fastest way around a corner/track

fastest way around a corner/race track

  • drifting around a corner

    Votes: 8 14.8%
  • grip driving around a corner

    Votes: 46 85.2%

  • Total voters
    54
Actually my comments were for visitors not the trackers here, it is unthinkable that anyone who has any experience was serious. Try this on the import forums and you will realize just how deeply rooted this misconception is...


BTW: You all notice how my car is in front of Bill's? (Just warming up for the inevitable EXPO smackdown!) :biggrin:
 
the nsxnut said:
Isn't it a rule that the more your tires smoke, the lower your time will be? :rolleyes:


WOW!! I must have been getting a REALLY low time when I did this.... :D


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YUMNA2 said:
wow! i never knew that this would start a zaino/zymol kind of debate. but, does anyone also think that they are both equally fast around the same corner? i still havent seen a video with a grip racer racing a drifter with the same car. anyone have a video?

Pick up any best motoring DVD. Drift King always kills his competition in his little hachi roku drifting down the mountiain. I love that part of the video. the Touge Showdown.
 
ryans said:
Pick up any best motoring DVD. Drift King always kills his competition in his little hachi roku drifting down the mountiain. I love that part of the videol. the Touge Showdown.


Actually, he said in one of the videos where he did a bunch of drifting that while the drifting looked cool for show, drifting was NOT the fastest way around the track.
 
Meeyatch1 said:
Actually, he said in one of the videos where he did a bunch of drifting that while the drifting looked cool for show, drifting was NOT the fastest way around the track.

Yes I know. We're all playing around. Andrie likes to give me smack because I like drifting. In one of the Best Motoring Drift King drifts a car around the whole track and times it. Then he goes and grips the track. The result was huge difference in gripping. altough he was going very fast drifting, it was just a lot slower. Looks awesome though :wink:
 
Ryan is a good friend of mine. I just like to give him shit, cause it bugs him when I make fun of drifting. Same thing with drag racing. I gave him shit about that too. BTW, do you know why they call it drag racing? Cause it is such a drag to do it :D

In reality, I respect the sport, just not my cup of tea. However, if I get a ride, I might give it a shot and see my name in a cover of magazine. Stunna!!! ;)
 
ryans said:
Yes I know. We're all playing around. Andrie likes to give me smack because I like drifting. In one of the Best Motoring Drift King drifts a car around the whole track and times it. Then he goes and grips the track. The result was huge difference in gripping. altough he was going very fast drifting, it was just a lot slower. Looks awesome though :wink:


WHOOPS!! Sorry...my mistake. :redface:

Watching those videos is so great...that guy knows how to make a car dance. :smile:
 
The funniest part of this thread is how several of the members here take things so literally that they can't see that a seasoned club racer like Andrie H. is joking & being sarcastic, LOL. He's basically making fun of all the PS2 wiggers out there who think they know something about driving/vehicle dymanics (no disrespect to people whom enjoy the art of drifting) ...funny stuff "fo' shizzle my nizzle" :biggrin:
 
NSXTASY_MD said:
The funniest part of this thread is how several of the members here take things so literally that they can't see that a seasoned club racer like Andrie H. is joking & being sarcastic, LOL. He's basically making fun of all the PS2 wiggers out there who think they know something about driving/vehicle dymanics (no disrespect to people whom enjoy the art of drifting) ...funny stuff "fo' shizzle my nizzle" :biggrin:


Drifting is fun, yo!! ;) :tongue: :biggrin: :cool:
 
galvatron said:
rally cars are always drifting, even on tarmac. surely, drifting must be faster in some cases.

Define drifting. What the drifiting crowd mean by drifting is large slip angle, which is always slower, in almost all condition (except loose/gravel tight corner).

In reality, even road racing is drifting the whole time. If you don't do 4 wheel drift in a corner, you are not going fast enough. How big is the slip angle? Usually the maximum cornering speed is achieved with about 10 degree slip angle.

The rally crowd drift, even in tarmac (which is substantially less than in gravel), because lots of other factors. Main factor is tight corner with small lane, and 4WD. They litterally have to throw the car into the corner, or they won't make the corner. Ever try driving an SUV with the 4WD engange and not to compare what kind of turn radius you achieve between the two?
 
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galvatron said:
rally cars are always drifting, even on tarmac. surely, drifting must be faster in some cases.

also, a difference in rally is that they don't go around the track many laps... they go into the turns faster and adjust accordingly afterwards, also the varying surface irregularities throughout each turn.
 
CKS Papa said:
I like this line the best !


I had a driving instructor at the M5 Driving Experience drive like that!! He took us on some hot laps where he drifted the WHOLE TIME!! I spent the entire lap switching side windows to look out of as we lapped the course!! Amazing... :eek:
 
NSX-Racer said:
Just to illustrate what I mean with too much sway: This was my nearly stock car (with Dali street sway bars and Yoko slicks) in the Hockenheim Sachs curve - looks awful doesn't it?

Yeah, it would have looked a lot better if you were drifting it through the corner. Boy did you mess that one up! :biggrin:

Here's proof. :eek: http://www.spaff.orsm.net/vids/lancer250.wmv
 
Andrie Hartanto said:
How big is the slip angle? Usually the maximum cornering speed is achieved with about 10 degree slip angle.
Are you sure about that? 10 degrees seems a little too much for me. I heard that race slicks work best at about 10% slip rate - but that wouldn't lead to 10 degrees drift angle, especialy not with a four wheel drift that you are suggesting for the maximum corner speed.
 
I think you two are talking about the same thing,and 10% is the accepted standard slip angle.
 
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