Help, Seeking advice on a Problematic Neighbor who Videotapes, Photographs, etc.

Try talking nice to her. Let her know that you respect her and want to get along. Be sincere and try to convince her you are willing to do what ever it takes to be friends again.
A thoughtful, heartfelt appeal is sure to win her over and change the way you get along.

Yeah, then maybe afterwards you guys could have a great laugh over some herbal tea, and push eachother on the swings on the playground, then hold hands running through daisy fields!!! :rolleyes:
 
a neighbor couple with whom we're casual friends had a next door neighbor (family) who objected to the fact that the people we knew skinny dipped in their pool... even though there was a fence blocking the view from ground level. turns out the objecting neighbor's kids would climb in their tree house to watch them skinny dip

when their case was eventually dismissed, the complainers finally moved.

UH-MAZING :frown:

Is that house still for sale?!?!
 
That guy is totally doing "the shocker" all wrong.

Here we go :smile:

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I'm concerned that if you confront her, or threaten her with litigation, she might try to retaliate in a mentally unstable fashion. As others have mentioned, she might be suffering from a psychological disorder. These individuals can be unpredictable and quite dangerous. I would proceed with caution.
 
If anyone here were to be taking pictures and video of children in there bathing suits in there swimming pool I think that would be grounds enough for an investigation.
 
Sounds to me like a person with a highly serious personality dissorder.
To become a projection screen of such persons can shape up to serious proplems and may be dangerous. (Projection of unpleasant characteristics in the self onto others and projective identification, a process where the psycho tries to elicit in others the feelings s/he is having.)

By going to law it's important to see not partial offences of what she is doing (she will lie or find allegedly rational reasons and feels then in her act quite confirmed, cause you are the pig...and things will escalate) but the whole behaviour as an expression of a heavy personality dissorder.

I made some experiences with such a person in the past for a period of six years. She started rumors about me being secretly criminal.

You may precautiously inform the police and look for a lawyer who has in any case some knowledge and experiences with psychologically ill opponents.

I fully agree to Psychobiology's post.

Regards Michael
 
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These individuals can be unpredictable and quite dangerous. I would proceed with caution.


Do you think she might throw full tuna fish cans through all her windows except one. Then jump through the last window and land 30 feet below, jump to her feet and pick up her tuna fish and walk back in her apartment and sit down on the couch like nothing happened?

Well that's what one of our tenants did last month right in front of me and my wife. My wife just calmly says, looks like Robin is off her meds again. I answer with I will get the glass repairman here tomorrow.
 
The more i read the more i start crying of laughter, Any ways i was going to say run her over at night. OK seriously i agree with the get your own cam and do the same thing she does , if she keeps doing it then ask her family members if she has a womens fax report , you now just like car fax but women fax , if nothing wrong with her you can invite her over and bang her. Or you can just file a lawsuit but thats more expensive then just DRIVING her over , make sure you headlights or off and its after 9 pm . BTW what nationality is she?
 
I forget... What's the term for someone else infringing on your rights to enjoy your own property? There's a term for it.....
 
The more i read the more i start crying of laughter, Any ways i was going to say run her over at night. OK seriously i agree with the get your own cam and do the same thing she does , if she keeps doing it then ask her family members if she has a womens fax report , you now just like car fax but women fax , if nothing wrong with her you can invite her over and bang her. Or you can just file a lawsuit but thats more expensive then just DRIVING her over , make sure you headlights or off and its after 9 pm . BTW what nationality is she?

Dude!!!...you just got "Unbanned"...what the hell are you doing?....If you keep making stupid and inflamitory posts like this you are gonna get banned agian....I thought you learned something last time.:frown:
 
Do you think she might throw full tuna fish cans through all her windows except one. Then jump through the last window and land 30 feet below, jump to her feet and pick up her tuna fish and walk back in her apartment and sit down on the couch like nothing happened?

Well that's what one of our tenants did last month right in front of me and my wife. My wife just calmly says, looks like Robin is off her meds again. I answer with I will get the glass repairman here tomorrow.
Haha. Wow. :D
 
:frown: How do I begin?

First, a short history:

About two years ago, someone bought the house across the street from us. At first, she seemed to be very nice, and ecstatic about buying her home. She then became more active in the HOA. Things went downhill from there. She started accusing the board members of corruption, stealing money, hiring maintenance contractors that the board members had a personal stake in, etc. etc. She started suing the HOA constantly, draining our budget to the point where the HOA no longer fights her.

To the point:

She takes videos and still pictures of us. On a few occasions, she has taken videos and pictures of my neighbor's children who were in their bathing suits playing in their pool backyard.

She has installed video cameras on her house. She walks/drives around videotaping and taking pictures of everyone from her car, driveway or sidewalk.

For the past 3 months, she has targeted my family. Why do I say that? Other than making it VERY obvious that she is videotaping and taking pictures of us, she now walks on the sidewalk in front of my house, up and down verbally 'cursing' us. "I curse everything this family does, I curse this house, I curse these cars, I curse it all." She also takes pictures of the license plates of any car that parks on our driveway.

Up to this point, we have ignored her thinking she will go away. There have been a few times that we say "Is there a problem, can we help you?" when she walks up and down the sidewalk in front of our driveway. She never responds, she just takes out her camera phone and takes pictures.

Is there any advice anyone can give me on how to handle this situation? My concern is now growing about the safety of my family and property. I don't know what the laws are concerning photography of subjects on private party... but something is just not right.

Is there anything I, or my fellow homeowners can do?

Any advice at all? (Other than stepping on the gas when I see her cross the street.)

Wow! This is ironic. I have this neighbor across the street from me in San Diego with some fancy sportscar who is up to all kinds of criminal activity. I tried going through the HOA but after numerous lawsuits etc, nothing was done so I started putting video cameras on my house and recording all of their activities......oh.......wait.... never mind.

Just kidding, good luck solving your problem. I thought my neighbor's yippy dog was annoying, I can't imagine what you are going through.
 
Damnnit Bob you beat me to it again :). Joe...you are suuuch a boyscout!



Yeah, then maybe afterwards you guys could have a great laugh over some herbal tea, and push eachother on the swings on the playground, then hold hands running through daisy fields!!! :rolleyes:
 
Do you think she might throw full tuna fish cans through all her windows except one. Then jump through the last window and land 30 feet below, jump to her feet and pick up her tuna fish and walk back in her apartment and sit down on the couch like nothing happened?

Well that's what one of our tenants did last month right in front of me and my wife. My wife just calmly says, looks like Robin is off her meds again. I answer with I will get the glass repairman here tomorrow.

That's a new story, but it doesn't surprise me at all. I have seen, heard, and studied numerous cases of abnormal behavior. I guess nothing people do really shocks me anymore. If you can imagine some sort of bizarre thing a human can do, most likely somebody has done it. Human behavior is definitely fascinating, to say the least.
 
The more i read the more i start crying of laughter, Any ways i was going to say run her over at night. OK seriously i agree with the get your own cam and do the same thing she does , if she keeps doing it then ask her family members if she has a womens fax report , you now just like car fax but women fax , if nothing wrong with her you can invite her over and bang her. Or you can just file a lawsuit but thats more expensive then just DRIVING her over , make sure you headlights or off and its after 9 pm . BTW what nationality is she?

How in the world did you get unbanned? "Women Fax Report"? Running her over at night with the headlights off? :rolleyes: Nationality? I think you mean ethnicity. The nationality of most people living and working in the United States is American. Regardless, what does it matter what her nationality/ethnicity is?
 
This is friggin nuts.

Like out of a movie or something.

Personally, if I was in this situation, I would move.
Good luck
 
The more i read the more i start crying of laughter, Any ways i was going to say run her over at night. OK seriously i agree with the get your own cam and do the same thing she does , if she keeps doing it then ask her family members if she has a womens fax report , you now just like car fax but women fax , if nothing wrong with her you can invite her over and bang her. Or you can just file a lawsuit but thats more expensive then just DRIVING her over , make sure you headlights or off and its after 9 pm . BTW what nationality is she?

You know....this kid (tjobeid) is a complete idiot and apparently does not learn from past mistakes.
 
I wouldn't do this:

1. Break into her house
2. Install baby monitor or similar device in attic area(hidden under insulation and turned all the way up.
3. Around 10pm or so every night, make a few sounds on your side of the baby monitor.
4. Wait for a rainy night when the power goes out and light it up making noises.

It wont take her too long to move out.

You could amp up the effect if you know someone who could rig a remote control device(X10, etc) that could somehow short the breakerbox remotely. Cut her power a lot, THEN make the noises. Good times....
 
Well I don't usualy make light of peoples' illness but you and your neighbors could put tin foil hats around your heads for a day,,ala the movie "signs",see how that goes over:redface:
 
Seriously, Conrad has a problem he is forced to deal with, and the bullsh@@ responces many of you give provide ZERO help. If you were in his shoes you would hope for a little bit more enlightened response IMO. There has to be a better plan.
 
I read this today and thought about you so I am reposting what I read here.



The Snoop Next Door
Bad parking, loud talking -- no transgression is too trivial to document online. Peep at these new Web sites for outing fellow citizens.
By JENNIFER SARANOW


Last month, Eva Burgess was eating breakfast at the Rose Cafe in Venice, Calif., when she remembered she needed to make an appointment with her eye doctor. So the New York theater director got on her cellphone and booked a date.

Almost immediately, she started receiving "weird and creepy" calls directing her to a blog. There, under the posting "Eva Burgess Is Getting Glasses!" her name, cellphone number and other details mentioned in her call to the doctor's office were posted, along with the admonition, "next time, you might take your business outside." The offended blogger had been sitting next to Ms. Burgess in the cafe.


It used to be the worst you could get for a petty wrong in public was a rude look. Now, it's not just brutal police officers, panty-free celebrities and wayward politicians who are being outed online. The most trivial missteps by ordinary folks are increasingly ripe for exposure as well. There is a proliferation of new sites dedicated to condemning offenses ranging from bad parking (Caughtya.org) and leering (HollaBackNYC.com) to littering (LitterButt.com) and general bad behavior (RudePeople.com). One site documents locations where people have failed to pick up after their dogs. Capturing newspaper-stealing neighbors on video is also an emerging genre.

Helping drive the exposés are a crop of entrepreneurs who hope to sell advertising and subscriptions. One site that lets people identify bad drivers is about to offer a $5 monthly service, for people to register several of their own plate numbers and receive notices if they are cited by other drivers. But the traffic and commercial prospects for many of the sites are so limited that clearly there is something else at work.


The embrace of the Web to expose trivial transgressions in part represents a return to shame as a check on social behavior, says Henry Jenkins, director of the comparative media studies program at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Some academics believe shame became less powerful as a control over everyday interactions with strangers in all but very small neighborhoods or social groups, as people moved to big cities or impersonal suburbs where they existed more anonymously.

The sites documenting minor wrongs are the flip side of an online vigilantism movement that tackles meatier social issues. Community organization Cop Watch Los Angeles encourages users to send in stories and pictures of people being brutalized or harassed by police, for posting on the Web. The governor of Texas plans to launch a site this year that will air live video of the border, in hopes that people will watch and report illegal crossings. In a trial run in November, the site received more than 14,000 emails. Tips included spottings of individuals swimming in the Rio Grande, a person wearing a large white hat and a "wild" boy at the border. In China, Web postings have become a powerful social weapon, used to rally thousands of people to hound a man who allegedly had an affair with a married woman.

For people singled out, the sites can represent an unsettling form of street justice, with no due process. Chris Roth's driving skills have been roundly criticized online by self-anointed traffic monitors. "This man needs his license revoked," wrote one poster, who accused Mr. Roth of cutting in and out. Another charged him with driving on a shoulder and having the audacity to "flip off" an old lady who wouldn't let him cut in.

Mr. Roth found the critiques when an anonymous writer added a comment to his MySpace profile in late November directing him to PlateWire, one of the handful of new sites devoted to bad driving. There, a user had posted Mr. Roth's license-plate information -- his vanity plate reads "IDRVFAST" -- and complained about his reckless driving style. Subsequent posters found and listed his full name, cellphone number and link to his MySpace page, as well as comments like "big jerk" and "meathead." (He has no idea how they found his information.) Chris Roth was criticized by anonymous posters on one site for his driving skills. "There is no accountability. You can just go online and say whatever you want whether it's factual or not," says the 37-year-old Mr. Roth, of Raleigh, N.C., who works in technology sales. He admits he is an impatient driver and speeds, but he has no plans to change his driving style based on posts by anonymous commentators. "Who are they to decide what is safe or not?" he says.

If you type "ycantpark" into photo-sharing site Flickr, there are about 200 photos of bad parking jobs at Yahoo Inc.'s Sunnyvale, Calif., headquarters. The company says the posts were started anonymously around 2005 by employees disgruntled with the parking situation. During that year, Yahoo hired more than 2,100 new employees, and finding a parking space become difficult. "I don't want to have my car posted up there so I definitely think twice about how I park," says Yahoo spokeswoman Heidi Burgett.

The digital age allows critics to quickly find a fair amount of information about their targets. One day last November, at about 11:30 a.m., a blog focused on making New York streets more bike-friendly posted the license plate number of an SUV driver who allegedly accelerated from a dead stop to hit a bicycle blocking his way.

At 1:16 p.m., someone posted the registration information for the license plate, including the SUV owner's name and address. (The editor of the blog thinks the poster got the information from someone who had access to a license-plate look-up service, available to lawyers, private investigators and police.) At 1:31 p.m., another person added the owner's occupation, his business's name and his title. Ten minutes later, a user posted a link to an aerial photo of the owner's house. Within another hour, the posting also included the accused's picture and email address. Continue to Page Two

The SUV's owner, Ian Goldman, the chief executive of Celerant Technology Corp. in the New York City borough of Staten Island, declined to comment for this article. According to an email exchange posted on the blog, Mr. Goldman said that he had lent the vehicle in question to a relative with "an urgent medical situation" and that he was not aware of any incident. The alleged victim has decided to drop the matter since the damage to the bicycle, which he was standing next to at the time, was under $20. Last month, Aaron Naparstek, editor of the blog, says he removed Mr. Goldman's home and email addresses from the site after receiving a "lawyerly cease and desist" email asking that the whole posting be deleted.


Other sites have also received complaints asking that posts be removed. Most say they will remove identifying information like phone numbers or full names when it comes to their attention or if asked. Yet lawyers say alleged wrongdoers shamed online typically have little legal recourse under libel and privacy laws if the accusations in postings are true, if they are posters' opinions about behavior witnessed in a public place and if the personal information listed is available to the public. "It becomes very difficult when it comes to the shaming sites in terms of what you can do in creating a case," says Daniel Solove, an associate professor of law at George Washington University Law School, who is working on a book about gossiping, shaming and privacy on the Internet.

Caughtya.org hosts pictures of cars illegally parked in handicapped spaces. (Other objects qualify, too; one photo from Plano, Texas, is called "Big Rubber Chicken parked in accessible parking spaces.") Playground snoops can log onto the five-month-old Isaw-yournanny.blogspot.com, where users have posted details about nannies committing misdeeds, like feeding children Ho Hos.

Some of the sites are attracting little attention. Caughtya.org lists fewer than 10 U.S. infractions, RudePeople.com has about six stories of rudeness and Irate-Driver.com has none.

Many ask for donations to cover costs, but some owners are hoping to make money. Mark Buckman launched PlateWire in May after almost getting run off the road a few months earlier by several drivers, including one who was looking in his backseat and steering with his leg. The site now lists nearly 25,000 license-plate numbers, chastised for moves like tailgating with brights on and driving too slowly in the left lane. To drum up revenue, Mr. Buckman recently added advertising and an online store with branded merchandise. Users in about 15 states can also pay $2 to have a postcard sent to an offending driver, directing the accused to the site. He plans to launch another site this year that will allow people to rate and complain about local businesses and individuals. "If I can create jobs and create an empire that would be awesome, but my main goal is to make a Web site that can actually make real world changes," Mr. Buckman says.

Yahoo photo site Flickr has an "I hate stupid people" group that focuses on shots of regular people parking or dressing badly, among other misdeeds. It has nearly 60 members, as does the similar "Jerks" group, for pictures of "neighbor cats pooping on your lawn" or SUVs parked in compact spots. On Google Inc.'s YouTube, users have contributed videos of minor wrongs, like people cutting in line. On the blogs, one poster refers to this new form of revenge as "blogslapping," a word that previously just referred to when one blogger criticizes another's blog.

Caught on Tape

After Tim Halberg's Santa Barbara [Calif.] News-Press didn't show up on his doorstep for six days straight last March, he grabbed his camera and launched a stakeout. He stayed up all night waiting for the newspaper to arrive. When it did, he attached a note declaring, "I'm watching you! Don't ever steal my paper again," and left it on the driveway. Then he waited with his front door open a crack to catch the thief. The robed culprit: His neighbor at the time, a man who looks to be in his 50s. Mr. Halberg captured him on video walking up to the paper, reading the note and walking away.


Would You Tattle?

Mr. Halberg never approached the neighbor about the issue directly, but he found four of the older newspapers in front of his house the next day. The 26-year-old wedding photographer posted the video on YouTube, where it's been viewed more than 850 times.

Online shaming is happening across the world, with several well-publicized cases in China. Last fall, one blogger posted photos and the license plate number of a Beijing driver who got out of his car and threw aside the bicycle of a woman blocking his way. The driver was quickly identified by Internet vigilantes and soon apologized on television for his behavior. And on a popular Web site last year, after one husband accused a student of having an affair with his wife, other users posted the student's phone number and other personal details. After that, groups of people showed up at his university and parents' home, according to some reports. The student denied the affair.

Some suggest that public shaming could be used here as a tool for social betterment. In a paper in the November issue of the New York University Law Review, Lior Strahilevitz, a law professor at the University of Chicago, suggested that roads would be safer if every car had a "How's My Driving?" placard on the bumper asking other drivers to report bad behavior.

The neighbor-as-Big-Brother approach is already being deployed offline. Since August, spectators at Cincinnati Bengals home games have been able to call 513-381-JERK to complain about rowdy fans. When a call comes in, security zooms in on the area with stadium cameras, confirms there's a problem and dispatches security. Initially, the hotline was receiving more than 100 calls a game, about 75% of which were crank calls. Reports were recently down to about 40 a game, with less than 25% being crank calls.

Posting a snarky message online is often safer than confronting bad behavior face to face. "You never know how people are going to react in person," says Scott Terry, 32, who works in advertising in Chicago. Last spring, he posted a photo on Flickr of a "cell phone bus yapper" who disrupted his morning commute. The caption: "Can't you use your inside voice?"

For others, posting can be revenge enough. In April, Grace Davis, 51, a stay-at-home mom in Santa Cruz, Calif., captured a "pushy customer" wearing a Hermès-like scarf and black sunglasses while ordering around sales people at Molinari Delicatessen in San Francisco with words like "gimme." Ms. Davis posted the photo online and wrote "Not nice! No fresh Molinari raviolis for you, madam" over the woman's face. "I can just happily walk away," says Ms. Davis, "because as we say in New Age Santa Cruz, 'It's out in the universe now.'"


Also try this link ..... its about nosey neighbors and Neighbors from Hell !

http://messageboards.aol.com/aol/en_us/articles.php?boardId=567745&func=3
 
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