while you can fella's.
The whole focus was the next generation of cars powered by fuel cells. Most companies want them affordable and on the roads by 2010. To do this many companies (if not all) are joining forces (and budgets) to be able to accomplish this task. Enjoy your cars while you can fella's.
AZNSX said:
Honda invented a new brainwave-operated door... ie. the doors opens when your brain want them to...
Nah, check the upper part of the window where the roofline and the b-pillar meets...
Looks like the Acura sales rep I've spoke to back in March of this year wasn't B.S. ing......
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7171&perpage=50&pagenumber=2
Taken from my own post, dated 3-21-03:
It may well be a possibility, as I've talked to one of the local sales rep about Acura's new sports car, due in 2 years. According to this guy, his boss just returned from an Acura dealer's meeting in Japan. The purpose of their meeting? To see, and vote into production, the new Honda/Acura exotic sports car prototype (sic. or concept as we now know) that will take the place of the NSX. This car will be a $50,000 mid-engined coupe, smaller and lighter than the NSX but bigger than the first gen MR2, and have a NA motor that puts out minimum of 350 horses. It will be hand-built but no info was disclosed as to what type of material will be used for the chasis/body panel construction. As far as styling goes, the sales guy said the boss told him the tail lights assy' will resemble that of a modern Ferrari (ie. round).
So how reliable is this source? Well, only time will tell. If such is true, then the current NSX will certainly become an instant classic.
Hmm..... round tail lite assy'..... Make NO MISTAKE about it!! The car he was describing has to be the HSC concept!!!! (Thanks for sharing the secret , Mr. Acura sales rep ! Don't worry, I won't reveal your name
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http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7171&perpage=50&pagenumber=2
Taken from my own post, dated 3-21-03:
It may well be a possibility, as I've talked to one of the local sales rep about Acura's new sports car, due in 2 years. According to this guy, his boss just returned from an Acura dealer's meeting in Japan. The purpose of their meeting? To see, and vote into production, the new Honda/Acura exotic sports car prototype (sic. or concept as we now know) that will take the place of the NSX. This car will be a $50,000 mid-engined coupe, smaller and lighter than the NSX but bigger than the first gen MR2, and have a NA motor that puts out minimum of 350 horses. It will be hand-built but no info was disclosed as to what type of material will be used for the chasis/body panel construction. As far as styling goes, the sales guy said the boss told him the tail lights assy' will resemble that of a modern Ferrari (ie. round).
So how reliable is this source? Well, only time will tell. If such is true, then the current NSX will certainly become an instant classic.
Hmm..... round tail lite assy'..... Make NO MISTAKE about it!! The car he was describing has to be the HSC concept!!!! (Thanks for sharing the secret , Mr. Acura sales rep ! Don't worry, I won't reveal your name
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To all who wants/miss Brembos at the NSX: The name itself makes not a better brake, there are also many bad Brembos on the market - latest example: The Saleen S7 road version.
I have Brembos too but they were manufactured tightly to a plan from a german sportscar company.
I have Brembos too but they were manufactured tightly to a plan from a german sportscar company.
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The design of the engine glass hatch and vent holes looks like an after-thought. It doesn't integrate well with the shape / lines around it.
Besides, if Honda wanted to copy Ferrari and show case the engine, don't put a small window to show only the intake manifold cover, showcase the entire engine. Unless, the engine wasn't pretty enough to show, in which case, get rid of the glass and cover it up.
Besides, if Honda wanted to copy Ferrari and show case the engine, don't put a small window to show only the intake manifold cover, showcase the entire engine. Unless, the engine wasn't pretty enough to show, in which case, get rid of the glass and cover it up.
If such is the case, it will not be called NSX. Would all the people who don't like the HSC be more happy?
Zanardi 50 said:Looks like the Acura sales rep I've spoke to back in March of this year wasn't B.S. ing......
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7171&perpage=50&pagenumber=2
Taken from my own post, dated 3-21-03:
It may well be a possibility, as I've talked to one of the local sales rep about Acura's new sports car, due in 2 years. According to this guy, his boss just returned from an Acura dealer's meeting in Japan. The purpose of their meeting? To see, and vote into production, the new Honda/Acura exotic sports car prototype (sic. or concept as we now know) that will take the place of the NSX. This car will be a $50,000 mid-engined coupe, smaller and lighter than the NSX but bigger than the first gen MR2, and have a NA motor that puts out minimum of 350 horses. It will be hand-built but no info was disclosed as to what type of material will be used for the chasis/body panel construction. As far as styling goes, the sales guy said the boss told him the tail lights assy' will resemble that of a modern Ferrari (ie. round).
So how reliable is this source? Well, only time will tell. If such is true, then the current NSX will certainly become an instant classic.
Hmm..... round tail lite assy'..... Make NO MISTAKE about it!! The car he was describing has to be the HSC concept!!!! (Thanks for sharing the secret , Mr. Acura sales rep ! Don't worry, I won't reveal your name
NSX-Racer said:
As I posted above, the new Acura TL 6-spd is apparently going to come with the Brembo Grand Tourismo kit currently sold for the 1st Gen. NSX, based on the part # listed by Acura.
If that is the case, we should expect similar or better brakes for the NSX, and likely Brembos. I haven't heard anything negative about the GT kit, and I would hope it is equal or better than what Porsche uses as you reference above.
I like it A L O T..
From Honda's official site
http://world.honda.com/factbook/auto/motorshow/200310/05.html - posted yesterday. There's nothing really new, but it is on Honda's site. The more it read and think about the HSC, the less it seems less likely to be a successor to the NSX. No doubt, I like the looks, it has some NSX cues, and the concept has some great technology, but it certainly does not appear to be "revolutionary" like the NSX was. This and other releases have phrases like "anyone can handle", "pure sports car", and so on, but nothing like "raising the bar for performance cars", "pushing the performance envelope", etc. ... sounds more like a description of a something like S2000/Elise/C5 than a Ferrari. Also, nothing from Honda (as far as I know), mention HSC and NSX together in the same sentance.
Perhaps... (speculation-mode on)
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http://world.honda.com/factbook/auto/motorshow/200310/05.html - posted yesterday. There's nothing really new, but it is on Honda's site. The more it read and think about the HSC, the less it seems less likely to be a successor to the NSX. No doubt, I like the looks, it has some NSX cues, and the concept has some great technology, but it certainly does not appear to be "revolutionary" like the NSX was. This and other releases have phrases like "anyone can handle", "pure sports car", and so on, but nothing like "raising the bar for performance cars", "pushing the performance envelope", etc. ... sounds more like a description of a something like S2000/Elise/C5 than a Ferrari. Also, nothing from Honda (as far as I know), mention HSC and NSX together in the same sentance.
Perhaps... (speculation-mode on)
- HSC be could an additional model to the Honda line-up and not an NSX replacement. It could have production of around 5000 units per year and would cost less than the the current NSX. Maybe closer to S2000 prices than NSX prices.
- The NSX would continue for a few years, while Honda is working on a major redesign with increased performance (including power) to compete with F360 successor, 911TT, C6, etc. Price would be at least that of current model and when released would once again be a technology showcase for Honda.
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My two cents worth;
It shouldn't be called the HSC. Why? Because then it would be the Honda Honda Sports Concept. So it should be the Honda SC.
Also anyone in Australia when told you have a HSC, will reply, they have been to school too. (Aussies will get that one).
I use my wing mirrors as a guide when I put my NSX in the garage to get the car close to the wall. How will I do this with the little wing cameras, or whatever they are? Do I use the front wing (fender), and stop when I hear scraping?
And imagine the stone chips you'll get on that front centre bit.
I'll still have one, please take my comments as tongue in cheek
It shouldn't be called the HSC. Why? Because then it would be the Honda Honda Sports Concept. So it should be the Honda SC.
Also anyone in Australia when told you have a HSC, will reply, they have been to school too. (Aussies will get that one).
I use my wing mirrors as a guide when I put my NSX in the garage to get the car close to the wall. How will I do this with the little wing cameras, or whatever they are? Do I use the front wing (fender), and stop when I hear scraping?
And imagine the stone chips you'll get on that front centre bit.
I'll still have one, please take my comments as tongue in cheek
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I doubt the hsc w/ the specs of 300+hp and paddle shift etc. will be a replacement for the s2000 since the hsc should cost significantly more than 30k.
Since honda/acura has not retained names for older models, i.e. integra, legend, slx, it would seem that they will also retire the nsx name. Almost everyone loved the legend but they retired that name. The last TL had some of the same lines as the legend but it cost less.
If honda wants to be like Ferrari then the so called replancement will have a slightly different name.
I doubt the hsc w/ the specs of 300+hp and paddle shift etc. will be a replacement for the s2000 since the hsc should cost significantly more than 30k.
Since honda/acura has not retained names for older models, i.e. integra, legend, slx, it would seem that they will also retire the nsx name. Almost everyone loved the legend but they retired that name. The last TL had some of the same lines as the legend but it cost less.
If honda wants to be like Ferrari
then the so called replancement will have a slightly different name.
An italian friend is there at the show...
