how is spare tire correctly stowed in an NSX

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Could some describe or post a picture or two of how a spare tire is supposed to be stored in the car please.

my spare looks like it's been used at one time or anouther and when I bought the car the guy had it in his gagage instead of the front of the car... and the other NSX I looked at in person did not have the tire fastened down, and just had it loose in there

what does the actual :hold down" look like... I do not have one? Is it common to another acuras that I can buy on e bay?

does the spare just sit on that aluminum pan in the trunk or is there a more elaborate holder missing in my car?

thanks very much guys
 
there is a nut and rubber grommet that screws into the upper part of the metal bar which secures the tire.I'm sure our parts diagram gurus will post an exploded pic.
 
thanks for reminding me I put mine back in for my trip to NSXPO
havent taken it out and thrown it away yet. LOL

its worthless and adds weight to the car.

BUT its part of the Crush ZONE for your car to save your life.

so take it with a grain of salt
 
Here is a diagram

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org...FENDER&ListAll=All&vinsrch=no&systemcomp=List All&vinnoT=&trim=&trans=&view=normal

It is listed under Front Fender

The upper right corner is a close up. Part 24 is the nut-washer 94071-06050.

It also shows the other parts, but it appears you may have those from the picture. I ordered a part 14, rubber that was missing. Also the Cusion Space Saver Tire on my car was tore, so I ordered a new one. It was fine without them, but I try to keep mine fairly original.

Like Shawn mentioned for the most part the spare is useless. I would probably call a tow in town before using the spare.

Oops the was the picture. You may be missing the part 5 - PlateSST Hold if so, I would probably do without or see if you could find it used. Hopefully you have that part.
 
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there is a nut and rubber grommet that screws into the upper part of the metal bar which secures the tire.I'm sure our parts diagram gurus will post an exploded pic.
More details... The vertical support bars directly behind the tire are in a "T" shape. The "nut" is actually a large wing nut (shown as #11 in the first diagram below). The tire rests against three rubber parts that should be present but are sometimes missing; one is a silver dollar sized rubber disk (#13 in the second diagram), and the other two are caps for the ends of the horizontal portion of the "T" (#14 in the second diagram).



 
As long as it is in good working order it is not worthless if you have a flat as it works fine, as intended, if properly inflated.

FYI the spare was not part of the engineered crash protection design.
 
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The upper right corner is a close up. Part 24 is the nut-washer 94071-06050.
That merely holds down the bracket, and has nothing to do with the parts that are used to hold down the spare (see above).

Like Shawn mentioned for the most part the spare is useless. I would probably call a tow in town before using the spare.
I used my spare once. It got me home from Road America when I had a tire damaged. It sure was a whole lot easier to put the spare on than trying to buy and install a replacement tire locally, which would have meant the choice between staying an extra couple of days to have the proper tire shipped, or buying a same-size tire to get me home that I would never have used again. I sure was glad I had my spare with me so that I could avoid either of those alternatives. (The only time I left my spare home was on track trips when I had four track tires in the car with me, so I could use one of those as a spare if needed. And yes, I did that once, too.)
 
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I would not remove my spare personally. I have had my NSX about 6 months, and have already had 2 tires blow out on me. Both times was less than 2 miles from home, so using a tow truck would have been a waste IMO.
 
I read somewhere possibly on Prime

that it was part of the crash testing

but again, again, again, again, again I am pointed out I am wrong.

cool..

when i got my 2002 wreck parts car, the car had the spare still inside, and after looking closely peeling back the hood and cutting the frame rails out to get to the spare, if the spare was not there what ever the person hit would have gone further into the car possibly causing more injury but thats just what I have seen in person.


but again I am prob wrong and will be shown my error in the next few posts
with typical diagrams, and pics, and quotes for some Honda service manual, to prove it.

its OK. life goes on

but think about it in a crash would you want nothing there???? or a big rubber wrapped wheel.....

I think in a wreck the tire WOULD prob help.

thanks for reading
 
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Uehara even said in a Q/A that the spare tire is not part of the crash protection.


Another question. If I want to replace the tire on my spare, where can I get it from?
 
don't quote me but someone in the last few years posted that another manufac spare inflatable fit our cars,i thing it was a mazda,Hrant may have been the one...try searching for spare tire alternatives.Inflating it not an issue,but I've heard from some folks that getting it deflated and back in proper collapsed form can be a pita
 
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Another question. If I want to replace the tire on my spare, where can I get it from?
Post a wanted ad on NSXPrime. I know that a bunch of the people I have talked to lump the spare tire in with the stock exhaust as parts they don't know WTF to do with. I bet that you can find someone who will part ways with his/her spare for the right dollar sign.
 
Shawn, you're not alone, I stand corrected too.

I heard the spare tire on the front of the old VW Buses worked as part of protecting the passengers. Apart from the spare their legs were the next part of the crinkle zone. I would think the spare in the NSX would would work similarly. :biggrin:

Oh, I didn't mean to say the spare is completely worthless. I drive with mine most of the time. I would use it if I had too. But by the time I figured out how to seal it and use my tools from the trunk, I could probably have somebody there to help.

I would definitley have the spare with me on a trip. Like Shawn taking his to CO from FL.

Anytime I drive to a car show, my spare is always in my car. Mostly because so many people are amazed by the spare. It amazes me how the spare amazes so many people.
 
I had been told many years ago that the spare was part of the crash protection -- I stand corrected. Still I leave it in -- even for track days. I question if the alignment might change if that weight is removed (unless the car was aligned with the spare removed)... probably not a big deal either way.
By the way, deflating an inflated spare is really easy -- just remove the valve stem and watch it fold itself back up (I did it one boring afternoon).
 
so it's clearly debunked that the spare is needed for crash protection.

the other impression i had was that having the spare in somehow helped the airflow or aerodynamics of the car,which seems a bit far-fetched now that i think about it.

what say ye,o knowledgeable ones?
 
Ok I stand corrected but...

would you want it there in a front end wreck?

or without

I would think Yes if it was there it may help

I dont think anyone has ever tested the NSX without one vs with one.
 
Anytime I drive to a car show, my spare is always in my car. Mostly because so many people are amazed by the spare. It amazes me how the spare amazes so many people.

Yup, I get the same thing.

I was thinking of replacing it with a rotating hampster wheel and a stuffed toy to amuse the kids.

My buddy does SFX for a studio and was BS-ing about mocking me up a fake fusion reactor rotating assembly, blinkin lights and all :)
 
Inflating it not an issue,but I've heard from some folks that getting it deflated and back in proper collapsed form can be a pita
Just a little. You'll need to remove the core of the valve stem to allow air to escape, and you can use a ratcheting strap to collapse it evenly. It's a bit more snug after using it than before. Not really a big deal.

Post a wanted ad on NSXPrime. I know that a bunch of the people I have talked to lump the spare tire in with the stock exhaust as parts they don't know WTF to do with. I bet that you can find someone who will part ways with his/her spare for the right dollar sign.
Anyone who got a big brake kit probably never uses theirs, so it might not be too hard to find one. Just keep in mind that even if you find one, it might be twenty years old, which is really old as tires go.

Still I leave it in -- even for track days.
I used to leave mine in the car on the track, and ran into two problems resulting from the high g-forces acting on the spare. The wing nut that mounted the tire to the T bracket worked loose and the threads wore down, so it stopped holding it securely; even on the street, it would work itself loose. Also, a bolt that secures the top of the T bracket worked itself loose and fell out. For these reasons, I decided it was better to remove the spare before taking the car out on the track.
 


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